polopony Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 post the log from the burn it has a lot more info we can use . IMGburn saves them automatically just open IB ,Help--->IMGburn Logs . BTW dont post them all just the last one that failed a couple of things, that firmware is the original you should check for a newer one and also when writing with an external USB drive dont try to burn faster that 8X and of course to good media Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden
cranger Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 I 09:19:45 Source File Implementation Identifier: Spruce Technologies I 09:19:45 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1,02) I 09:19:45 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-5169D 1.00 (G:) (USB) I 09:19:45 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-003-00) (Speeds: 4x; 8x) I 09:19:45 Destination Media Sectors: 2 295 104 I 09:19:45 Write Mode: DVD I 09:19:45 Write Type: DAO I 09:19:45 Write Speed: MAX I 09:19:45 Link Size: Auto I 09:19:45 Test Mode: No I 09:19:45 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 09:19:46 Filling Buffer... I 09:19:46 Writing LeadIn... I 09:20:21 Writing Image... W 10:53:37 Failed to Write Sectors 2241504 - 2241535 - Unknown (Vendor Unique) (0x80, 0x04) W 10:53:37 Retrying (1 of 20)... W 10:53:37 Retry Failed - No Seek Complete W 10:53:37 Retrying (2 of 20)... W 10:53:37 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:37 Retrying (3 of 20)... W 10:53:37 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:37 Retrying (4 of 20)... W 10:53:37 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:37 Retrying (5 of 20)... W 10:53:37 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:37 Retrying (6 of 20)... W 10:53:37 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:37 Retrying (7 of 20)... W 10:53:37 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:37 Retrying (8 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (9 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (10 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (11 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (12 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (13 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (14 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (15 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (16 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (17 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (18 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (19 of 20)... W 10:53:38 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 10:53:38 Retrying (20 of 20)... W 10:53:39 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 11:54:51 Retrying (21)... W 11:54:51 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 11:54:52 Retrying (22)... W 11:54:52 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 11:54:53 Retrying (23)... W 11:54:53 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write E 11:54:56 Failed to Write Sectors 2241504 - 2241535 - Unknown (Vendor Unique) (0x80, 0x04) I 11:54:57 Synchronising Cache... I 11:54:58 Closing Track... I 11:55:00 Finalising Disc... E 11:55:07 Failed to Write Image! E 11:55:19 Operation Failed! - Duration: 02:35:21
polopony Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 was editing my post as you posted ,thats great media but can still be a bad disc and also look for new firmware thats the original . Right click the burner in IB and follow the last line "Firmware Update "
dontasciime Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 (edited) there appears to be no firmware for that external drive, its pretty new, only update i could find was for the one touch facilty have you got any other discs you could try ? Edited January 17, 2007 by dontasciime
cranger Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 i have tried to burn it 2 times now and it stops att 97% both times.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 All you can do is try some other discs. Maybe you'll have more luck with the -R MCC dye Verbatims or some Taiyo Yudens.
mammal Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 All you can do is try some other discs. Maybe you'll have more luck with the -R MCC dye Verbatims or some Taiyo Yudens. Hard to imagine these errors just being media related. I just started having the same error, specifically burning an ISO file with MDS. I usually don't have trouble with VIDEO_TS folders. My next attempt (coaster) will be with the ISO extracted to VIDEO folder. I wish someone here could explain the errors in detail, here's my log: I 19:19:54 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started! I 19:19:54 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 19:19:54 Initialising SPTI... I 19:19:54 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:19:54 Found 1 DVD?RW! I 19:20:05 Operation Started! I 19:20:05 Source File: D:\DVD temp\The Illusionist\The.Illusionist.2006.NTSC.DVD9 (CINEMATIK EXCLUSIVE)\THE_ILLUSIONIST_2006_NTSC_DVD9_CINEMATIK.MDS I 19:20:05 Source File Sectors: 3,865,777 (MODE1/2048) I 19:20:05 Source File Size: 7,917,111,296 bytes I 19:20:05 Source File Volume Identifier: THEILLUSIONIST_D2 I 19:20:05 Source File Implementation Identifier: MEI I 19:20:05 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 19:20:05 Destination Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D 1.23 (E:) (ATA) I 19:20:05 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2.4x) I 19:20:05 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 19:20:05 Write Mode: DVD I 19:20:05 Write Type: DAO I 19:20:05 Write Speed: MAX I 19:20:05 Link Size: Auto I 19:20:05 Test Mode: No I 19:20:05 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:20:05 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,935,120 I 19:20:05 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc I 19:20:31 Filling Buffer... I 19:20:31 Writing LeadIn... I 19:20:33 Writing Image... I 19:20:33 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1935119) I 19:40:45 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1935120 - 3865776) W 19:59:11 Failed to Write Sectors 3693008 - 3693039 - Write Error W 19:59:11 Retrying (1 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (2 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (3 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (4 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (5 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (6 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (7 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (8 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (9 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (10 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (11 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (12 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (13 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (14 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (15 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (16 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (17 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (18 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (19 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:16 Retrying (20 of 20)... W 19:59:16 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:25 Retrying (21)... W 19:59:25 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:26 Retrying (22)... W 19:59:26 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:28 Retrying (23)... W 19:59:28 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:36 Retrying (24)... W 19:59:36 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write W 19:59:37 Retrying (25)... W 19:59:37 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write E 19:59:38 Failed to Write Sectors 3693008 - 3693039 - Write Error I 19:59:38 Synchronising Cache... I 19:59:39 Closing Track... I 19:59:43 Finalising Disc... E 19:59:53 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session E 19:59:53 Failed to Write Image! E 19:59:53 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:39:47 I 19:59:53 Average Write Rate: 3,151 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,360 KB/s (2.4x) I 20:00:19 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:00:19 Closing Down... I 20:00:19 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:00:19 ImgBurn closed! ; ;
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Please don't hijack other peoples threads, it's rude. Update your firmware, ditch the Ritek discs and buy Verbatims instead.
