kirk1701™ Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 OK, seen this on a movie the other night and posted it on another forum also, it turned into a great debate for days The question is: If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a noise?
jack Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Ask the squirrel's, they know everything that goes on in the forest.
kirk1701™ Posted January 27, 2007 Author Posted January 27, 2007 Ask the squirrel's, they know everything that goes on in the forest. What if there are no squirrels around? If no one is around to hear it then it didn't make any noise did it
kevdriver Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Yes. Just because theres no receivers there ( our human Ear ) The tranmitter of the noise is still there ( the tree hitting the ground ) so I would say yes! eg: your car produces exhaust in the summer, just because its too warm to produce the visible vapors, doesn't mean there're not there, there are there winter and summer, visible or not. Did that make any sense at all.........
kirk1701™ Posted January 27, 2007 Author Posted January 27, 2007 Yes. Just because theres no receivers there ( our human Ear ) The tranmitter of the noise is still there ( the tree hitting the ground ) so I would say yes! eg: your car produces exhaust in the summer, just because its too warm to produce the visible vapors, doesn't mean there're not there, there are there winter and summer, visible or not. Did that make any sense at all......... I agree with the vapors kev, you can smell it winter or summer. But if no one hears the sound of the tree then how would anyone know for sure that sound waves are made? Understand this is just for fun.
polopony Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 cut down a million trees record the noise waves come to the conclusion that trees do make noise when knocked down you can then extrapolate and conclude that the tree that fell while no one was around to hear it did in fact make noise
screi Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 The fact that you would hear the sound if you were there.. should answer the question..if there is a circumstance where a tree fell near by and did NOT produce a sound you could hear would suggest another possibility... wayne btw..there are much more important questions that need answers.....
polopony Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 exactly, like what the hell did I do with my car keys
spinningwheel Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 btw..there are much more important questions that need answers..... Like...How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
jack Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Ask the squirrel's, they know everything that goes on in the forest. What if there are no squirrels around? You've never been to the forest have you? Edited January 28, 2007 by jack
dontasciime Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Ask the squirrel's, they know everything that goes on in the forest Don't ask them they're nuts.
kirk1701™ Posted January 28, 2007 Author Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Ask the squirrel's, they know everything that goes on in the forest. What if there are no squirrels around? You've never been to the forest have you? Yep, I'm the crazy redneck who shot all the squirrels so there are none to ask Everyone is missing the point, if you record the sound of the tree falling that was heard because you or someone was there to hear it and of course it made a noise. If no one seen the tree fall, who heard the noise to know it made a sound Google is your friend I'm not the one who thought this up as I said in the first post, and like I said it was just for fun. http://www.testingcraft.com/bug-in-forest.pdf Google is full of books on this. This one really puts it to a respective which is what I was getting at. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=492818 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%...make+a+noise%29 Enough said before someone nominates the tree for president Edited January 28, 2007 by kirk1701
cornholio7 Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 i'm surprised this hasn't gone off topic yet
dontasciime Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 i'm surprised this hasn't gone off topic yet
kirk1701™ Posted January 28, 2007 Author Posted January 28, 2007 i'm surprised this hasn't gone off topic yet I third that
lfcrule1972 Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 Funny...... Is posting a pic of a Mars bar taking it off topic ?
dontasciime Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 I loved topics. What has a hazelnut in every bite. Squirrel Shit
kirk1701™ Posted January 29, 2007 Author Posted January 29, 2007 I loved topics. What has a hazelnut in every bite. Squirrel Shit what Squirrel? Remember this crazy red neck shot them all, and yes we ate them too.
Pain_Man Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 (edited) the old Aristotlean question. Which basically means, are events independent or do they happen only because they are being observed? Or maybe it was the Stagyrite (showing off a bit, Aristotle was born on the island of Stagyros) verion of "What is the sound of 1 hand clapping?" A sort of logical Rohrshach test. Minter's a got a great understanding of Relativity, Schrodinger's Cat, Quantum Physics, Heisenberg, etc. He can provide us with the formal theoretical grounding here. I've always thought Spenser's (the fictional detective) question was better: "If a TV's left on in a room by itself, does it make any noise?" OK, seen this on a movie the other night and posted it on another forum also, it turned into a great debate for days The question is: If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a noise? Edited January 29, 2007 by Pain_Man
lfcrule1972 Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 Jack - spinner cut down the tree's, he confessed to it in his earlier post. PM - How about does a smell if you do it and then immediately leave it in an empty room ??
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