Dark Shogun Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I just downloaded ImgBurn and installed it and when I check out the Device Capabilites it has DVD Rom completely greyed out. Does that mean I can't do bitsetting? I when to the Change Book Type section and it give me 8 choices for a OEM but I don't know which one mines is if any. Please help Dark Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grain Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I'm pretty sure thats an Optiarc 7170. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalves Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 DVD-ROM, HD DVD-ROM and BD-ROM are always greyed out in the Write section of the 'Device Capabilities' window because such discs, as their name says (Read-Only Memory), can only be made by way of pressing, usually in large scale, i.e., commercial discs. Booktyping/bitsetting is just a trick used to make older/incompatible devices think that the media is a pressed DVD-ROM, and it can only be done on the DVD+R(W) SL/DL format. Also, there's no sure way to detect if a device allows booktyping or not, besides burning a DVD+R(W) and verifying after. Different manufacturers use different methods for enabling booktyping: some of them enable booktyping by default, others don't even offer this option. The brand/model of your drive is shown in the first line of the information section of ImgBurn, on the right side of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shogun Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 It said my dvd burner is SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A but when I got to the change book type section it has these options: Nu Tech Plextor RICOH Samsung BenQ LG LITE-ON NEC I am not sure which mines would go under. I did a little searching about Optiarc 7170 and that is Sony NEC so I tried the NEC one and it said Failed Parameter Value Invalid. Dark Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 theres no support for Optiarc at this time ,companies are being bought out new ones formed like Optiarc (Sony/NEC ) before that Sony drives were made by Lite On ,Sony just rebadged them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I thought it was same as 7173a, anyways which firmware do you have in it ? Edit There is G: and Q version so Grain is right it will be the 7170 version you may be able to use Liggy&Dee's firmware to bit set DVD+R If your drive is anything like my Optiarc 7173a it will book type Dual layer + to DVD-Rom but for single layer + it will not which is why I flashed mine with a modified firmware to be able to book type DVD-5 > DVD-ROM There seems to be a firmware on their page which they have modded If I remember right as well Flash in safe mode and set drive to Pio Mode 4 b4 flashing [edit safe mode should def be used [pio mode is not absolutely needed but might be advisable] I just used Safe mode from memory. http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/en/Optiarc-AD-7170A/ If it were my drive i would choose this one http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/disclaimer/en/7170a/1s2_orig.zip.html EDIT DO NOT USE AS THE INFO AND FILES ABOVE ARE FOR Sony AW-G170 AND NOT Sony AW-Q170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalves Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 According to Liggy and Dee, it seems that the Sony AW-Q170A is an Optiarc AD-5170A, and that the Sony AW-G170A is an Optiarc AD-7170A. Remember that cross-flashing is dangerous, so do it at your own risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontasciime Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Your right as I was looking for AW G170 firmware, the posters drive is Q version. So do not use that file I posted link to. If you had the G version you could Sony AW-G170A (Optiarc AD-7170A) and Sony AW-G173A (Optiarc AD-7173A) Sony AW-Q170A (Optiarc AD-5170A) and Sony AW-Q173A (Optiarc AD-5173A) Either way I would not be buying another Optiarc version or even worse the Sony version of this drive again. My Optiarc 7173a in it's favour does work well at 18x in Usb2 Mode Maybe get a Pioneer 112 If your in the market to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shogun Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 I have not had this burner for a month yet I don't think so getting a new one wouldn't be much of an option. I also have a Lite On sohw 1693sx which I have at my other residence but since I got this one I have not used the other one anymore. I don't think the Lite On can go more then 8X. Dark Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 burning at 8x gives excellent results, above 12x the quality of the burns drop off ,all this is supported by the scans in Drives and Media Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Either way I would not be buying another Optiarc version or even worse the Sony version of this drive again. Who makes the Optiarc version as Sony outsourced their DVD drives to LG a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopony Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Either way I would not be buying another Optiarc version or even worse the Sony version of this drive again. Who makes the Optiarc version as Sony outsourced their DVD drives to LG a couple of years ago. Optiarc is a joint venture between Sony and NEC and Sony outsourced to Lite On a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Crap. I meant Lite-On. Not enough beer, methinks. EDIT: Or did I mean LG? Too much beer, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shogun Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 So I should try my Lite On burner? Dark Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 (edited) if bitsetting dvd+r's(single layer) is important to you then just flash with liggy's nec/optiarc 5170A firmware do it in safe mode so dma will be disabled otherwise I would at least upgrade to the newest sony firmware http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2370 since it's based on nec's stock 5170A there will be no bitsetting support for dvd+r dual layer dvd+r should auto bitsett with all firmwares Edited April 22, 2007 by chewy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shogun Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Besides improperly restarting my computer I don't remember how to get to safe mode. Also how do you flash? Dark Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 download and extract the firmware, make sure your desktop is clean enough to find it in safe mode make a new folder and but the files in there and download binflash also pressing F8 at bootup gets you into safe mode directions are included, take your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shogun Posted July 21, 2007 Author Share Posted July 21, 2007 Any new external drives that you know of that will allow for bitsetting without firmware updates and such? Dark Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCOENG Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 What is wrong with updating firmware to allow bitsetting or otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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