Sliztzan Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) Hello and thank you for imgburn I have Anydvd installed and see your note when I open Imgburn regarding disabling it. I use Imgburn to burn image files with a mds file. I close Anydvd and then use Imgburn. I right click on the mds file and select burn with Imgburn, but when it verifies it finds several I/O errors. Even though I closed anydvd down does something still have control or should I have disabled it before closing? Odd. Because I burn with Alcohol 120% and then Imgburn verifies the image file ok. Only when I burn with Imgburn does the verify return errors. again to clarify: I burn it with Alcohol 120, then verify with Imgburn and it verify no problems. I burn it with Imgburn and verify with Imgburn and has many I/O errors with same image file as used with Alcohol 120. This has been the case with 2 image files (*.iso + *. mds) Is this because Anydvd is installed? Also, I see the mds Imp ID is Apple Computer. Could this be a Mac / PC issue with the MDS or IMG file? Edited August 24, 2007 by Sliztzan
LIGHTNING UK! Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 As with most questions / posts, you really need to include a copy of the log so we can see what's going on. There are about a million and one different errors that couple be popping up - each one for a potentially different reason.
blutach Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 AFAIK, you gotta close AnyDVD and remove it from the system tray. Right click and choose exit, or whatever. But if you have done this, your verify issues are probably due to poor media (eg IO errors are due to not being able to read a sector properly). Verify errors in sectors which are covered by the IFO files (especially VIDEO_TS.IFO) will be caused most likely by AnyDVD. Regards
linx05 Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 According to the developers of AnyDVD, they said simple disabling AnyDVD is as good as closing it down. But if you want to be extra sure, then close it.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Disabling it should be fine. The thing to remember is that I/O errors are drive/media issues. Miscompares *could* be due to 'other software' (i.e. AnyDVD) manipulating the data on the fly. 'Other software' would not introduce I/O errors.
Sliztzan Posted August 24, 2007 Author Posted August 24, 2007 Here is the log: //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 - Log ; Thursday, 23 August 2007, 16:33:14 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 15:29:38 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 15:29:38 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 15:29:38 Total Physical Memory: 1,046,252 KB - Available: 596,212 KB I 15:29:38 Initialising SPTI... I 15:29:38 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 15:29:38 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 2 DVD±RWs! I 15:34:03 Operation Started! I 15:34:03 Source File: E:\DVD\Graffiti\GRAFFITI.MDS I 15:34:03 Source File Sectors: 3,771,376 (MODE1/2048) I 15:34:03 Source File Size: 7,723,778,048 bytes I 15:34:03 Source File Volume Identifier: GRAFFITI I 15:34:03 Source File Application Identifier: DVD Studio Pro:4.0.3, DSPInterface:382, DVDAuthoring:372, DVDBase:396(Encoder: 483), Oxygene:409 I 15:34:03 Source File Implementation Identifier: Apple Computer, Inc. I 15:34:03 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 15:34:03 Destination Device: [2:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-755A 1.07 (F:) (ATA) I 15:34:03 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 15:34:03 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 15:34:03 Write Mode: DVD I 15:34:03 Write Type: DAO I 15:34:03 Write Speed: 2.4x I 15:34:03 Link Size: Auto I 15:34:03 Test Mode: No I 15:34:03 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 15:34:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,031,680 I 15:34:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc I 15:34:03 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 15:34:04 Writing LeadIn... I 15:35:03 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 3771375) I 15:35:03 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2031679) I 15:55:56 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2031680 - 3771375) I 16:13:53 Synchronising Cache... I 16:13:57 Closing Track... I 16:13:59 Finalising Disc... I 16:17:58 Image MD5: 2daf808402fc7302dda310e44143836e I 16:18:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:43:55 I 16:18:01 Average Write Rate: 3,238 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,372 KB/s (2.4x) I 16:18:01 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 16:18:48 Device Ready! I 16:18:50 Operation Started! I 16:18:50 Source Device: [2:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-755A 1.07 (F:) (ATA) I 16:18:50 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 16:18:50 Image File: E:\DVD\Graffiti\GRAFFITI.MDS I 16:18:50 Image File Sectors: 3,771,376 (MODE1/2048) I 16:18:50 Image File Size: 7,723,778,048 bytes I 16:18:50 Image File Volume Identifier: GRAFFITI I 16:18:50 Image File Application Identifier: DVD Studio Pro:4.0.3, DSPInterface:382, DVDAuthoring:372, DVDBase:396(Encoder: 483), Oxygene:409 I 16:18:50 Image File Implementation Identifier: Apple Computer, Inc. I 16:18:50 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 16:18:50 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 3771375) I 16:18:50 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2031679) W 16:32:49 Failed to Read Sector 1997312 - L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 16:32:49 Sector 1997312 maps to File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB W 16:33:02 Failed to Read Sector 1997313 - L-EC Uncorrectable Error W 16:33:02 Sector 1997313 maps to File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB E 16:33:06 Failed to Read Sector 1997314 - L-EC Uncorrectable Error E 16:33:06 Sector 1997314 maps to File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB E 16:33:06 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 16:33:06 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:14:16 I 16:33:06 Average Verify Rate: 4,666 KB/s (3.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 10,918 KB/s (7.9x) I 16:33:14 Close Request Acknowledged I 16:33:14 Closing Down... I 16:33:14 Shutting down SPTI... I 16:33:14 ImgBurn closed!
