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There is one reason to buy DVD+R over DVD-R even if it does set the book type to DVD-ROM. DVD+R is SLIGHTLY larger. So, you can create a DVD that is nearly full but it will only fit to a DVD+R and not a DVD-R. That's why I switched from DVD-R to DVD+R. I may have to switch back to DVD-R to get the WH16NS60 to play right IF it doesn't choke on the MCC DVD-R like it does on the MCC DVD+R.

I forget if it's my LG WH16NS60 or my Pioneer BDR-212, but one of those two drives doesn't support book type setting while the other does. I don't know for sure, but I believe as was said some drives do it automatically and the user cannot change that behavior.

Either that or your drive only just now started to act up. Given how you've not had problems with the media before, even though it's cheap, it would seem either the manufacture of the discs was changed or your drive needs replacing and it only just now is showing up that it needs such. However, it seems highly unlikely they'd change the manufacturing process of discs right in the middle of a cake stack of discs that did work. If you still get failures on Verbatim discs, then you do know it's your drive that needs replacing. So, your best bet is probably, at this point, to invest is some good quality Verbatim BD-R DL's and see if the problem persists. If it does, the drive probably needs replacing.

Probably best to start a new topic on the book type setting so that LUK can better see it.

Does Power2Go make just data discs and not just audio and video? I also don't think I have it. I don't see it anywhere available in my Start Menu. Plus, it wouldn't be version 12 as I had version 10 of the Media Suite installed.

That's why I used 2 different USB enclosures, in case it might have been the enclosure that had gone bad. Why I used both my 2 WH16NS60's and my Pioneer, to make sure it also wasn't the enclosure. Why I also changed ports on the USB hub, changed USB hubs, and changed the USB port on the PC itself. To isolate what it could be. Because the only thing that had changed was the DVD+R's and because they worked on the BU LG and the Pioneer BDR-212, it had to be a conflict with the DVD+R's and the WH16NS60. The only thing that had changed was a new stack of DVD+R's. And CMC had just recently bought the company. So, either CMC made the change or Verbatim did before CMC bought them. QED. Actually, I don't know what else I'd use to test to burn discs with. I only have ImgBurn. Nero would be the only other thing I know to use, but I don't have a license for it. Windows, I think, can natively burn ISO's but I don't think it says how fast it is burning them. The big secret of burning discs is it's always down to the drive. You can insert a 16x DVD recordable disc that your drive supports writing at 16x, but the drive many only, for reasons unknown, decide to write at 8x for that one particular write. And it's also down to the write strategies in the firmware of the drive for what speed you'll get when writing discs. So, again, it's also down to the drive. The drive is always the biggest factor in performance, which also includes the maximum write speed you'll get. For instance, my internal LG will write 8x to 8x DVD+RW... but only for the last 30 seconds! Technically, it's writing at 8x, but really, what use is that? And, before that, you don't even get 4x, but 3.3x. LG says there's nothing wrong with the drive, but there obviously is a need for a firmware update to properly write to this media. As for your end of the world problem, what you can do is us DVDShrink to compress the VIDEO_TS down JUST enough so that it's not nearly filling the disc. You'd have to experiment to see how much compression you'd need to get a size where ImgBurn won't error out on it.

No firmware update. Otherwise, I'd have blamed that. LG hasn't updated the firmware on the WH16NS60 in 2 years, as I said. And I doubt they will. I told them they needed to update the firmware for a production change on the MCC's; they said they'd forward it to the appropriate department. They also said the same thing when I told them 16x BD-R only write at 12x. So, we'll see if we ever actually get a firmware update.

I admit I didn't think that Verbatim itself might have changed the manufacturing process rather than CMC. But, someone changed it somewhere. I still have some left over DVD+R DL Verbatim DataLife Plus 8x inkjet discs from before I got my latest ones. I never got a chance to test them in the WH16NS60 to see if they still worked.

I'm guessing since you said this was a DVD recorder, you're trying to make a DVD Video disc? With a VIDEO_TS folder in the root directory of the disc you're trying to copy? If so, try following this guide: Toshiba is not the only one that does this. My Panasonic DVD recorders since 2002 do the same thing and can't be copied to ISO by ImgBurn. But, you can Build your own DVD Video from the contents on the disc. Even though the guide probably tells you only to copy the VIDEO_TS folder, also copy the AUDIO_TS folder and any other files and folders in the root directory of the disc you're trying to copy. The disc must have been finalized by the Toshiba DVD recorder and thus playable on any DVD player in order for this to work.

The only rational explanation is that CMC changed the manufacturing process. They can't be a bad batch because then they'd fail on both LG models and the Pioneer. They're only failing on 2 WH16NS60's, which indicates a bad firmware/media combination problem. They worked fine on the last batch and suddenly stop working when CMC has bought the company? LG would have recommended Verbatim back when Verbatim was a known quantity. After the CMC buy out, it's not. It's always possible Verbatim itself made the change in the process instead of CMC. Verbatim might have made the change mid run. Either way, the only plausible explanation that fits all the given data was the DVD+R's were changed somehow. And they can't be a bad batch as I said because then they'd fail on the LG internal and the Pioneer. Firmware/media combination problems are not unique. Pioneer used to have a bug in its firmware where the same disc ID was on both the branded and inkjet Verbatim MKM DVD+R DL's of the same write speed. However, the inkjet ones would always fail but the branded ones wouldn't. Pioneer eventually fixed this in a firmware update.

That V was a typo. If you look at my previous use, I spelled it with a v.

