ArchElf Posted December 27, 2007 Posted December 27, 2007 (edited) My last 2 writes went wrong on the verify at ~8-10%, so I have decided to make a Disocery run. The log can be found below. Could my drive crashed or I had just got a crapy pile (or fake) discs... AE PS.: I have already written ~10 discs from this pack without errors. Sadly I do not have the sources to re-verify them... PS2: I'm using the drive (the whole pc) standing in vertical position (the writer is standing vertically to), because I don't have space to put the machine right on its base... It is an office pc however (DELL Optiplex), so it has standings on it' left side, which is the 'bottom' of the machine now. I have already written ~100 discs in this position and generated only 1-2 bad discs (excluded the last 3) so far. I 22:51:58 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 22:51:58 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 22:51:58 Total Physical Memory: 777 204 KB - Available: 406 648 KB I 22:51:59 Initialising SPTI... I 22:51:59 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:52:08 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW! I 22:58:12 Operation Started! I 22:58:12 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 22:58:12 Source File Sectors: 2 298 496 (MODE1/2048) I 22:58:12 Source File Size: 4 707 319 808 bytes I 22:58:12 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 22:58:12 Source File File System(s): None I 22:58:12 Destination Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U US08 (E:) (ATA) I 22:58:12 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 2x; 4x; 6x; 8x; 10x; 12x) I 22:58:12 Destination Media Sectors: 2 298 496 I 22:58:12 Write Mode: DVD I 22:58:12 Write Type: DAO I 22:58:12 Write Speed: 6x I 22:58:12 Link Size: Auto I 22:58:12 Test Mode: No I 22:58:12 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 22:58:13 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 22:58:13 Writing LeadIn... I 22:58:42 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2298495) I 23:08:21 Synchronising Cache... I 23:08:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:19 I 23:08:32 Average Write Rate: 7 939 KB/s (5.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8 375 KB/s (6.0x) I 23:08:32 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 23:08:40 Waiting for device to become ready... I 23:08:55 Device Ready! I 23:08:55 Operation Started! I 23:08:55 Source Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U US08 (E:) (ATA) I 23:08:55 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 2x; 4x; 6x; 8x; 10x; 12x) I 23:08:55 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:08:55 Image File Sectors: 2 298 496 (MODE1/2048) I 23:08:55 Image File Size: 4 707 319 808 bytes I 23:08:55 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:08:55 Image File File System(s): None I 23:08:55 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2298495) E 23:17:22 Failed to Read Sector 207618 - L-EC Uncorrectable Error E 23:17:22 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 23:17:22 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:08:27 I 23:17:22 Average Verify Rate: 820 KB/s (0.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5 695 KB/s (4.1x) Edited December 27, 2007 by ArchElf
ArchElf Posted December 27, 2007 Author Posted December 27, 2007 Tomorrow I'll try the next disc in my office PC at work, lets see what an another drive says... Anyhow, I'm waiting for any comments. AE
mmalves Posted December 27, 2007 Posted December 27, 2007 I 22:58:12 Destination Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U US08 (E:) (ATA) Remove any disc from the burner, close the tray, apply the latest firmware available (US09) then reboot your computer. Also try burning at other speeds. As a last resort, you might want to use a cleaning disc on that burner. Have you tried DVD+Rs? As for those ~10 burnt discs, if you had Verify enabled when your burnt them, and they passed the verify process, then they're fine and you don't need to worry about them.
