The Latest DVD Writers' True Speeds

[polopony]

the 16x thing is not a sustained read speed ,in lab tests they hit 16x for a split second or less and because they did they feel justified at calling it a 16x drive basically they're FOS

[kirk1701™]

next time you post bring a shrubbery ,not to big

 

 

I would much rather cut down the mightiest tree in the forest...with a Herring!!

The term forest refers to all the objects that are managed by an Active Directory

database. A forest can contain a single domain, domain trees, or even multiple

domains. The ability to have multiple domains within a forest does away with the

need to treat each domain as a separate unit of security.

 

A tree, or domain tree, is a domain plus any subdomains (in other words, child

domains) contained within that domain. Recall that the namespace of a subdomain

is always subnet.domainname.tld and hosts within the subdomain have names like

something.subnet.domain.tld.

 

Now dammit I have enough bloody students to deal with

[crockettmann]

I have a Lite-on 1633s hooked up as sec. master and a Creative 5241e (old) dvdrom hooked up as pri. slave. It seems I never use the Creative to rip, because it is too slow, so I use my Lite-on for ripping and burning though I rather wouldn't. I always rip to file and process with Shrink first.

Should the Creative be hooked up as Sec. Slave? Or is it just an inherently old piece of crap?

[chewy]

It's serving no use(the dvd-rom drive) except as a fancy face plate.

Pull the cables, keep it in as a backup and face plate.

[slicepie]

Okay, I've finally begun to get higher read/rip speeds. To be honest I'm not quite sure what I did to get it to work. I think it was a combination of the following:

 

1. Changed DVD-RW IDE positions - SONY DRU-810A from Secondary to Primary; SONY DRU-500A from Primary to Secondary

 

2. Changed SONY DRU-810A from Slave to Master; Changed SONY DRU-500A from Master to Slave

 

3. Installed Secondary 40GB Hard Drive, 3rd IDE position, Slave

 

4. After installing Hard Drive, original power cables would not reach their respective DVD-RW drives so I switched the power cables on them.

 

 

As soon as I ran the 1st rip, the SONY DRU-810A reached over 13x read speeds. Since then I have been logging the read speeds and in FILE Mode it has reached a Max Read Speed of 15.5x and in .ISO Read Mode it has reached a Max Read Speed of 15.2x.

 

 

Thanks to all for your advise and suggestions.

[lfcrule1972]

Pleased you got it sorted......

[chewy]

not seeing the forest for the trees

[lfcrule1972]

Neep !!!!

[slicepie]

not seeing the forest for the trees

 

"We shall say, 'Ni!', to you until you appease us."

[slicepie]

Okay, I have come to the conclusion that the read speed of my drive has absolutely nothing to do with which IDE or Slave/Master position it is in. After logging some more tests I noticed that my Local Drive C: was still averaging read speeds of about 7.1x and the max read was never higher than 10.9x. What was interesting was that when I ran tests on the secondary hard drive (Local Drive G:) there was a dramatic difference. The dvd drive was averaging read speeds of 12.5x (up 4.6x) and reached a max speed of 15.9x (up 5.0x). Now considering the speeds are already pretty fast, these increasing read speeds only reduced the read time by about 2 minutes, but that's 2 minutes I have to try not to break something else.

 

I have tried testing this way under both IDE positions as well as switching the Slave/Master positions, and using 4 different reading programs. The results seem to be pretty conclusive. My only question is why? The secondary hard drive that I installed is a Western Digital. I'm not sure what the primary one is. So, I must ask, is it possible for these programs to simply "like or dislike" a particular type of drive?

Edited January 19, 2006 by slicepie

[Movie Junkie]

I am an old stodge who sticks to 4x. Call me dopey.

 

Regards

DOPEY--NOT. I too, burn my DVD5 discs at 4x. I also do my DL discs at 2.4x. Maybe that's why I haven't made many coasters.

[crockettmann]

I, too, never push my burn speds, but am trying to get better ripping speeds.

Please help clarify something for me though. I get better ripping and burning speeds with my burner hooked up as primary slave, but then I think I remember LUK! saying that the burner shouldn't be on the same channel as the OS. Did that mean that it NEEDS to be on the secondary IDE cable, and why does mine seem to work faster? My hard drive is formatted into two partitions, "C" with the OS and "F" just for working space. The ripped files are sent by default to the Drive with the most available space, and I usually "Shrink" them to the other HD. To sum up, my questions are:

 

1-Should the burner be on a different IDE cable than the hard drive?

2-Should I be crossing partitions when encoding?

3-Should I keep the files on a completely different partition than the OS?

[cornholio7]

1- yes

2 - not necessarily

3-if you want to

[chewy]

The definitive term is a luxurious "STANDALONE MASTERS", of course if

2 drives never talk to each other then they can share controllers and cables.

[lfcrule1972]

Actually I think the term is "wtf" and "you lost me"

 

[chewy]

Actually I think the term is "wtf" and "you lost me"

 

 

The best example of standalone masters are serial hard drives, by design

they have no master/slave designation, I took a transcoded vid ts folder

on one hard drive and converted to an iso on another hard drive,

shrink settled in at 38MB/s, 4,399MB in 2 min 2 sec.

 

I could try a test of dual 16x burns with drives sharing the same cable but

I am pretty sure the burn would take 10-12 minutes not 7 or 8!

