aztec Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Uh hi. Okay. So recently, I bought a pack of Sony DVD+RW's (DPW47L2) and I've had problems burning episodes on to them with my LG GSA-4167B. Unlike my DVD+RW Verbatim discs, it takes a long time for imgburn or my computer to recognize the disc. AND when I burn more than one episode onto the disc, my Philips dvd player (DVP642) can't play this disc! When I burn only one episode, it plays after 10 seconds or so. Doubt this is relevant but I can't forward/rewind any of the files on my dvd player. I could do this before with my Sony CD+RW's. Help.
Cynthia Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Hi and welcome to the forum, aztec! Can you post a log file from one of these burns with the Sony +RW's? You can find the log files here: Main Menu -> Help -> ImgBurn Log files But it sounds as your stand alone player don't like that brand of discs.
aztec Posted February 26, 2008 Author Posted February 26, 2008 Ehh. I'll do it ASAP, I can't right now. But yeah. As far as I know the discs just suck. Remember, the discs barely open with my cd drive. Can't be my dvd player.
aztec Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 Here's my log. I 19:56:35 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 19:56:35 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 19:56:35 Total Physical Memory: 785,904 KB - Available: 466,972 KB I 19:56:35 Initialising SPTI... I 19:56:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:56:38 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 19:56:50 Operation Started! I 19:56:50 Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B DL13 (D:) (ATA) I 19:56:50 Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: SONY-S11-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 19:56:50 Quick Erase: Yes I 19:56:50 Erasing Disc... I 19:56:59 Synchronising Cache... I 19:56:59 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:09 I 19:57:20 Operation Started! I 19:57:21 Building Image Tree... I 19:57:21 Checking Directory Depth... I 19:57:21 Calculating Totals... I 19:57:21 Preparing Image... I 19:57:21 Checking Path Length... I 19:57:21 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders I 19:57:21 Size: 369,101,178 bytes I 19:57:21 Sectors: 180,226 I 19:57:21 Image Size: 369,655,808 bytes I 19:57:21 Image Sectors: 180,496 I 19:57:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 19:57:43 Operation Started! I 19:57:43 Building Image Tree... I 19:57:44 Checking Directory Depth... I 19:57:44 Calculating Totals... I 19:57:44 Preparing Image... I 19:57:44 Checking Path Length... I 19:57:44 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders I 19:57:44 Size: 369,101,178 bytes I 19:57:44 Sectors: 180,226 I 19:57:44 Image Size: 369,655,808 bytes I 19:57:44 Image Sectors: 180,496 I 19:57:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:02 I 19:57:46 Operation Started! I 19:57:46 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 19:57:46 Source File Sectors: 180,496 (MODE1/2048) I 19:57:46 Source File Size: 369,655,808 bytes I 19:57:46 Source File Volume Identifier: Desktop I 19:57:46 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 19:57:46 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 19:57:46 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 19:57:46 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B DL13 (D:) (ATA) I 19:57:46 Destination Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: SONY-S11-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 19:57:46 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 19:57:46 Write Mode: DVD I 19:57:46 Write Type: DAO I 19:57:46 Write Speed: 4x I 19:57:46 Link Size: Auto I 19:57:46 Test Mode: No I 19:57:46 OPC: Yes I 19:57:46 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:57:46 Book Type Setting: N/A I 19:57:46 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 19:57:47 Writing LeadIn... I 19:57:50 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 180495) I 19:57:50 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 180495) I 19:58:56 Synchronising Cache... I 19:58:57 Closing Session... I 19:58:58 Image MD5: 12c9144b58c1170509e9637f055f0205 I 19:58:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:12 I 19:58:58 Average Write Rate: 5,469 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,566 KB/s (4.0x)
mmalves Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Do a Full erase on that disc and enable Verify the next time you burn to that disc. Also, in the Options tab, you might want to use filesystem(s) ISO9660 + Joliet. By the way, you don't need to erase the DVD+RW before burning: just proceed as usual and, when asked, confirm to overwrite it
Cynthia Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 burning episodes I 19:57:44 Contents: 1 File, 0 Folders Curious... In what format is that file? DivX?