ArchElf Posted December 28, 2007 Author Posted December 28, 2007 I 22:58:12 Destination Device: [1:0:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U US08 (E:) (ATA) Remove any disc from the burner, close the tray, apply the latest firmware available (US09) then reboot your computer. Also try burning at other speeds. As a last resort, you might want to use a cleaning disc on that burner. Have you tried DVD+Rs? As for those ~10 burnt discs, if you had Verify enabled when your burnt them, and they passed the verify process, then they're fine and you don't need to worry about them. Sadly I do not know what to do with the lastest firmware... All the linked files but the last are normal .bin files which could be applied with the flash utility, but the last one seems that the flash utlity has been integrated with the bin file (assumed by it's size). However the flash utility does not recognize the drive, or some other error occured, because there is no option in the utility to update the DVD... screenshot attached. AE
ArchElf Posted December 28, 2007 Author Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) I have tried the device query tool found in the firmware webpage which identified the drive right, the update for the file is right (at least it seems so), I could re-flash the drive with the US08 firmware, but at the end, I could not update the drive to US09 with the new 'One Click' integrated firmware update utility. AE edit: BTW the firmware page specifies the update as 'Windows Vista Support' which is unneeded in my case since I am using XPSP2. Edited December 28, 2007 by ArchElf
ArchElf Posted December 28, 2007 Author Posted December 28, 2007 One more questions... Can I verify a Discovery disc in an another drive? I know that it only contains zeros, but I need an image to verify the disc to, which is dinamically created by ImgBurn during the write process. Can I create the same 'discovery' ISO as well with ImgBurn? If not, can someone send it attached (I think the iso zipped should not be too big) AE
ArchElf Posted December 28, 2007 Author Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) One more questions... Can I verify a Discovery disc in an another drive? I know that it only contains zeros, but I need an image to verify the disc to, which is dinamically created by ImgBurn during the write process. Can I create the same 'discovery' ISO as well with ImgBurn? If not, can someone send it attached (I think the iso zipped should not be too big) AE I have tried to read one two of the DVD's in my office PC DVD reader. The log can be found below (I have pressed continue once after the first read error...) AE I 09:20:50 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 09:20:50 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 09:20:50 Total Physical Memory: 261,616 KB - Available: 172,312 KB I 09:20:50 Initialising SPTI... I 09:20:50 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 09:20:52 Found 1 DVD-ROM! I 09:23:08 Operation Started! I 09:23:08 Source Device: [1:0:0] MS C/DVD-ROM 3.0 (D:) (ATA) I 09:23:08 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM I 09:23:08 Source Media Sectors: 2,164,453 I 09:23:08 Source Media Size: 4,432,799,744 bytes I 09:23:08 Verify Against Image File: No I 09:23:08 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2164452) W 09:25:19 Failed to Read Sector 236592 - Incompatible Medium Installed W 09:25:19 Sector 236592 maps to File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB E 09:25:25 Failed to Read Sector 236593 - Incompatible Medium Installed E 09:25:25 Sector 236593 maps to File: VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB E 09:25:25 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 09:25:25 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:02:17 I 09:25:25 Average Verify Rate: 3,479 KB/s (2.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5,769 KB/s (4.2x) I 09:29:27 Operation Started! I 09:29:27 Source Device: [1:0:0] MS C/DVD-ROM 3.0 (D:) (ATA) I 09:29:27 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM I 09:29:27 Source Media Sectors: 2,298,645 I 09:29:27 Source Media Size: 4,707,624,960 bytes I 09:29:27 Verify Against Image File: No I 09:29:27 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2298644) E 09:31:21 Failed to Read Sector 207616 - Incompatible Medium Installed E 09:31:21 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 09:31:21 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:01:54 I 09:31:21 Average Verify Rate: 3,642 KB/s (2.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5,701 KB/s (4.1x) Edited December 28, 2007 by ArchElf
ArchElf Posted December 28, 2007 Author Posted December 28, 2007 The next disc seems OK with an another drive... It seems so far, that my writer broke (or dislike these disks) AE I 09:45:17 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 09:45:17 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 09:45:17 Total Physical Memory: 2 071 792 KB - Available: 1 640 620 KB I 09:45:17 Initialising SPTI... I 09:45:17 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 09:45:17 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW! I 09:46:28 Operation Started! I 09:46:28 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 09:46:28 Source File Sectors: 2 297 888 (MODE1/2048) I 09:46:28 Source File Size: 4 706 074 624 bytes I 09:46:28 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 09:46:28 Source File File System(s): None I 09:46:28 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-755A 1.08 (USB) I 09:46:28 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x) I 09:46:28 Destination Media Sectors: 2 297 888 I 09:46:28 Write Mode: DVD I 09:46:28 Write Type: DAO I 09:46:28 Write Speed: 6x I 09:46:28 Link Size: Auto I 09:46:28 Test Mode: No I 09:46:28 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 09:46:28 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 09:46:28 Writing LeadIn... I 09:47:02 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 2297887) I 09:56:34 Synchronising Cache... I 09:56:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:18 I 09:56:46 Average Write Rate: 8 034 KB/s (5.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8 405 KB/s (6.1x) I 09:56:46 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 09:57:10 Device Ready! I 09:57:11 Operation Started! I 09:57:11 Source Device: [0:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-755A 1.08 (USB) I 09:57:11 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 03RG20) (Speeds: 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x) I 09:57:11 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 09:57:11 Image File Sectors: 2 297 888 (MODE1/2048) I 09:57:11 Image File Size: 4 706 074 624 bytes I 09:57:11 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 09:57:11 Image File File System(s): None I 09:57:11 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2297887) I 10:03:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:38 I 10:03:49 Average Verify Rate: 11 576 KB/s (8.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16 743 KB/s (12.1x)
mmalves Posted December 28, 2007 Posted December 28, 2007 Try this one: TS-H552U_US09.zip It's exactly the same from Samsung, but in ZIP format. Run SFDNWIN.exe and manually load the TS-H552U_US09.bin file (click the first button on the top left corner). It should start the flashing process as soon as you've selected the firmware (if it doesn't then click the second button on the top left corner). Remember that there should be no disc in the drive and the tray must be closed before doing this.
