snowman Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I have some Hi quality flacs, 88KHz & 24bps, if memory serves. With a little trouble I got ImgBurn to make a music CD using DCBassSourceSetup.exe In fact, this seems to be the ONLY filter/plugin that works with ImgBurn for me. (XP SP2) All went well, but the third & subsequent tracks on music CD had a hi rate "skipping" I tried several brands of hi quality Cds & burnt as low as 1X, all the results were identical. Over next several days I experimented with various filters, some would allow Mediaplayer 10, then 11 to plat flac, some would not, some would work in media player despite warning that it couldn't play flacs. Somewhere in this process I discovered that some/all ? of these filters would not let media player play songs that earlier became tracks 3 and higher. I should mention that VLC player plays all flacs flawlessly, even before any filters were added. Then I found a filter at http://www.xiph.org/dshow/ - Directshow Filters for Ogg Vorbis, Speex, Theora and FLAC this filter allows all flacs, even the hi quality ones to play in media player 11 flawlessly !! I thought problem was solved, as I erroneously thought that both ImgBurn & mediaplayer use directshow, andt since mediaplayer worked, ImgBurn would too. I was shocked when ImgBurn returned the familiar message- "need direstshow filter" even though MediaPlayer worked perfectly on these hi quality flacs. I rebooted, then uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled ImgBurn, but nothing would let it use the filter that works so well in Mediaplayer. I'm at wits end, and if anyone has any ideas let me know.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 The filter needs to support converting the audio to the correct format for burning to a cd. (i.e. 44Khz, 16bit, stereo). Doesn't the madFlac filter work?
snowman Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 The filter needs to support converting the audio to the correct format for burning to a cd. (i.e. 44Khz, 16bit, stereo). Doesn't the madFlac filter work? The madflac filter APPEARS to work, that is, it lets ImgBurn work without any error messages, but resulting music CD has a hi frequencey skip or stutter, as reported in mu original message. Similarilly, this skipping is replicated in Mediaplayer, with almost all of these hi qulity flacs. VLC plays ALL Flacs that I have PERFECTLY. Ogg filter also allows all flacs to play in media player 11 perfectly, but ImgBurn is left out in the cold. i.e even with Ogg filter installed & working in Mediaplayer 11, ImgBurn still gives "need directshow filter" error. I believe I got this error with every filter that I tried to get to work with ImgBurn, except the madFlac one. Thanks for your interest.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 You should go an post in the madFlac thread at the doom9 forum telling its author about the issue. It's not something I can solve in ImgBurn. GraphEdit is the closest you'll get to the raw directshow methods ImgBurn uses for conversion to a CD-DA compatible format. Compare against that rather than mediaplayer if you really need to.
snowman Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 You should go an post in the madFlac thread at the doom9 forum telling its author about the issue. It's not something I can solve in ImgBurn. GraphEdit is the closest you'll get to the raw directshow methods ImgBurn uses for conversion to a CD-DA compatible format. Compare against that rather than mediaplayer if you really need to. SORRY, I became confused and gave you an incorrect answer. The only filter that I could get to work with ImgBurn was DCBassSourceSetup.exe . While madFlac sounded familiar, I cannot be sure that it was among those that I tried. I went to the doom9 forum and read some of his posts, I have downloaded filter v 1.8 and will try later. THANKS BTW, I cannot tell you how much I love ImgBurn. I rant about it to all my friends. I think its fantastic. Might be nice if I could save a complete image file of an audio CD, so that I know that the problem is not related to prepossessing problems, trying to keep up to burn rate.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Do make sure you're using 2.4.2.0 before trying the madflac one though.
snowman Posted February 18, 2009 Author Posted February 18, 2009 Thank you for your help. This may be the last word on this for the time being. Just to summarize: All results are only observed on my own computer. (Please correct me where I am obviously wrong) 1- Directshow filters that make Media player recognize flacs are of the form filename.dll 2-Directshow filters that allow ImgBurn to handle flacs are of the form filename.ax 3- Although I only have a few flacs, there does not appear to be a significant problem in either Media player or ImgBurn with most flacs 4-A group of recently downloaded 24bps and 88KHz created problems. A couple of these were no more problematic than any other flac, although I did not confirm the bps or KHz of these two. The problematic flacs would not be recognized in ImgBurn i.e. would generate the need dirctshow filter warning and in addition would NOT play properly in Mediaplayer although other flacs would correctly play. VLC plays these and all flacs I have flawlessly. 5- There is NO plugin/filter that I could find that would allow these problematic to be burnt without skipping in ImgBurn. In fact, DCBassSourceSetup.exe is the only filter that was able to avoid the directshow filter warning. 6- The only filter that I could find that allowed Media Player to play these files flawlessly was filter at http://www.xiph.org/dshow/ - Directshow Filters for Ogg Vorbis, Speex, Theora and FLAC Clearly, this is not a problem with ImgBurn and my main reson for these messages was that I was wondering if the filters that work for media player could somehow be made to work in ImgBurn, thru some registry magic that only the creator might know. I have since observed that the respective types of filters have a much different form. I suppose time will tell whether my problem was related to a rogue type of flac, or to their hi bps & MHz . If the later then I expect filters to handle these hi quality flac will become commonplace. VLC and the OGG filter people seem to have a handle on this as their products play these flacs flawlessly. Thank you again and sorry to distract you from you more important work.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 If you've mentioned to the authors of the madFlac / xiph filters that they won't load/convert your flac files to CDDA type audio, there is nothing more you (we) can do except wait for a fix.
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