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Got my first BD-RE DL today. I fully erased it and got 2 Warning notices in the log. Thought I'd pass along the log and see if it's something that needs to be addressed: I 17:06:04 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 17:06:04 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) I 17:06:04 Total Physical Memory: 8,370,632 KiB - Available: 5,838,284 KiB I 17:06:04 Initialising SPTI... I 17:06:04 -> Drive 5 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209M 1.10-ID60 (S:) (SATA) I 17:07:07 Operation Started! I 17:07:07 Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209M 1.10 (S:) (SATA) I 17:07:07 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM1-000) I 17:07:07 Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x I 17:07:07 Quick Erase: No I 17:07:07 Format Properly: Yes I 17:07:07 Format Size: Preferred I 17:07:07 Format With Full Certification: Yes I 17:07:07 Format Without Spare Areas: Yes I 17:07:07 Erasing Disc... W 17:07:07 FormatDisc(FT: 0x31, FST: 0x02) Not Supported! W 17:07:07 FormatDisc(FT: 0x31, FST: 0x03) Not Supported! I 17:07:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:24 I 17:07:32 Operation Started! I 17:07:32 Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209M 1.10 (S:) (SATA) I 17:07:32 Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: VERBAT-IM1-000) I 17:07:32 Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x I 17:07:32 Media Sectors: 24,438,784 I 17:07:32 BD-RE FastWrite: No I 17:07:32 Zeroing Sectors... I 18:41:29 Synchronising Cache... I 18:41:33 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:33:57 - Total Duration: 01:34:22 I 18:41:33 Average Write Rate: 8,670 KiB/s (2.0x)

Well, I received and formatted by Verbatim BD-RE DL in my Pioneer Blu-Ray rewritable drive. It took Total Duration: 01:34:22. Now, depending on what you changed in the settings, I could see it taking twice as long as it did for me as it did for you.

Actually, I just now discovered by accidentally pressing my Caps Lock key that there is a barely visible until it illuminates light! The other Locks don't do this. They should, though!

I ordered a Verbatim BD-RE DL today. It should be here within 8 days. I'll then format it and post how long it took me to do it using the default options for ImgBurn, unchanged.

Well, the CMC Magentics may be a problem. CMC Magnetics makes some of the worst optical media out there. I had some from when Optodisc switched from making their own DVD-R's. Half of their 200 cake stacks would not complete a burn. Half of those that did would not complete a Verify! I don't trust CMC as far as I can throw them! When I discover CMC in the MID of a media I'm unfamiliar with, I send them back. Even Verbatim outsources their CD-R to CMC. Now, CMC sometimes make a DVD+R that seems to be okay. However, given their track record with other optical media, I still wouldn't trust them. I get my media online. Taiyo Yuden or TDK CD-R's, Memorex Mitsubishi MCC CD-RW's, and Verbatim DVD-R, DVD+R DL, BD-R, and BD-RE, and Memorex/Ritek BD-RE. The funny thing is Memorex is mostly crap, outsourcing their DVD-R and CD-R's to CMC. But, their DVD+R is pretty good and their 24x CD-RW's are outsourced to one of the best makers of optical media out there, MCC, Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation.

Thanks! The first one does what I need. Not the best way but it works well enough that I don't need to try the others out.

So, the ID part of the firmware version string is the Kernel Version? Mine being 60 and the firmware revision I thought was newer, being ID59, isn't my drive.

Odd. ImgBurn says my Pioneer drive is a BDR-209M. The check for firmware updates in ImgBurn shows a listing in its master list of drive strings for BDR-209M. But, the utility doesn't update the firmware. It appears to be a newer firmware, 1.02 versus 1.01, although the ID part at the end of 1 less than mine.

I have a wireless keyboard powered by batteries. As such, there have reduced the number of indicator lights to one, the power level. I need an app I can run that will tell me what the status of the Caps Lock, Num Lock, and Scroll Lock keys are. I can check the Caps Lock one fairly easily by typing in the Search field in the Start menu and see if the letters are upper or lower case. However, I can't think of a way to check the other 2 keys without some kind of app that does it. I tried Googling some search terms but all the hits I found were for API and C code to check the status of the keys. No app I can run to do it. Can anyone recommend such a utility I can run in Windows 7. Freeware, of course. Thanks!

Yeah, I've only gotten about 14x at the tail end of a Verify on a DVD-5.

You know? I never even bothered to think that's it's most fair to compare 1x to 1x. I do wonder, though, why BD-RE verified at a much faster read rate than the DVD+RW did.