chewy Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Philips DVP642 DivX-Certified Progressive-Scan DVD Player I would put more than 1 40 minute avi on there
aztec Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 Will try mmalves thing soon. And I burn .avi's.
aztec Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 Bah! Mmalve's thing didn't work. New log. I 06:45:40 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 06:45:40 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 06:45:40 Total Physical Memory: 785,904 KB - Available: 503,384 KB I 06:45:40 Initialising SPTI... I 06:45:40 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 06:45:44 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 06:46:33 Operation Started! I 06:46:33 Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B DL13 (D:) (ATA) I 06:46:33 Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: SONY-S11-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 06:46:33 Quick Erase: No I 06:46:33 Erasing Disc... I 07:02:38 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:16:04 I 07:03:55 Operation Started! I 07:03:55 Building Image Tree... I 07:03:55 Checking Directory Depth... I 07:03:55 Calculating Totals... I 07:03:55 Preparing Image... I 07:03:55 Checking Path Length... I 07:03:55 Contents: 2 Files, 0 Folders I 07:03:55 Size: 733,333,504 bytes I 07:03:55 Sectors: 358,073 I 07:03:55 Image Size: 733,413,376 bytes I 07:03:55 Image Sectors: 358,112 I 07:03:55 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 07:04:36 Operation Started! I 07:04:36 Building Image Tree... I 07:04:42 Checking Directory Depth... I 07:04:42 Calculating Totals... I 07:04:42 Preparing Image... I 07:04:42 Checking Path Length... I 07:04:42 Contents: 2 Files, 0 Folders I 07:04:42 Size: 733,333,504 bytes I 07:04:42 Sectors: 358,073 I 07:04:42 Image Size: 733,413,376 bytes I 07:04:42 Image Sectors: 358,112 I 07:04:43 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:06 I 07:04:43 Operation Started! I 07:04:43 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 07:04:43 Source File Sectors: 358,112 (MODE1/2048) I 07:04:43 Source File Size: 733,413,376 bytes I 07:04:43 Source File Volume Identifier: Desktop I 07:04:43 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 07:04:43 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 07:04:43 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B DL13 (D:) (ATA) I 07:04:43 Destination Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: SONY-S11-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 07:04:43 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 07:04:43 Write Mode: DVD I 07:04:43 Write Type: DAO I 07:04:43 Write Speed: 4x I 07:04:43 Link Size: Auto I 07:04:43 Test Mode: No I 07:04:43 OPC: Yes I 07:04:43 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 07:04:46 Book Type Setting: N/A I 07:04:51 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 07:04:52 Writing LeadIn... I 07:04:53 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 358111) I 07:04:53 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 358111) I 07:07:05 Synchronising Cache... I 07:07:06 Closing Session... I 07:07:07 Image MD5: 65b862ead31f5e5fcafa822486e6af67 I 07:07:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:02:23 I 07:07:07 Average Write Rate: 5,425 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,566 KB/s (4.0x) I 07:07:07 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 07:07:16 Waiting for device to become ready... I 07:07:33 Device Ready! I 07:07:35 Operation Started! I 07:07:35 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B DL13 (D:) (ATA) I 07:07:35 Source Media Type: DVD+RW (Book Type: DVD+RW) (Disc ID: SONY-S11-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x) I 07:07:35 Image File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 07:07:35 Image File Sectors: 358,112 (MODE1/2048) I 07:07:35 Image File Size: 733,413,376 bytes I 07:07:35 Image File Volume Identifier: Desktop I 07:07:35 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 07:07:35 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 07:07:35 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 07:07:35 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 358111) I 07:07:35 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 358111) W 07:08:02 Failed to Read Sector 6608 - Unrecovered Read Error W 07:08:02 Sector 6608 maps to File: \Heroes - 1x07 - Nothing to Hide - DVDrip - tpz.avi E 07:08:10 Failed to Read Sector 6609 - Unrecovered Read Error E 07:08:10 Sector 6609 maps to File: \Heroes - 1x07 - Nothing to Hide - DVDrip - tpz.avi E 07:08:10 Failed to Verify Sectors! E 07:08:10 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:35 I 07:08:10 Average Verify Rate: 377 KB/s (0.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 3,779 KB/s (2.7x) /needs some lightning expertise
Cynthia Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 That RW disc is it scratched and/or heavily used?
aztec Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 No. It's new. I tried with another disc too.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Use a different dye then. You said others had worked, go back to those.
