PhilJW Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Can anyone help me with this? I am trying to burn AVCHD discs which are too large to go on a SL DVD. I've tried burning them to a DVD+R DL and then play them on my Panasonic 220 bluray player. The first layer plays fine but when it gets to the layer change it freezes and wont play. Looking through these forums I have checked the book type of the discs and the first layer shows as a DVD+R DL and the second as a DVD-ROM. Is this the problem? I have also checked a regular DVD burnt to a DVD+R DL disc and I have the same problem. I have a Pioneer burner and cannot see how to change the book type in the ImgBurn settings. Even if I could do I change it so that both layers are DVD-ROM or both layers are DVD+R DL? I have never had any problems with SL AVCHD or regular DVDs before and they seem to work fine. All my SL discs show they are DVD-ROM. Any help much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I don't know anything about booktype settings. In fact, I didn't even know that each layer HAD an individual booktype setting so that one layer could be set one way and one layer another. LUK will have to answer that. As for what knowledge I can import, problems at the layer change are fairly common. The issue could be with either your burner or the DVD player. The DVD player may simply not like that Disc ID manufacturer and the laser can't read the 2nd layer. The burner may also not like that media. It may have successfully completed the burn but it doesn't mean it did it well. Is this your first time burning DVD+R DL discs? If not, have you had success burning that Disc ID before and playing them in your DVD player? Post the log of the burn and verify of this disc that is failing. Under Help, choose ImgBurn Logs to load the log file folder. Open the log file there and find the burn. If you haven't done any other operations in ImgBurn, the log will be right at the top of the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilJW Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hi The burn doesn't appear to fail - its just the playback that doesn't work and stops at the same point on the 3 discs I've tried. I 15:47:49 Operation Started!I 15:47:49 Source File: F:\Music Pictures\Pink Floyd\WYWH AVCHD.mdsI 15:47:49 Source File Sectors: 2,438,976 (MODE1/2048)I 15:47:49 Source File Size: 4,995,022,848 bytesI 15:47:49 Source File Volume Identifier: AVCHDI 15:47:49 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4A256B18002536C0I 15:47:49 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0I 15:47:49 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurnI 15:47:49 Source File File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 15:47:49 Destination Device: [0:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD11RS 1.01 (D:) (ATAPI)I 15:47:49 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)I 15:47:49 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6xI 15:47:49 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824I 15:47:49 Destination Media L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 (Changeable: Yes)I 15:47:49 Write Mode: DVDI 15:47:49 Write Type: DAOI 15:47:49 Write Speed: MAXI 15:47:49 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: NoI 15:47:49 Link Size: AutoI 15:47:49 Lock Volume: YesI 15:47:49 Test Mode: NoI 15:47:50 OPC: NoI 15:47:50 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 15:47:50 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,310 KB/s (6x)I 15:47:50 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,219,488I 15:47:50 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block BoundaryI 15:47:50 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!I 15:47:50 L0 Data Zone Capacity - Effective: 1,219,488I 15:47:50 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)I 15:47:52 Writing LeadIn...I 15:48:37 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2438975)I 15:48:37 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2438975)I 15:48:37 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1219487)I 15:56:28 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1219488 - 2438975)I 16:04:17 Synchronising Cache...I 16:04:20 Closing Track...I 16:04:31 Finalising Disc...I 16:05:29 Exporting Graph Data...I 16:05:29 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Phil\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVRTD11RS_1.01_05-JANUARY-2017_15-47_MKM-003-00_MAX.ibgI 16:05:29 Export Successfully Completed!I 16:05:29 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:17:39I 16:05:29 Average Write Rate: 5,194 KiB/s (3.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,464 KiB/s (4.0x)I 16:05:29 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 16:05:42 Waiting for device to become ready...I 16:06:04 Device Ready!I 16:06:10 Operation Started!I 16:06:10 Source Device: [0:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTD11RS 1.01 (D:) (ATAPI)I 16:06:10 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00)I 16:06:10 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8xI 16:06:10 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6xI 16:06:10 Source Media Sectors: 2,438,976 (Track Path: OTP - L0: 1,219,488 - L1: 1,219,488)I 16:06:10 Source Media Size: 4,995,022,848 bytesI 16:06:10 Image File: F:\Music Pictures\Pink Floyd\WYWH AVCHD.mdsI 16:06:10 Image File Sectors: 2,438,976 (MODE1/2048)I 16:06:10 Image File Size: 4,995,022,848 bytesI 16:06:10 Image File Volume Identifier: AVCHDI 16:06:10 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 4A256B18002536C0I 16:06:10 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0I 16:06:11 Image File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurnI 16:06:11 Image File File System(s): UDF (2.50)I 16:06:11 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 16:06:12 Read Speed - Effective: 3.3x - 8x, 8x - 3.3xI 16:06:12 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2438975)I 16:06:12 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2438975)I 16:06:12 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1219487)I 16:12:18 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1219488 - 2438975)W 16:12:24 Failed to Read Sectors 1220032 - 1220063 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable ErrorW 16:12:34 Failed to Read Sector 1220036 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 16:12:34 Sector 1220036 maps to File: \BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2tsW 16:12:36 Retrying (1)...W 16:12:42 Retry Failed - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 16:12:44 Failed to Read Sector 1220036 - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 16:12:44 Sector 1220036 maps to File: \BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2tsE 16:12:45 Failed to Verify Sectors!I 16:12:46 Exporting Graph Data...I 16:12:46 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Phil\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVRTD11RS_1.01_05-JANUARY-2017_15-47_MKM-003-00_MAX.ibgI 16:12:46 Export Successfully Completed!E 16:12:46 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:06:34I 16:12:46 Average Verify Rate: 6,224 KiB/s (4.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 8,849 KiB/s (6.5x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Something went wrong with the burn. I 16:12:18 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1219488 - 2438975)W 16:12:24 Failed to Read Sectors 1220032 - 1220063 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable ErrorW 16:12:34 Failed to Read Sector 1220036 - Reason: No Seek CompleteW 16:12:34 Sector 1220036 maps to File: \BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2tsW 16:12:36 Retrying (1)...W 16:12:42 Retry Failed - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 16:12:44 Failed to Read Sector 1220036 - Reason: No Seek CompleteE 16:12:44 Sector 1220036 maps to File: \BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2tsE 16:12:45 Failed to Verify Sectors! The Verify failed, so the burn didn't write correctly, it seems. It seems to have failed at the layer change? It failed to read the contents on the 2nd layer, so that's probably why your DVD player can't play it. The burn didn't complete correctly. Either at the layer change or the 2nd layer itself wasn't burned correctly. Is this your first time burning DVD+R DL? If you've successfully burned them before, then your drive probably needs replacing. When drives fail at the layer break during a burn, it's either because your drive is dying or it doesn't like the discs it's trying to burn to. You're using Verbatim MKM media, which is the only reliable media out there. So, it's not like you're using cheap discs that fail all the time. So, it would seem either your drive doesn't like MKM media or it needs replacing. What kind of DVD+R DL are you using? Are you using inkjet printable surface? I've noticed you're using a Pioneer drive. I've learned from experience with Pioneer Blu-Ray burners that Verbatim DVD+R DL that were branded burned fine in them but Verbatim DVD+R DL that were inkjet printable surface, even though the Disc ID's were the SAME, failed in the drive until a firmware update came out that fixed the issue. Try to see if there's a firmware update for your drive. I looked and couldn't find your drive listed, so it may not have one. In Write mode, right click on the drive in the drop down list for targets to write to and select update firmware. Also, I fail to see how your DVD+R DL even plays at the first layer. You're apparently not burning VIDEO_TS contents. You said you were burning AVCHD content and your log mentions an M2TS file. This indicates me to me some kind of Blu-Ray content. Maybe these are files you're burning to disc that your player supports playback of? Because, natively, a player won't playback DVD+R DL DVD video contents unless they're on DVD media, a VIDEO_TS with a DVD recordable disc. So, unless your player supports native playback of .M2TS files, your player shouldn't be playing anything on DVD+R DL because you're not putting VIDEO_TS on it. If you're putting Blu-Ray contents on it, then you must use a Blu-Ray disc. However, if you're putting container files on the DVD+R DL and your player supports that format of container file for playback, natively, it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilJW Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 So Ive done some playing over the last couple of days as I borrowed a laptop from a friend and used that to burn the exact same images. All discs are Verbatim Printable - both SL and DL. Pioneer DVD-RW DVRTD11RS (the original burner used) SL DVD Burns and plays fine DL DVD Burns, fails on verify and only plays to the layer change when it freezes SL AVCHD Burns and plays fine DL AVCHD Burns, fails on verify and only plays to the layer change when it freezes Matshita -DVD-RAM UJ8FBS 1.00 SL DVD Burns and plays fine DL DVD Burns and plays fine SL AVCHD Burns and plays fine DL AVCHD Burns and plays fine All desks tested on both laptops and a Panasonic 220 Bluray player. All results on playback were the same. Can this be explained? Is it the fact that I'm using printable discs or could there be another issue? My Pioneer writer has never burned DL disc successfully from new so as far as I can see if I ever want to burn a DL disc my Pioneer is useless unless I can get it fixed. Can anybody help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Have you only tried burning at 'MAX' speed (6x) with the Pioneer? Maybe try the remaining 2 supported speeds (2x and 4x) to see if it does a better job of burning the discs. If it still can't produce a readable disc at either of those, you'll have to invest in another drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The only way you'll tell if it's the inkjet DL media causing the problem is to get a Verbatim DataLife Plus branded surface disc online and see if the problem repeats. If it repeats, then there's either something wrong with the drive or that drive does not like MKM Disc ID discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilJW Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Will try both (non-printable and slower speed) and report back. Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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