Drive Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209M 1.10-ID60 (SATA) Image Size: 4,591,452,160 bytes 8x Ridata/Ricoh/Ritek DVD+RW Destination Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-W21-01) Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 3.3x, 6x, 8x Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x) Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:50 Average Write Rate: 9,964 KiB/s (7.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 10,935 KiB/s (8.1x) Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 12x Read Speed - Effective: 5x - 12x Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:28 Average Verify Rate: 11,616 KiB/s (8.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,765 KiB/s (12.4x) 2x Memorex/Ritek BD-RE Destination Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: RITEK-BW1-001) Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:51 Average Write Rate: 8,672 KiB/s (2.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,826 KiB/s (2.0x) Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 10x Read Speed - Effective: 4.1x - 10x Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:36 Average Verify Rate: 20,952 KiB/s (4.8x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 25,283 KiB/s (5.8x) Interesting. For larger image sizes, the DVD+RW was 1 minute and 1 second faster than the BD-RE. So, LUK, you were right. For LARGER image sizes, that is. Equally interesting, the Verify took almost twice as long on the DVD+RW versus the BD-RE.

I decided to redo this test to make it a little more "fair." I used a CD image file size that was larger so the write times for CD-RW and DVD+RW would reach their graduated maximum speeds. Drive Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-209M 1.10-ID60 (SATA) Image Size: 663,814,144 bytes 24x Memorex/MCC CD-RW Source Media Type: CD-RW (Disc ID: 97m34s24f, Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.) Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x) Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:03:48 Average Write Rate: 3,193 KiB/s (18.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,637 KiB/s (21.1x) Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 24x Read Speed - Effective: 24x Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:17 Average Verify Rate: 2,532 KiB/s (14.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 3,664 KiB/s (21.3x) 8x Ridata/Ricoh/Ritek DVD+RW Destination Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-W21-01) Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 3.3x, 6x, 8x Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:51 Average Write Rate: 7,283 KiB/s (5.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 10,903 KiB/s (8.1x) Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 12x Read Speed - Effective: 5x - 12x Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:30 Average Verify Rate: 7,366 KiB/s (5.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 9,070 KiB/s (6.7x) 2x Memorex/Ritek BD-RE Destination Media Type: BD-RE (Disc ID: RITEK-BW1-001) Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,990 KB/s (2x) Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:29 Average Write Rate: 8,529 KiB/s (1.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,817 KiB/s (2.0x) Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 10x Read Speed - Effective: 4.1x - 10x Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:43 Average Verify Rate: 15,434 KiB/s (3.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 19,512 KiB/s (4.4x) The results were relatively still the same. The write on BD-RE was 22 seconds faster. Now, for the sake of fairness, the DVD+RW didn't really write at 8x for very long. Only a few seconds. So, I'm going to rerun the DVD+RW and BD-RE tests with a 4 GB ISO, nearer the maximum of a DVD and see.

Well, they make claims ranging from like 30 to 100 years, so I wouldn't believe any of them. I have some DVD-R's I burned in 2002 that are still readable today. It also depends on the quality of the discs you buy. I had a Vanguard DVD-R, before I knew they were a cheap manufacturer, that was unreadable after a year. As for storage conditions, I only know of 2 things to do. Keep out of sunlight and away from heat. Store in low humidity.

TDK LightScribe CD-R's have also been discontinued by the manufacturer. So, yeah, I'd think it's safe to say that LightScribe is dead.

Concentrate your fire on those Super Star Destroyers!

I plan on getting my first BD-RE DL soon, within a week to a month. It will be a Verbatim one, formatted in my Pioneer, with the default settings for BD-RE DL formatting. I'll post here how long mine takes.

The size of the rescue media disc or the HDD I was attempting to try to load the image file from? The HDD is a 3 TB USB 3.0 HDD I have connected to a USB 2.0 port. The drive is partitioned off into several partitions, using about 2.5 GB of the available space.

Last year's version's recovery environment still didn't recognize my external USB HDD.

Is there a way to change the folder location for Chrome profile data like there is in Firefox, with Firefox's Profile Manager?

TrueImage itself works fine. It's the recovery environment that doesn't. 2011 was the last version where the recovery environment worked right. It either won't detect USB HDD's or it did but when it actually started recovery from a USB HDD, it would conveniently forget the drive was there, rendering the file inaccessible and thus impossible to restore from. The drive remains gone until restarting the environment, only to repeat the process. I haven't tried the 2014 version, but last year's version did the same thing the past versions did. So, I don't hold out any hope enough to try a trial and see.

Use one that works right like Macrium Reflect.

I'd leave it on. I've found that when my drives fail, more often than not, they complete Writes successfully, but fail during Verify. Failing Verify at 50% sounds like it's failing at the layer change on a multilayer media. When my drives failed, it would often fail at the layer change on DVD+R DL during a Verify.

Well, now this is just silly! There is a quadruple layer BD-R but it's a freaking 128 GB! None of that makes any sense!

I did a little searching on Amazon.com. Seems that the 100 GB BD-R are triple layer and that XL refers to triple layer media, not quadruple layer as I thought. Apparently, there is no quadruple layer BD-R. I just thought it would be since it's 100 GB and each layer is 25 GB. So, it just made sense. Shame on me for using logic! After all, a double layer is 50 and so a triple layer should obviously be 100 GB! So, is each layer a 33.3 GB layer? Or is it something like 2 single layers and 1 double layer?