ArchElf Posted December 28, 2007 Author Posted December 28, 2007 Try this one: TS-H552U_US09.zipIt's exactly the same from Samsung, but in ZIP format. Run SFDNWIN.exe and manually load the TS-H552U_US09.bin file (click the first button on the top left corner). It should start the flashing process as soon as you've selected the firmware (if it doesn't then click the second button on the top left corner). Remember that there should be no disc in the drive and the tray must be closed before doing this. Thanks, I'll try the fw this evening... AE
ArchElf Posted December 29, 2007 Author Posted December 29, 2007 Thanks, I'll try the fw this evening... AE I have teared up the pc's top yesterday, and cleaned it through. Disassembled the DVD writer and blown out a half bucket of dust resting there. After a half-an-hour cleaning tested the drive with the new US09 firmware on the next disc and it worked like newer before... Apart from joking: after cleaning the drive, updating the firmware and burning the 2nd next disc in the box, it went without problems. I do not really know whether some discs were faulty or the firmware was outdated, but cleaning the drive is never useless... I should have done it before crying AE
snake69fast Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 Try this one: TS-H552U_US09.zipIt's exactly the same from Samsung, but in ZIP format. Run SFDNWIN.exe and manually load the TS-H552U_US09.bin file (click the first button on the top left corner). It should start the flashing process as soon as you've selected the firmware (if it doesn't then click the second button on the top left corner). Remember that there should be no disc in the drive and the tray must be closed before doing this. Happy New Year!!! May I also have the .bin file please?
mmalves Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 Happy New Year!!!May I also have the .bin file please? Of course! Try clicking that link again, it should be working now...
snake69fast Posted December 31, 2007 Posted December 31, 2007 Happy New Year!!!May I also have the .bin file please? Of course! Try clicking that link again, it should be working now... Wawww....really fast! Thanks a lot!
tanpantsman Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) I have been having this a similar on several different computers, but these discs seemed to work for a few burns, but now, even the new ones fail straight away ==edit== I should mention that small files, like 8 megs work fine, and one of 640 ish don't work I don't know how big the biggest non-failing file is ==/edit== Here's My log file: I 23:30:16 Operation Started! I 23:30:16 Device: [1:0:0] Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-5170S 101B (I:) (ATA) I 23:30:16 Media Type: CD-RW (Disc ID: 97m25s30f) (Speeds: 10x) I 23:30:16 Quick Erase: Yes I 23:30:16 Erasing Disc... I 23:30:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:34 I 23:30:52 Operation Started! I 23:30:52 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:30:52 Source File Sectors: 359,846 (MODE1/2048) I 23:30:52 Source File Size: 736,964,608 bytes I 23:30:52 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:30:52 Source File File System(s): None I 23:30:52 Destination Device: [1:0:0] Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-5170S 101B (I:) (ATA) I 23:30:52 Destination Media Type: CD-RW (Disc ID: 97m25s30f) (Speeds: 10x) I 23:30:52 Destination Media Sectors: 359,846 I 23:30:52 Write Mode: CD I 23:30:52 Write Type: SAO I 23:30:52 Write Speed: 12x I 23:30:52 Test Mode: No I 23:30:52 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 23:30:52 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 23:30:52 Writing LeadIn... I 23:31:08 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 359845) I 23:39:06 Synchronising Cache... I 23:39:29 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:37 I 23:39:29 Average Write Rate: 1,508 KB/s (10.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1,512 KB/s (10.1x) I 23:39:29 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 23:39:46 Device Ready! I 23:39:49 Operation Started! I 23:39:49 Source Device: [1:0:0] Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-5170S 101B (I:) (ATA) I 23:39:49 Source Media Type: CD-RW (Disc ID: 97m25s30f) (Speeds: 10x) I 23:39:49 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:39:49 Image File Sectors: 359,846 (MODE1/2048) I 23:39:49 Image File Size: 736,964,608 bytes I 23:39:49 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:39:49 Image File File System(s): None I 23:39:50 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 359845) W 23:42:43 Failed to Read Sector 305969 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:42:45 Failed to Read Sector 305990 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:42:48 Failed to Read Sector 306033 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:04 Failed to Read Sector 306202 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:06 Failed to Read Sector 306203 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:31 Failed to Read Sector 307689 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:39 Failed to Read Sector 308029 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:41 Failed to Read Sector 308030 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:43 Failed to Read Sector 308050 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:46 Failed to Read Sector 308051 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:43:58 Failed to Read Sector 309326 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:07 Failed to Read Sector 310371 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:09 Failed to Read Sector 310372 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:11 Failed to Read Sector 310393 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:15 Failed to Read Sector 310478 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:18 Failed to Read Sector 