mammal Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Please don't hijack other peoples threads, it's rude. Update your firmware, ditch the Ritek discs and buy Verbatims instead. sorry, but it seems rather redundant to start a new thread when I am having the exact same problem, regardless of hardware or media. By the way, I don't believe it is firmware or the media. I extracted the VIDEO_TS folder from the ISO and burned it that way, no errors (I would recommend this to others having issues). It seems to me that IMG burn does not work well with image files (ISO at least. god forbid I blame software bugs but it's true in my case!)
dontasciime Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 It seems to me that IMG burn does not work well with image files (ISO at least. god forbid I blame software bugs but it's true in my case!) Utter BULLSHIT. So are your disc's. Your expertise is needed elsewhere, first left at loserville.
mammal Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 It seems to me that IMG burn does not work well with image files (ISO at least. god forbid I blame software bugs but it's true in my case!) Utter BULLSHIT. So are your disc's. Your expertise is needed elsewhere, first left at loserville. Yeah, and the explanations (or lack thereof) of errors here are utter bullshit! The usual: "Update your firmware, try Verbatim media", over and over again. Do you guys work for Verbatim or something? Explain my extracting the VIDEO_TS folder from the ISO image and then burning without errors; no updated firmware, same Memorex media. Oh I know, I just happened upon a good disc amongst all the shitty ones in the spindle, right? p.s.--dontasciime, do you always personally attack people on tech forums? you feel like more of a man by doing so?
dontasciime Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 (edited) Oh I know, I just happened upon a good disc amongst all the shitty ones in the spindle, right? Your learning fast, well done Nope I don't attack anyone usually, Only people who blame something that is IMO blameless and seem to know the answer to the question they have asked and reject the correct answer in favor of their own answer. And no i do not feel more of a man, i prefer to feel women, you see i am a lesbian. Edited January 17, 2007 by dontasciime
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Considering that the image burning code is the core of the program and the file burning code simply wraps around it, your theory just flew right out the window. This might sound a bit arrogant but I've been doing this long enough now to know what's a problem with the software and what isn't. Once the command has been sent to the drive, it has control over the success / failure of that command. Either it manages to write the data to the disc or it doesn't - the software doesn't even come into it. ImgBurn simply reports back any error the drive returns... and this is what your drive returned: W 19:59:11 Failed to Write Sectors 3693008 - 3693039 - Write Error 'Write Error' might look like it's come from ImgBurn but that's really just an 'English' representation of a couple of numbers the drive returns in something known as 'Sense Area' data (ASC and ASCQ). You can read the MMC specs if you'd like to know more - http://www.t10.org Good burns are achieved by having a decent combination of hardware, firmware and media. i.e. if any 1 of those is out of sync with the other 2, you'll get errors - and that's what you're experiencing. It's very rare to get an error when you use a good drive (which the pioneer is), up-to-date firmware (1.23 isn't up-to-date) and decent media (which verbatim is). No, none of us work for Verbatim. The reason we recommend it is because it works! If I told everyone to use Ritek DL discs I'd have a lot of angry users - the stuff is just shite compared to Verbatim DL media! That's it, end of story.