CompNetTeach Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I'll put in my two cents worth of info. There IS a problem with ImgBurn formatting Sony DVD+RWs. I have a small stack of them, and have been using them successfully with other software & standalone video DVD recorders. (These are real Sony DVD+RWs, not counterfeit, that came as a bonus with the Sony DVD recorder.) Nero will properly format the disk everytime. Once the disk is formatted (either quick or full), then ImgBurn will properly recognize the disk and will burn successfully. If the disk is formatted with the standalone DVD (TV video) recorder, ImgBurn will not successfully reformat & burn to the disk, UNLESS the disk has been completely filled and finalized on the standalone recorder. Could the Sony DVD+RWs be missing or have slightly different some piece of info in the identification area built into every piece of media than what ImgBurn is expecting? This can be a concern, as Sony was one of the main backers of the "plus" format and wrote much of the specs. I can't remember which brand, but a friend mentioned he had a similar problem with another brand with ImgBurn (they worked with Nero but not ImgBurn). Of course, he can't remember now, as the disks now work with ImgBurn after being first used with something else. So, this should be a low priority issue worth tracking down sometime...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 The command specs are there for a reason, these things aren't media specific. If the ImgBurn format fails then your drive has the issue with the disc, not the program itself. You might not want to believe that or understand it, but it's true.
CompNetTeach Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 The command specs are there for a reason, these things aren't media specific. If the ImgBurn format fails then your drive has the issue with the disc, not the program itself. You might not want to believe that or understand it, but it's true. Well... The behaviour occurs on two different computers with different burners: Benq DW1625, Lite-On SHM-165H6S. I even once tried it on a borrowed Sony DRU-520UL with the same result. Since I got a stack of 15 of them (going to last a while...), I'll just have to remember to QuickFormat or use them with something else first.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Why not post the actual error so we can take a look for you?
CompNetTeach Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Why not post the actual error so we can take a look for you? As per your request: I 16:26:28 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 16:26:28 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 16:26:28 Total Physical Memory: 261,616 KB - Available: 38,536 KB W 16:26:28 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 16:26:28 Drive E:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 16:26:28 Drive M:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 16:26:28 Drive U:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. W 16:26:28 Drive W:\ (FAT) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 16:26:34 Initialising SPTI... I 16:26:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 16:26:35 Found 1 DVD
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 It's deffo a drive thing. Once the 'format' command has been sent to the drive, all ImgBurn does is poll it (via 'Test Unit Ready' and alike) to see when it's done. It's not doing any 'work', just playing a kid in the back seat of a car asking 'are we nearly there yet?' If the polling commands don't get back a typical response - i.e. 'Long Write in progress', it throws up the 'Potential WaitImmediateIO Deferred Error' message with the error the drive reported - in this case' Session Fixation Error'. The errors are 110% out of the software's control. It's purely a drive/firmware/media thing. Nero doesn't wait for the format to finish, that's why the 'Formatted' status is left in limbo. I default to making ImgBurn wait until it's completely done.
CompNetTeach Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Umm.... Interesting. Like I said, this happens with multiple burners from more than one manufacturer - I can post similar results from the Benq and my buddy's Matshita but it's pretty much the same log. As mentioned previously, once the disc is formatted properly by something, ImgBurn will reformat (quick erase) and burn to the Sony DVD+RW no problem. The discs work well otherwise, in fact, one platter has been rewritten at least 50 times so far in the video recorder. (Unlike a certain major North American office supply retailer's private label that died on the 3rd & 7th reuse for 2 different discs - note that the staff had indicated that there was a warranty on the media, which there was not - painful, like getting stabbed by a staple.) I'll just leave this as a community advisory that there can be some finicky media that just doesn't like simple formatting and has to be force formatted by something else. Thanks for looking into it.
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