[lfcrule1972]

Ah thank you Chewy.....

[chewy]

Ah thank you Chewy.....

 

I love to talk power user stuff, now dual raid stripes would be nice and network

3 or 4 of them on gigabit!

 

Of course then I would want dual dual core opterons!

 

now this is fun! with 145$ cpu and 60$ worth of memory

 

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CPU Type AMD Athlon 64

CPU Alias Venice S939

CPU Stepping DH-E3

CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3000+

CPUID Revision 00020FF0h

 

CPU Speed:

CPU Clock 2474.75 MHz

CPU Multiplier 9.0x

CPU FSB 274.97 MHz (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 37%)

Memory Bus 247.48 MHz

 

CPU Cache:

L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)

L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)

L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

 

Motherboard Properties:

 

Motherboard Name Asus A8V Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)

 

Chipset Properties:

Motherboard Chipset VIA K8T800Pro, AMD Hammer

Memory Timings 2.5-4-4-10 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

Command Rate (CR) 1T

 

SPD Memory Modules:

DIMM1: Micron Tech. 256 MB PC4000 DDR SDRAM (2.5-4-4-10 @ 250 MHz) (2.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)

DIMM2: Micron Tech. 256 MB PC4000 DDR SDRAM (2.5-4-4-10 @ 250 MHz) (2.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)

 

BIOS Properties:

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Video BIOS Date 04/08/11

DMI BIOS Version 1014.008

 

Graphics Processor Properties:

Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9600 XT (RV360)

GPU Code Name RV360 (AGP 8x 1002 / 4152, Rev 00)

GPU Clock 500 MHz (original: 500 MHz)

Memory Clock 297 MHz (original: 300 MHz)

 

 

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P4EE 3733 MHz MSI P4N Diamond nForce4-SLI-Intel Dual DDR2-667 7630 MB/s

P4EE 3733 MHz Dell Dimension XPS i925XE Dual DDR2-533 6920 MB/s

Athlon64 2475 MHz Asus A8V Deluxe K8T800Pro Dual PC4000 DDR 6347 MB/s

 

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P4EE 3733 MHz MSI P4N Diamond nForce4-SLI-Intel Dual DDR2-667 2980 MB/s

Athlon64 3500+ 2200 MHz MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3-Ultra Dual PC3200 DDR 2600 MB/s

Pentium EE 840 3200 MHz Intel D955XBK i955X Dual DDR2-667 2280 MB/s

P4 560 3600 MHz Intel D925XCV i925X Dual DDR2-533 2280 MB/s

P4 560 3600 MHz Foxconn 915A01-P i915P Dual DDR2-533 2200 MB/s

P4EE 3733 MHz Dell Dimension XPS i925XE Dual DDR2-533 2040 MB/s

Athlon64 2475 MHz Asus A8V Deluxe K8T800Pro Dual PC4000 DDR 2005 MB/s

 

--------[ Memory Latency ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Athlon64 2475 MHz Asus A8V Deluxe K8T800Pro Dual PC4000 DDR 2.5-4-4-10 44.2 ns Athlon64 3500+ 2200 MHz MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3-Ultra Dual PC3200 DDR 2-2-2-5 45.6 ns

[spinningwheel]

Wow Chewy...that's cool....

 

Mine is silver with black striping and has a really neat silver 19" monitor, now if I knew what the hell the other stuff was I'd probably know what the hell you're talking about......lmfao...

 

 

 

 

[zacoz]

Damn chewy - 37% overclock. I can't get my Athlon 64 3000+ over about 12-13% before it freezes. Then I'm only using the general slider in EasyTune - not actually manually tweaking individual settings. Usually I don't bother overclocking it at all (although funnily enough with no overclocking selected it actually runs 4% over specs once rebooted).

 

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CPU Alias Newcastle S754

CPU Stepping DH-CG

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CPUID Revision 00000FC0h

 

CPU Speed:

CPU Clock 2239.74 MHz

CPU Multiplier 10.0x

CPU FSB 223.97 MHz (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 12%)

Memory Bus 223.97 MHz

 

CPU Cache:

L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)

L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)

L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)

 

Motherboard Properties:

Motherboard ID 08/12/2005-nForce-6A61CG0HC-00

Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-K8NS (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DDR DIMM, Audio, LAN)

 

Chipset Properties:

Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce3 250, AMD Hammer

Memory Timings 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

Command Rate (CR) 1T

 

SPD Memory Modules:

DIMM1: Infineon AED660UD00-500B98X 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)

 

BIOS Properties:

System BIOS Date 08/12/05

Video BIOS Date 04/08/06

Award BIOS Type Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG

Award BIOS Message GA-K8NS F16

DMI BIOS Version F9

 

Graphics Processor Properties:

Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)

GPU Code Name RV280 (AGP 8x 1002 / 5964, Rev 01)

GPU Clock 200 MHz (original: 200 MHz)

Memory Clock 180 MHz (original: 180 MHz)

Edited January 21, 2006 by zacoz

[chewy]

it's not the cpu locking up, it's your infineon memory.

dividers!

 

You should have heard what my german mentor over in digital digest

said when he saw my inital overclock before I backed down the fsb.

I was perfectly stable at

CPU FSB 290.06 MHz (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 45%)

Memory Bus 186.46 MHz

but the mem bus with that memory was too low(I tried 3 sets)

 

idle in high 20's

Edited January 21, 2006 by chewy