polopony Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 the newest firmware for your PIO is 1.29 updating your firmware is always an excellent starting point when trying to resolve problems so is using top notch media ,here we've seen enough problems with Ritek and Memorex branded media to fill a book .If you want to look at the scans go to that forum the only discs (dual layer ) that show consistency are the Verbs testing has proved that and all others are hit and miss you may get however many to write fine and an equal number to fail with other media its just the way it is. Since I began using IMGburn I haven't had a coaster and I use Verbatim both + and - and Taiyo Yuden +R with an NEC 3500 and burn everything at 6X its what works for me and has become automatic with everything verifying 100% . if you can identify a bug in the software then Lightning will be interested to know what it is and you can be sure it will be fixed pronto 1 other thing what program did you create the ISO with
mammal Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 the newest firmware for your PIO is 1.29 updating your firmware is always an excellent starting point when trying to resolve problems so is using top notch media ,here we've seen enough problems with Ritek and Memorex branded media to fill a book .If you want to look at the scans go to that forum the only discs (dual layer ) that show consistency are the Verbs testing has proved that and all others are hit and miss you may get however many to write fine and an equal number to fail with other media its just the way it is. Since I began using IMGburn I haven't had a coaster and I use Verbatim both + and - and Taiyo Yuden +R with an NEC 3500 and burn everything at 6X its what works for me and has become automatic with everything verifying 100% . if you can identify a bug in the software then Lightning will be interested to know what it is and you can be sure it will be fixed pronto 1 other thing what program did you create the ISO with I downloaded the ISO, doh! I don't mean to be an asshole, it's just odd that extracting the VIDEO_TS folder from the ISO seemed to solve the problem for me, unless of course they were bad DVDs before, 3rd ones a charm perhaps. I haven't had any problems with Memorex burning from VIDEO_TS folders, only with burning ISOs, so I will just stick to cheap media that way (my DVD player reads them flawlessly). I'll consider Verbatim in the future for image burns when the price goes down. These companies are comparable to pharmaceutical companies with the highway robbery they get away with!
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 I bet if you'd burnt that same disc using the ISO it would have worked. The source has NOTHING to do with it - or at least not in ImgBurn it doesn't. With shite media you just have less chance of it working, that doesn't mean it won't ever work. Lets say you have a 30% chance of success with Ritek and 30% chance of failure with Verbatim. I know which one I'd rather go for. (Those numbers are of course made up though, it's more like 50/50 for Ritek and 98/2 for Verbatim)
cornholio7 Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 just to add, both these discs are burnt in a pioneer 111 with the latest firmware - compare the quality rating
mammal Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 just to add, both these discs are burnt in a pioneer 111 with the latest firmware - compare the quality rating so, even the quality of a successful burn is compromised by inferior media? surely not, seems that would only depend on the source and rip, then again I cannot even read those charts. Help me out here, so you can actually see visual difference in a burn to a Verbatim DVD?
dontasciime Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 (edited) simplified green is Good ...Red Orange Yellow are bad, quick look at the quality score should also convince you verb 95.77% Excellent media/ drive/firmware combination crap media ritek 75.64% everything else the lower the better Edited January 17, 2007 by dontasciime
cornholio7 Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 bear in mind that these discs were burned in discovery mode, ie. there are only zeros burned to the disc, so the exact same data was written to disc, every byte is used , so the rip or source are of no consequence here, purely how good the media scans for errors, the less errors , the better the score, the more chance of a successful burn. what is important is media above all, firmware and burning speed. its your choice , but in all the verbatim dual layer discs i have done with imgburn i have no coasters, i buy my own verbatim discs because i dont like throwing good money away on inferior products. to help you understand the scans look here http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=2168
mammal Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 bear in mind that these discs were burned in discovery mode, ie. there are only zeros burned to the disc, so the exact same data was written to disc, every byte is used , so the rip or source are of no consequence here, purely how good the media scans for errors, the less errors , the better the score, the more chance of a successful burn.what is important is media above all, firmware and burning speed. its your choice , but in all the verbatim dual layer discs i have done with imgburn i have no coasters, i buy my own verbatim discs because i dont like throwing good money away on inferior products. to help you understand the scans look here http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=2168 like I said before I have only had coasters by burning image files with Memorex/Ritek media, burning VOB files fine, no errors. The final product though should not look any different than a Verbatim DVD burn, correct?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 Well yeah clearly the data on the disc is the same so when you view the content, you'll get the same picture quality etc. That's NOT what we're talking about here though. We're talking about the quality of the burn - i.e. how easy it is for the drive to physically write to the discs and how easy it is for the drive (and any others) to read back from it. It's like when you cook something, you could use mega expensive ingredients or you could use the cheapest nastiest crap you could find. You'd end up with the same meal, just one would taste fantastic and the other could be used to unblock your drains. As I've said before, your talk of burning Vobs Vs burning Images is Null and Void. The exact same commands are sent to the drive no matter what you're burning.
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