DL DVD+Rs failed 5 times

[geohei]

Hi.

 

Disk 5 failed right now. I kept on buring #30 video DL DVDs during the past 5 days. All went fine. This particular authoring doesn't want to stick on the disks (see ImgBurn log below). I also tried the "Don't update IFO/BUP file" option. No change.

 

The only particularity with this DVD is, that I had to patch VTS_02_1.VOB to VTS_02_4.VOB to a different resolution (using DVDPatcher). But this should be of no interest for ImgBurn.

 

Any ideas ... ?

 

I 09:20:32 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!

I 09:20:32 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 09:20:32 Total Physical Memory: 2.094.352 KB - Available: 1.557.652 KB

W 09:20:32 Drive X:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

W 09:20:32 Drive Y:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

I 09:20:33 Initialising SPTI...

I 09:20:33 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 09:20:33 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Maybe it's a size thing. The disc is pretty full there and you're only using the cheapo Ricoh discs.

 

How many times have you tried burning it?

 

Have you tried using a LB position that uses less padding (i.e. so the data going onto the disc is smaller) ?

[geohei]

Maybe it's a size thing. The disc is pretty full there and you're only using the cheapo Ricoh discs.

 

How many times have you tried burning it?

 

Have you tried using a LB position that uses less padding (i.e. so the data going onto the disc is smaller) ?

 

Until now, I thought that the available disc space advertized on the DVDs is reliable (please confirm)?!

 

I burned many DL DVDs which were filled even more.

 

I tried 5 DL DVDs.

 

I will try going from optimum (yellow star) to the position below (8386 -> 1 padding) ...

 

... later ...

 

...
E 17:37:32 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Session Fixation Error Writing Lead Out

 

What else can I try?

Edited June 19, 2008 by geohei

[geohei]

I hate to say this, but Nero 6 managed to burn the DL DVD without any problem.

 

What can Nero what ImgBurn can't?

 

Can you confirm that the 720x576 -> 704x576 resolution patch is not the reason that ImgBurn doesn't want to properly write this DL DVD?

 

I explain what it's about ... I record movies from satellite (DVB-S) in 720x576 and 704x576 (both resolutions are DVD compliant standard). However my authoring software Adobe Encore 2 requires the video streams in 720x576. Hence, I have to patch the streams using DVDPatcher before importing them into Encore. When the authoring is complete, I have to patch the concerned .vob files back to 704x576, otherwiese there's a green band at the right side of the movie.

 

Is it possible that this manipulation disturbs ImgBurn somehow?

 

Thanks

[LIGHTNING UK!]

There's nothing to say that Nero can/is even looking for errors in these finalisation stages.

 

Also, it uses the incremental write type and not dao. Sometimes one will work when the other doesn't - it all depends on how the drive is feeling that day.

 

The content of the image has nothing to do with why it's failing. This is purely a drive/firmware/media combo issue.

[geohei]

In other words ... I can stop looking why this error occurs since I won't find it, right?

 

Have you ever had such issue before?

Is it related to DL DVDs or can this also happen with regular DVDs?

Is it not possible to tell ImgBurn to use the incremental write type as well (instead od DAO)?

 

I'd like to understand what went on here wince this "experiment" was costing me +10 DL DVDs. I would like to avoid this in the future.

 

Thanks.

Edited June 20, 2008 by geohei

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Have you ever had such issue before?

 

Personally, no. But then I don't use Ricoh DL discs, I use Verbatim.

 

Is it related to DL DVDs or can this also happen with regular DVDs?

 

It can happen on any media the drive has problems with.

 

Is it not possible to tell ImgBurn to use the incremental write type as well (instead od DAO)?

 

Yes, in the 'Settings' on the 'Write' tab under 'Write Type'.

[geohei]

Have you ever had such issue before?

Personally, no. But then I don't use Ricoh DL discs, I use Verbatim.

So you think it's a media problem. Hmmm ...

 

Is it related to DL DVDs or can this also happen with regular DVDs?

It can happen on any media the drive has problems with.

Actually, I burned #100 DL DVDs with this particular media using Nero and never had problems.

 

Is it not possible to tell ImgBurn to use the incremental write type as well (instead od DAO)?

Yes, in the 'Settings' on the 'Write' tab under 'Write Type'.

Do you think that this is the reason for subject issue?

 

BTW ... is it possible to simulate a DL DVD burn (I don't want to spend 4.-

[LIGHTNING UK!]

The only thing that can make the drive error out like that is the drive itself.

 

Only 3 things are involved in the burn quality (or lack of) and that's the drive, its firmware and the media you're using.

 

No software can force it to write to something it doesn't want to, just like no software can make it not write to something it wants to.

 

All ImgBurn is doing is feeding it with a stream of data.

 

The DVD+ (plus) format does not support test write and even if it did, you'll only get write errors when the laser is actually 'ON' and writing.

 

Switching to incremental works sometimes and fails others, all you can do is try it. What I have to make clear however is that you shouldn't *need* to do that if the driver/firmware/media combo were all playing nicely together.

 

btw, you can get Verbatim DVD+R DL's for about