ImgBurn for DL Vs. GPME + IFOedit

[dax702]

I'm in the middle of a discussion on the Adobe Encore DVD forum about what should be used to submit an acceptable Master to a replication house. One of the more respected members of that forum says he would never in a million years submit a DL DVD even if they accept them. He says that one should use a $400 program called Gear Pro Mastering Edition to create two single layer DDP DVDs and IFOedit in this long drawn out process to create the layer break in the right spot.

 

I just wrote him a reply stating that ImgBurn has a feature where I can verify bit for bit that my ISO file matches my burned DVD.

 

In addition, I posted the link to the guide about creating a double layer ISO, or double layer DVD with ImgBurn's built in layer break calculator.

 

Here is his post about using Gear Pro and IFOedit to create these DDP discs (it's so long)

 

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bbf1866

 

Wanting to get your input on if ImgBurn can handle all this and I can feel confident after creating a double layer disc to submit for replication and/or create these DDP DVDs (one layer on each DVD)

 

Thanks for creating such a great program!

Mike

[Shamus_McFartfinger]

Hello and welcome.

 

I fell asleep after reading the first paragraph of that seemingly endless diatribe. Right after he said "Another very good reason for +R DL discs to be NFG is that they are NOT DVD-Video format, and as such tend to expect the layers 0 and 1 to be of equal size." The fact that layer 0 (the top layer) *MUST* contain more information than layer 1 (the lower layer) in order to be playable in a standard DVD player seems to have been overlooked by our knowledgeable friend. I honestly don't understand the need to go through all the outlined steps just to create a DVD. ImgBurn will happily preserve the layerbreak from the original or adjust it as you wish.

[dax702]

Hello and welcome.

I fell asleep after reading the first paragraph of that seemingly endless diatribe. Right after he said "Another very good reason for +R DL discs to be NFG is that they are NOT DVD-Video format, and as such tend to expect the layers 0 and 1 to be of equal size." The fact that layer 0 (the top layer) *MUST* contain more information than layer 1 (the lower layer) in order to be playable in a standard DVD player seems to have been overlooked by our knowledgeable friend. I honestly don't understand the need to go through all the outlined steps just to create a DVD. ImgBurn will happily preserve the layerbreak from the original or adjust it as you wish.

 

Thank you for confirming what I thought. Was I also correct in stating that I can use the Verify feature to ensure that the disc I burn is identical to the ISO that is created by my authoring software? It seems to me that if the burned disc is exactly the same as the unburned image, there should be no problems submitting it for replication.

[Shamus_McFartfinger]

ImgBurn verifies byte by byte. Whatever is on the duplicate will be verified both against the source for consistancy and the target itself for readability. Hope this helps.

[dax702]

It does, it helps a lot actually!

[blutach]

Looks like you just saved $400!

 

Regards

[dax702]

Hi all, getting closer to doing this DL project. Adobe Encore tells me that I need to have +R DL DVDs to burn the project to. Can anyone recommend the best +R DVD (brand, media code) to burn to submit for replication?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

There's only one worth using - Verbatim 2.4x DVD+R DL.

 

Media Code: MKM-001-00

[dax702]

Damn you're on top of this stuff!! Thanks! One last thing, I can't seem to find that guide on here about creating the dual layer project, can you link me to it?

[volvofl10]

guides section = HERE

 

choose wether you want to build to hard drive or build to disc

[cornholio7]

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showforum=4

[dax702]

http://supermediastore.com/verbatim-95310-...ia-20-pack.html

 

Correct?

[cornholio7]

yes

[dax702]

ok great. Just so I'm 1000% clear, I author my DVD in Encore as I would any DVD-5 project. Then in the Build Disc window, I pick the option to build the disc to folders on the hard drive. In that same window, I choose dual layer 8.54GB for the size. However, there's two radio buttons for a Layer Break setting that are Automatic and Manual.. what should I select?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

You don't choose a size, ImgBurn knows it based on the files. Leave the settings on the 'Media' tab at the default values.

 

Leave the layerbreak option in the setting on 'Automatic'.

 

In fact, you don't ever need to change away from the default settings - they're the ones that work!

 

You only change them when you 100% know what you're doing, the defaults cannot possibly do what you want to achieve and you know the exact setting you need to change in order to correct that.

[dax702]

Hello again, I'm getting towards the point where I'm going to be authoring this DVD. Something is a bit unclear to me though. In the Adobe Encore help, it says:

 

4. If you want to create a dual-sided disc, specify which side this project is for.

 

So as you can see in the screenshot I've attached, it's giving me two radio buttons Side One OR Side Two. The help file is telling me I need to create two different projects, one for each side?!? What should I do? I wonder if it's possible to author the whole project as Side One and then use ImgBurn to insert the layer break in order to make two sides?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Are you using double sided discs? (Notice that it's saying 'sided', not 'layer' - the two are very different).

 

I'd stick with 1 side as nobody uses flipper discs these days.

[dax702]

I'll be using the Verbatim discs that you recommended earlier in the thread, I bought 20 of them and have them here.. Oh I think I understand it now; I misread side to mean layer. When they say to pick side 1 or side 2 that's if the disc is double sided. What I have is single side, double layer, correct? Also, for the purposes of producing the DVD folders and files, should I pick automatic or manual layer break?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Yup, you have single sided, double layer discs.

 

I'd just go for automatic, you'll be re-doing it with ImgBurn anyway so it doesn't really matter.

[dax702]

Thanks! I'll repost to let you know how it goes in the end