310500 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:29 Failed to Read Sector 311887 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:50 Failed to Read Sector 312080 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:44:55 Failed to Read Sector 312122 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:45:17 Failed to Read Sector 314627 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:45:23 Failed to Read Sector 314628 - No Seek Complete W 23:45:26 Failed to Read Sector 314648 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:45:29 Failed to Read Sector 314649 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:45:41 Failed to Read Sector 314650 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:45:43 Failed to Read Sector 314670 - Unrecovered Read Error W 23:45:45 Failed to Read Sector 314671 - No Seek Complete =========Trimmed for length===================== =========The stuff that was here was all the=========== =========same, with different===================== =========time stamps and different sectors============ W 00:03:01 Failed to Read Sector 325465 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:03 Failed to Read Sector 325466 - No Seek Complete W 00:03:13 Failed to Read Sector 325509 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:15 Failed to Read Sector 325510 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:23 Failed to Read Sector 325748 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:25 Failed to Read Sector 325749 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:27 Failed to Read Sector 325791 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:29 Failed to Read Sector 325792 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:31 Failed to Read Sector 325835 - Unrecovered Read Error W 00:03:34 Failed to Read Sector 325857 - Unrecovered Read Error E 00:03:41 Failed to Read Sector 325966 - Unrecovered Read Error E 00:03:42 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 00:03:42 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:23:52 I 00:03:42 Average Verify Rate: 455 KB/s (3.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 5,641 KB/s (37.6x) Any ideas? Thanks in advance, John Edited January 3, 2008 by tanpantsman
ArchElf Posted January 3, 2008 Author Posted January 3, 2008 Damn... I still have problems 2 successful writes, and the very same defect again. Verify error at ~8%... I think the head moving spindle (it that the right term?) should be defect. It seems I have to get rid of the writer... I'll have a try with an another disc (TDK), if it gives the same problem... AE
spinningwheel Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 tanpantsman; Crappy disc's is a part of your problem. Switch to Taiyo Yuden cd's. Your problem is with cd's so if changing to better media doesn't help...start a new thread 2ith a log of the burn and a description of the problem. ArchElf; time for a new one. TDK is not what we recommend here so it's 50/50 whether it would be a fair test of the drive anyway.
ArchElf Posted January 3, 2008 Author Posted January 3, 2008 tanpantsman; Crappy disc's is a part of your problem. Switch to Taiyo Yuden cd's. Your problem is with cd's so if changing to better media doesn't help...start a new thread 2ith a log of the burn and a description of the problem. ArchElf; time for a new one. TDK is not what we recommend here so it's 50/50 whether it would be a fair test of the drive anyway. I think if it fails in the same place, it should not be the pack of Verba discs that were defect. Anyway the screachy sound coming out from the drive during spinup is not reassuring... It sounds like the disc is not fixed right during spinup, or placed eccentric and drive slows down and release the disc for a moment to correct the placement... The veird sound effect is produced only after I put the disc into the drive, but not when the drive is opened and closed before the verify process. AE
ArchElf Posted January 3, 2008 Author Posted January 3, 2008 I think if it fails in the same place, it should not be the pack of Verba discs that were defect. Anyway the screachy sound coming out from the drive during spinup is not reassuring... It sounds like the disc is not fixed right during spinup, or placed eccentric and drive slows down and release the disc for a moment to correct the placement... The veird sound effect is produced only after I put the disc into the drive, but not when the drive is opened and closed before the verify process. AE The TDK works fine. I feel like a stupid... Is my drive bad or what??? I'm getting angry. AE
ArchElf Posted January 3, 2008 Author Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) The TDK works fine. I feel like a stupid... Is my drive bad or what??? I'm getting angry. AE The graph does not seem 'perfect'. It looks like there *is* something around that head-position. AE :edit: for second thought it is not... it's around 15% Edited January 3, 2008 by ArchElf
ArchElf Posted January 5, 2008 Author Posted January 5, 2008 I'm thinking in buying a new drive. I have two drives in mind: LG E60L PX 810US Both are external, but the Plex one costs around double. Do anyone have experience with any of the above? AE
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 5, 2008 Posted January 5, 2008 Don't pay over the odds for the Plextor, I'm pretty sure it's just a rebranded Pioneer 112/212.
ArchElf Posted January 5, 2008 Author Posted January 5, 2008 Don't pay over the odds for the Plextor, I'm pretty sure it's just a rebranded Pioneer 112/212. I've bought the LG writer. I'm just done with the first write (not a discovery, an image write) pasting the PIPO images below. Since the drive cannot produce PIPO scan the scans were made by the old writer. AE
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 5, 2008 Posted January 5, 2008 You should probably slow the scan speed to 4x too.
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