Keep getting coasters

[fireguy15]

I was a long time user of DVD Decrypter on my old Dell System. When it decided to take a dive I copied all of my software, DVD Decrpter, DVD shrink onto the new system. Now when I try to run things I get coasters. I have verified that all settings are identical between the 2 systems but I keep getting DVDs that will auto run on my computer and some of my older DVD players, but the new ones keep coming up with Unable to Read Disc.

 

What settings could I have wrong. The DVD+R Media is the same but I get different results from each computer. The DVD's off the old one works, the DVDs off the new one doesn't.

[JasonFriday13]

Please post a log of the one that failed.

 

[edit] Sorry, we don't support DVD Dec because of legal reasons. We usually only support ImgBurn in these forums.[/edit]

Edited November 20, 2006 by JasonFriday13

[fireguy15]

I understand about DVD Dec. Thank you for your help with this issue with ImgBurn. Media is way to expensive to keep making coasters.

 

I 15:45:12 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started!

I 15:45:12 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 15:45:12 Initialising SPTI...

I 15:45:12 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 15:45:12 Found 1 DVD?RW!

I 15:50:00 Operation Started!

I 15:50:00 Source File: C:\CORE_FF.ISO.ISO

I 15:50:00 Source File Sectors: 2,285,873 (MODE1/2048)

I 15:50:00 Source File Size: 4,681,467,904 bytes

I 15:50:00 Source File Volume Identifier: CORE_FF

I 15:50:00 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 15:50:00 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 15:50:00 Destination Device: [1:0:0] SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A UDS1 (D:) (ATA)

I 15:50:00 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-R03-04) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x)

I 15:50:00 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104

I 15:50:00 Write Mode: DVD

I 15:50:00 Write Type: DAO

I 15:50:00 Write Speed: 8x

I 15:50:00 Link Size: Auto

I 15:50:00 Test Mode: No

I 15:50:00 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 15:50:01 Filling Buffer...

I 15:50:02 Writing LeadIn...

I 15:50:53 Writing Image...

I 16:01:57 Synchronising Cache...

I 16:01:58 Closing Track...

I 16:02:06 Finalising Disc...

I 16:02:43 Image MD5: 351e6a3332b4b06edd8290cc1db96881

I 16:02:43 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:12:42

I 16:02:43 Average Write Rate: 6,885 KB/s (5.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,316 KB/s (8.2x)

I 16:02:43 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 16:02:48 Waiting for device to become ready...

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Please let it actually finish the verify - if you're using a laptop drive (which I assume you are), don't forget to put the drive tray back in once ImgBurn has ejected it!

 

You should also update to the UDS2 firmware.

 

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2113

 

When you've done that, if it's still not working, do yourself a favour and buy some decent Verbatim (MCC dye) or Taiyo Yuden discs. I'm not a big fan of the RICOHJPN-R03-04 ones.

[fireguy15]

I updated the firmware and made sure to verify. However, I have the same issue.

 

I understand your recomendation in regards to quality media, however how can the same media work fine on all players when it comes out of my old system?

 

Is there a difference in the burning format based on the DVD+RW in the computer?

 

I am a completly newbie to all of this. When things don't quite work I get a little lost. Thank you for all your help.

 

Here is the log of the last attempt:

I 16:45:15 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started!

I 16:45:15 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 16:45:16 Initialising SPTI...

I 16:45:16 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 16:45:16 Found 1 DVD?RW!

I 16:45:40 Operation Started!

I 16:45:40 Source File: C:\CORE_FF.ISO.ISO

I 16:45:40 Source File Sectors: 2,285,873 (MODE1/2048)

I 16:45:40 Source File Size: 4,681,467,904 bytes

I 16:45:40 Source File Volume Identifier: CORE_FF

I 16:45:40 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 16:45:40 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 16:45:40 Destination Device: [1:0:0] SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A UDS2 (D:) (ATA)

I 16:45:40 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: CMC MAG-R01-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 16:45:40 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104

I 16:45:40 Write Mode: DVD

I 16:45:40 Write Type: DAO

I 16:45:40 Write Speed: 2.4x

I 16:45:40 Link Size: Auto

I 16:45:40 Test Mode: No

I 16:45:40 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 16:45:41 Filling Buffer...

I 16:45:42 Writing LeadIn...

I 16:46:08 Writing Image...

I 17:08:58 Synchronising Cache...

I 17:08:59 Closing Track...

I 17:09:23 Finalising Disc...

I 17:09:52 Image MD5: 351e6a3332b4b06edd8290cc1db96881

I 17:09:52 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:24:11

I 17:09:52 Average Write Rate: 3,339 KB/s (2.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,465 KB/s (2.5x)

I 17:09:52 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 17:09:56 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 17:10:12 Device Ready!

I 17:10:12 Operation Started!

I 17:10:12 Source Device: [1:0:0] SONY DVD+-RW DW-Q58A UDS2 (D:) (ATA)

I 17:10:12 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD+R) (Disc ID: CMC MAG-R01-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 17:10:12 Image File: C:\CORE_FF.ISO.ISO

I 17:10:12 Image File Sectors: 2,285,873 (MODE1/2048)

I 17:10:12 Image File Size: 4,681,467,904 bytes

I 17:10:12 Image File Volume Identifier: CORE_FF

I 17:10:12 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 17:10:12 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 17:10:12 Verifying Sectors...

I 17:29:41 Device MD5: 351e6a3332b4b06edd8290cc1db96881

I 17:29:41 Device (Padded) MD5: 8c5fe94aaa8a0539d8db3126209fce5c

I 17:29:41 Image MD5: 351e6a3332b4b06edd8290cc1db96881

I 17:29:42 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:29

I 17:29:42 Average Verify Rate: 3,910 KB/s (2.8x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5,697 KB/s (4.1x)

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Every drive burns differently, even those of the same make / model.

 

The higher quality the burn, the greater the chance of players being able to read it.

 

As you can see from the verify, the drive itself thinks the disc is ok - it read it back fine.

 

What you can see there though is that it's not booktyping to DVDROM. You might like to do a little research into bitsetting / booktype stuff - although I can't be sure your new laptop drive even supports it.

 

When you change a DVD+R (via bitsetting) to make it look like a DVDROM, it becomes more 'compatible' with other drives. This is generally only a problem with older machines though, once made before DVD+R became mainstream.

 

btw, CMC discs are awful too! (sorry!)

[lfcrule1972]

They are probably worse ! As LUK! said above MCC dye Verbatims or Taiyo Yudens would be the way to go.....

[fireguy15]

OK,

 

I keep looking all over the place to find out if this drive will support bitsetting/booktyping, do you have any suggestions on how to find out?

 

Second, if I find out it does, what settings do I change, if any?

[lfcrule1972]

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/stor...ro.htm#features

 

Not the most helpful of sites but it doesn't mention bitsetting as a feature.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I think it does support it.

 

When in Write mode within ImgBurn, click on the little 'Book' icon down the bottom right. Then switch to the LiteOn tab and try the DVD+R options, setting it to use DVDROM as the new setting.

 

If it works and you get a 'Successful' message, the next DVD+R disc you burn should come out with its booktype set to DVDROM.

[fireguy15]

That was it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I can't thank you guys enough for all of your help.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Be warned, unless the drive supports the 'DVD+R - EEPROM' option, that bitsetting setting will reset itself back to DVD+R every time you reboot the PC or the drive loses power.