blutach Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 I 16:18:50 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) Here's your problem. A little searching would have told you to get only Verbatim 2.4X dual layer blanks (MKM-001 MID). The inferior blanks some shop assistant has sold you have errored out on the edge (where they are most likely to burp) Regards
Sliztzan Posted August 25, 2007 Author Posted August 25, 2007 I 16:18:50 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) Here's your problem. A little searching would have told you to get only Verbatim 2.4X dual layer blanks (MKM-001 MID). The inferior blanks some shop assistant has sold you have errored out on the edge (where they are most likely to burp) Regards Thanks for your reply to my problem. I was surprised to see Ritek. I really thought when I bought these Sony DL DVD at Best Buy that they would have been Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden. I have seen bad reports from other Ritek media, but since Sony had their label on this I was hoping they had chosen a good mfg. Other media I have bought from them were mfg by Taiyo Yuden. But I do realize that you never know until you get home and open the package to put one in your computer and check. I think I will just buy my DL media online now since I can choose what I want. What in the log tells you they errored on the edge?
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted August 25, 2007 Posted August 25, 2007 I think I will just buy my DL media online now since I can choose what I want. Grab some Verbatim +R/DL. Everything else is a waste of money. What in the log tells you they errored on the edge? This does.... I 15:34:03 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 W 16:32:49 Failed to Read Sector 1997312 - L-EC Uncorrectable Error DVDs are written in what's called Opposite Track Path. Your burner starts the burn at the centre of layer 0 (the top layer) and writes towards the edge before re-focusing the laser and writing layer 1 (the bottom layer) from the outside toward the centre. If you look above you can see that your media failed at sector 1,997,312 which is roughly half of the 4,173,824 sectors in total. As we know the drive writes from the centre to the outside of the disk, we know that sector 1,997,312 is about the halfway point of the burn and is near the outer edge.
Sliztzan Posted August 25, 2007 Author Posted August 25, 2007 (edited) great, thanks for the apprentice training I was curious how they were burned and that will help me in future issues. I've had never bought any DVD besides Verbatim in all these years excluding this one time when I trusted Sony. Goes to show when something works, leave it alone. Thanks everyone for your help here. I'm slowly learning all the features of Imgburn. I think its a great tool and I recommend it to my friends and acquaintances. Their replies are very positive. Thanks for a great tool, just as DVD Decrypter still is. Edited August 26, 2007 by Sliztzan
Sliztzan Posted August 26, 2007 Author Posted August 26, 2007 One last quick question for understanding the process. If ImgBurn writes the DVD with no errors then why would it not verify the same?
blutach Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 That's the whole idea of verifying. To see if the disk can be read. ImgBurn in write mode writes. It gets back an OK from the drive that it wrote. Now the final test is that it can read exactly what it thought it wrote. That's why you should always verify. Regards
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 Blu, I read that 3 times and I'm still not sure what you said. @Sliztzan: What verification does is check your disk for errors after it has been burned. Imgburn will burn your disk and then eject it before checking. Ejecting the disk forces the drive to refresh itself which makes the verification process more accurate. If the disk uses a cheap dye (like CMC or Ritek media), it will usually burn fine but fail to read back what your drive has written.
Shamus_McFartfinger Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 great, thanks for the apprentice training I was curious how they were burned and that will help me in future issues. It's done this way for speed. When you play a movie in your DVD player, the laser will read the final piece of data at the outside edge of layer 0 and then quickly change to to layer 1 and read from the outside edge towards the centre. This way there's only a split second delay as the player changes focus between layers.
Sliztzan Posted August 26, 2007 Author Posted August 26, 2007 ok thank you just went to best buy online. they have their verbatim 20 pack 8x dvd+r dual layer dvd on sale for 29.99 best deal i've seen around. about 1.50 per dvd. just wanted to pass it on to you guys.
Movie Junkie Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 ok thank you just went to best buy online. they have their verbatim 20 pack 8x dvd+r dual layer dvd on sale for 29.99 best deal i've seen around. about 1.50 per dvd. just wanted to pass it on to you guys. That's a good price for them but if you go here you will find them for $27.99. I've purchased from Micro Center several times and I've never had a problem.
Sliztzan Posted August 28, 2007 Author Posted August 28, 2007 thanks I bookmarked it. Luckily I have a best buy close to me. I order online for in store pickup to save on shipping. no shipping fees is a good thing
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