It's not the Verify, actually, it's the writing process on the WH16NS60. If I Verify manually in my internal LG, which isn't one of the NS60's, it also fails right at the start. So, the data is not being written properly to the media. The conclusion I've reached is that CMC HAS changed the manufacturing process of the MCC's so that the WH16NS60 does NOT like them, but the LG BU40N does. I tried 2 different NS60's in two different USB enclosures on 2 different ports on 2 different USB hubs and on its own dedicated USB port on the PC that is not one of the 2 USB hub ports, and it always failed. I put in my Pioneer in the same enclosure that started failing and it works! The only common denominator is the MCC discs. The reason the Verbatim discs were working before is they were of the few cake stack ones I had bought back before CMC bought Verbatim. The only rational explanation based on the available data is the MCC discs are to blame and they're only problematic with the WH16NS60. On the BU40N and Pioneer BDR-212U, the first internal and the 2nd in the USB enclosure I've been using for months, these same discs work. And I'm now starting on the most recent MCC's I bought. So, the only conclusion I can draw is that CMC changed the manufacturing process of DataLife Plus MCC DVD+R's so that the WH16NS60 doesn't like them anymore. The only solution for that is for LG to release a firmware update for the WH16NS60 to address this, and that looks highly unlikely as they haven't update the NS60 firmware in nearly 2 years! In the meantime, I'll have to use the Pioneer BDR-212U, but I can't use 8x Ritek DVD+RW on those until Pioneer fixes the firmware, which they won't as they haven't addressed this issue in 2 years! So, I'll have to use some really old Office Depot Ritek 4x DVD-RW. So, I still recommend you perform some test burns on these discs you bought, Ch3Vr0n. Then perform a manual Verify on them. There's even no need to Verify against image file contents. Verify will fail either right away or shortly after right away because the data can't be read at all because it isn't being written to them right. Which is a firmware/media combination conflict. As long as you're not using an LG WH16NS60, you're probably fine, but best to make sure on whatever your preferred hardware is.

Ch3vr0n, be SURE to test some of those Verbatim DVD's you got! I can't nail it down yet, but, so far, I'm getting multiple failures on my new stack of DVD+R. However, I can't necessarily nail down it's the discs. For instance, they always fail Verify on my external drives. I've swapped in 2 WH16NS60's in 2 different USB enclosures on different USB hub ports. They're always failing on DVD+R BUT will PASS on DVD+RW. And these DVD+R are passing on my internal LG BD burner. So, I can't nail down what the cause is on my end. But, you should test some of these discs in your new order, just to be sure CMC didn't actually make them and just slapped MCC on them. I restored my PC back to an image made the day before my last DVD+R worked in an external burner. Still failed. I put in a left over branded DVD-R in my external drive and it worked fine on the same image. However, those DVD-R were bought a long time ago. So, for whatever reason, (God problem.) my system won't write these DVD+R's in the external burners but will in the internal burners. If it were bad CMC discs, you'd think it would fail in both the internal LG and the external LG, even though they are different models. I'll know more when I switch back to inkjet printable DVD-R and see if they work. Got to get some of those. If those fail, then the most likely culprit is CMC changed the formula for these MCC DVD+R and that's why they're failing.

Looks like there's another new ConvertXToDVD beta. 7.0.0.68 Beta. Nothing major. In fact, only one change made to actual operation of the software. [Bug] Preview with subtitles -> Crashing [Feature Request] [VSORep] “app will be closed” warning issued during install/reinstall process [Feature Request] [VSORep] error message if Internet-OFF

I wonder how easy it would be. I've never heard of a DDP file before, so it's probably a proprietary format. Meaning, a license would have to be paid for in order to incorporate it. Sort of like why Nero's .NRG, I believe, is not supported.

ImgBurn can create images from virtual drives. There are supposedly virtual burners that work, but the only I was able to try, I forget which one, because it was free failed miserably to write an image file to the virtual burner. Failed right away, within like the first attempted sector. What exactly do you want ImgBurn to do with a virtual disc drive?

I would say it's stored in the same place as all the other ImgBurn software settings. In the Registry. Particularly, this branch: Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ImgBurn However, there's a lot of settings there, so finding it may not be easy. Perhaps, LUK can pinpoint where it is.

The only reason I upgraded is because my last 4 year old Dell was having some kind of HDD thrashing problem. Could probably have been fixed by just swapping out the HDD, but after 4 years of advances, I wanted to take advantage of them and pulled the trigger on an entirely new rig.

For the audio, you've got a freebie installed on your Windows PC in the form of Windows Media Player. Another freebie which has a wide variety of functions is Apple's iTunes. I'd use the former still if Microsoft hadn't screwed up Windows 10 so much with a massively stupid bug they refuse to address that only manifests itself in extremely unlikely scenarios but ones I encountered that prevent me from even using the software.

I'd build my own rig if my big ass hands were up to working in such tiny spaces. Even tower models aren't as spacious as I need for working around inside of. One of the drawbacks of being 6 foot 6 and a half. You have these massive hands. I only got a Dell because the only thing I could find in town besides HP, and I know from experience never to buy an HP product, was Dell. That was 2011, and ever since then, I've just stuck with Dells. Granted, each one has been "worse" than the last. Still, there's worse and then there's downright unacceptable. e.g. HP.

Wow, that new Dell XPS 8930 I got last year is now reduced by $400!

Got my DVD+R DL's. They are the quality DataLife Plus stuff from Mitsubishi! At least according to the MID. MID: MKM-003-00 Which can always be faked, of course.

That's good to know about CMC buying up Taiyo Yuden. I hadn't heard any stories, positive or negative, about TY quality since the buyout by JVC/CMC.

I've got 3 packages scheduled for delivery today. Here's HOPING the USPS delivers them all to the RIGHT house! Two of them are imported items, so if they get delivered to the wrong house, it will be a real pisser!

My DVD+R DL's are already out for delivery today. So, I should know some time later today.