old media burned at 8x when slower speed selected

[Downdude]

I was trying to use up some really old media I had packed away and when I tried to burn an iso at 2.4x on a Maxell 2.4x rated disc it burned at 8x. I tried a TDK 4x rated disc at 4x and it also burned at 8x speed. The maxell disc failed verify with unreadable sectors but the TDK survived ok. I never had issued with my old 4x burner and older versions of imgburn with these discs.

 

maxell screenshot:

 

TDK ibg:

 

Here's the TDK's log because I didn't save the other one:

 

I 01:40:50 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!

I 01:40:50 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 01:40:50 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,168 KB - Available: 1,470,412 KB

W 01:40:50 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

I 01:40:50 Initialising SPTI...

I 01:40:50 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 01:40:50 Found 1 DVD

Edited June 29, 2008 by Downdude

[LOCOENG]

All of your logs reside at Help->Imgburn logs.

 

I think you are just asking too much of the media, the discs aren't made for that type of speed.

[Downdude]

Um the point was that i was not trying to burn them at 8x. That's the bug. I tried to burn at rated speed and imgburn instead burned at 8x. Look at the first screen shot it clearly shows write speed at 2.4x but the write rate was at 8x. I do not want to burn them faster.

[Downdude]

Oh and thanks for the info about the log files. So here is the log for the 2.4x maxell disc:

 

I 16:15:16 ImgBurn Version 2.4.1.0 started!

I 16:15:16 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 16:15:16 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,168 KB - Available: 1,436,680 KB

W 16:15:16 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.

I 16:15:16 Initialising SPTI...

I 16:15:16 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 16:15:17 Found 1 DVD

[mmalves]

ImgBurn sends the right command for the burn speed you've selected, but it's up to the drive and its firmware to obey that command or not.

 

There's firmware SB04 available for your burner (which currentrly uses SB01), so remove any disc from the drive, close the tray and upgrade your firmware.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

lol interesting that the drive only reports 2.4x as a supported speed and yet it burnt at 8x anyway!

 

Buggy firmware I guess as there's nothing the program can do to make it burn faster than it wants to.

 

Hopefully SB04 will sort it.

[mmalves]

Apparently SB01 and SB04 both don't have a write strategy for those Media IDs. It's probably using a default generic strategy.

 

SB01:

DVD+R	supported media types:   74
------------------------------------------
(...)
RICOHJPN R02	12x,8x,6x,4x
RICOHJPN R03	18x,16x,12x,8x,6x,4x
RICOHJPN R03	20x,18x,16x,12x,8x,6x,4x
(...)

 

SB04:

DVD+R	supported media types:   75
------------------------------------------
(...)
RICOHJPN R02	12x,8x,6x,4x
RICOHJPN R03	18x,16x,12x,8x,6x,4x
RICOHJPN R03	20x,18x,16x,12x,8x,6x,4x
(...)

[Downdude]

SB04 didn't make any difference. I guess since I don't have that many of these discs left it wont matter soon. Strangely I tried one of these discs in Nero and it gave a warning that the disc was not in the burner's write strategy list, as mmalves said, and then it defaulted to 2.4x. The actual burn went at 1.9x though and not 8x so I'm not sure what nero did differently but I guess I'll just use it for these older discs till they are gone.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Downdude

[LIGHTNING UK!]

1.9x isn't even a real speed on DVD+ (plus) format media. 2.4x is the slowest the format supports.

 

Either it's just telling you what you want to hear or it's being limited due to a DMA issue or something

[Downdude]

It starts out at 2.4x speed and then it slows down. I saw it drop as low as 1.7x but it was on 1.9x most of the time. It took about 26 minutes. I don't know why it burns slower than 2.4x with nero but slower is probably better than faster for these old discs. Oh and btw, thanks for making such a great burning app! I use it for everything except making audio cds from mp3s.

 

part of the nero log:

 

8:04:07 AM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 8372

Drive: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B

Book Type request [TSST]: DVD-ROM

Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

 

8:04:07 AM #20 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6477

Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

 

8:04:07 AM #21 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 675

Start write address at LBA 0

DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

 

8:04:07 AM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 269

Pipe memory size 83836800

 

8:30:12 AM #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113

<U: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2000390 (1E8606h), length 0 blocks

 

8:30:35 AM #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 935

EndDAO: Last written address 2000400

 

8:30:35 AM #25 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762

Burn process completed successfully at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

[volvofl10]

I use it for everything except making audio cds from mp3s.

 

why not use it for audio cd's from mp3's ?? it does work

[Downdude]

If it converts mp3 files directly into CD Audio format to play in a normal CD Player I have no idea how you are supposed to do that. I didn't even think that build mode worked for burning cdr. So how would someone go about doing this?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

The program works for any media, regardless of which mode you're in.

 

There's an Audio CD guide in the Guides section.

[Downdude]

Sweet!!! I think I'll have to make a donation now.

Ok, donation sent. You really earned your money this time.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Downdude

[eXPerience]

I have the same problem here!!

 

the program detects my DVD+DL media as 4x and 6x, but the real max speed is 2.4

 

I select 2.4x on the program but it writes at 4x.

I think that the program can't force lower speeds, I tested on 2 drives, same problem on both of them.

the result is a broken DVD.

 

sorry I have no log saved, and I don't want to break more DVD+DL, they are too expensive.

 

is there any way to real force the 2.4 speed??

thx. a lot and sorry for my English.

 

EDIT: ok, dam it, Nero suite detects the same write speed.

so, I think it's a firmware problem.

but, in DVDinfoPro appears that manufacturer Speed is unknown, so the speed is defined by the Drive, on an older DVD-Writter appears at 2.4 Speed, but it's the max speed for the DVD+DL supported by the drive.

 

Can I force the speed? because if I select 2.4x the new drivers writes the DVDs at 4x.

Edited July 3, 2008 by eXPerience

[LIGHTNING UK!]

You can't force a drive to do anything.

 

ImgBurn is already asking it to burn at 2.4x if that's what you've selected. It can't do any more than that.

[eXPerience]

You can't force a drive to do anything.

 

ImgBurn is already asking it to burn at 2.4x if that's what you've selected. It can't do any more than that.

 

ok, thx.

[techman]

so you tried using the automatic write speed and set it to 2.4x? You need to set write speed to automatic on that media after you add it too.