Grain
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Haven't come across any MBIL Indian media yet, apparently it's a little better than I'd have thought. Just wait, and mark my words, in a year or two that's all that will be out there.
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PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (ATA) @8X Media Information: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD-R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,297,888 Free Space: 4,706,074,624 bytes Free Time: 510:40:38 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x Pre-recorded Information: Manufacturer ID: MXL RG03 Recording Management Area Information: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Book Type: DVD-R Part Version: 5 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Results: I 22:52:12 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started! I 22:52:12 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 22:52:12 Initialising SPTI... I 22:52:12 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:52:12 Found 2 DVD?RWs and 2 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 22:52:21 Operation Started! I 22:52:21 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 22:52:21 Source File Sectors: 2,297,888 (MODE1/2048) I 22:52:21 Source File Size: 4,706,074,624 bytes I 22:52:21 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 22:52:21 Source File File System(s): None I 22:52:21 Destination Device: [0:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (E:) (ATA) I 22:52:21 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MXL RG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x) I 22:52:21 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 22:52:21 Write Mode: DVD I 22:52:21 Write Type: DAO I 22:52:21 Write Speed: 8x I 22:52:21 Link Size: Auto I 22:52:21 Test Mode: No I 22:52:21 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 22:52:22 Filling Buffer... I 22:52:22 Writing LeadIn... I 22:52:41 Writing Image... I 23:00:12 Synchronising Cache... I 23:00:22 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:00:22 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-111L_8.29_10-25-2006_MXL_RG03_8x_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 23:00:22 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:00:22 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:00 I 23:00:22 Average Write Rate: 10,212 KB/s (7.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,180 KB/s (8.1x) I 23:00:22 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 23:01:06 Device Ready! I 23:01:06 Operation Started! I 23:01:06 Source Device: [0:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (E:) (ATA) I 23:01:06 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MXL RG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x) I 23:01:06 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:01:06 Image File Sectors: 2,297,888 (MODE1/2048) I 23:01:06 Image File Size: 4,706,074,624 bytes I 23:01:06 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:01:06 Image File File System(s): None I 23:01:07 Verifying Sectors... I 23:07:32 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:07:32 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-111L_8.29_10-25-2006_MXL_RG03_8x_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 23:07:32 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:07:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:22 I 23:07:32 Average Verify Rate: 12,062 KB/s (8.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,448 KB/s (12.6x) I 23:09:28 Close Request Acknowledged I 23:09:28 Closing Down... I 23:09:28 Shutting down SPTI... I 23:09:28 ImgBurn closed!
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PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (ATA) Media Information: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD-R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,297,888 Free Space: 4,706,074,624 bytes Free Time: 510:40:38 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x Pre-recorded Information: Manufacturer ID: MXL RG03 Recording Management Area Information: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Book Type: DVD-R Part Version: 5 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Results: I 20:46:03 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started! I 20:46:03 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 20:46:03 Initialising SPTI... I 20:46:03 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:46:23 Found 2 DVD?RWs and 2 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 20:47:37 Operation Started! I 20:47:37 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:47:37 Source File Sectors: 2,297,888 (MODE1/2048) I 20:47:37 Source File Size: 4,706,074,624 bytes I 20:47:37 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 20:47:37 Source File File System(s): None I 20:47:37 Destination Device: [0:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (E:) (ATA) I 20:47:37 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MXL RG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x) I 20:47:37 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 20:47:37 Write Mode: DVD I 20:47:37 Write Type: DAO I 20:47:37 Write Speed: MAX I 20:47:37 Link Size: Auto I 20:47:37 Test Mode: No I 20:47:37 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:47:38 Filling Buffer... I 20:47:38 Writing LeadIn... I 20:48:00 Writing Image... I 20:54:45 Synchronising Cache... I 20:54:55 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:54:55 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-111L_8.29_10-24-2006_MXL_RG03_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 20:54:55 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:54:55 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:17 I 20:54:55 Average Write Rate: 11,375 KB/s (8.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,374 KB/s (12.5x) I 20:54:55 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 20:55:18 Device Ready! I 20:55:18 Operation Started! I 20:55:18 Source Device: [0:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (E:) (ATA) I 20:55:18 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MXL RG03) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x) I 20:55:18 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:55:18 Image File Sectors: 2,297,888 (MODE1/2048) I 20:55:18 Image File Size: 4,706,074,624 bytes I 20:55:18 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 20:55:18 Image File File System(s): None I 20:55:18 Verifying Sectors... I 21:01:44 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:01:44 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-111L_8.29_10-24-2006_MXL_RG03_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 21:01:44 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:01:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:22 I 21:01:44 Average Verify Rate: 12,062 KB/s (8.7x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,427 KB/s (12.6x) I 21:02:33 Close Request Acknowledged I 21:02:33 Closing Down... I 21:02:33 Shutting down SPTI... I 21:02:33 ImgBurn closed!
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BENQ DVD DD DW1650 BCIC (ATA) Media Information: BENQ DVD DD DW1650 BCIC (ATA) Current Profile: DVD-R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,298,496 Free Space: 4,707,319,808 bytes Free Time: 510:48:46 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x Pre-recorded Information: Manufacturer ID: MXL RG03 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Book Type: DVD-R Part Version: 5 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Results: I 20:28:40 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started! I 20:28:40 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 20:28:40 Initialising SPTI... I 20:28:40 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:28:40 Found 2 DVD?RWs and 2 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 20:30:15 Operation Started! I 20:30:15 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:30:15 Source File Sectors: 2,298,496 (MODE1/2048) I 20:30:15 Source File Size: 4,707,319,808 bytes I 20:30:15 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 20:30:15 Source File File System(s): None I 20:30:15 Destination Device: [0:0:0] BENQ DVD DD DW1650 BCIC (D:) (ATA) I 20:30:15 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MXL RG03) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x) I 20:30:15 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 20:30:15 Write Mode: DVD I 20:30:15 Write Type: DAO I 20:30:15 Write Speed: MAX I 20:30:15 Link Size: Auto I 20:30:15 Test Mode: No I 20:30:15 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:30:16 Filling Buffer... I 20:30:16 Writing LeadIn... I 20:30:39 Writing Image... I 20:38:52 Synchronising Cache... I 20:39:21 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:39:21 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\BENQ_DVD_DD_DW1650_BCIC_10-24-2006_MXL_RG03_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 20:39:21 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:39:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:05 I 20:39:21 Average Write Rate: 9,324 KB/s (6.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,106 KB/s (8.0x) I 20:39:21 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 20:39:31 Waiting for device to become ready... I 20:39:44 Device Ready! I 20:39:44 Operation Started! I 20:39:44 Source Device: [0:0:0] BENQ DVD DD DW1650 BCIC (D:) (ATA) I 20:39:44 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MXL RG03) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 8x) I 20:39:44 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:39:44 Image File Sectors: 2,298,496 (MODE1/2048) I 20:39:44 Image File Size: 4,707,319,808 bytes I 20:39:44 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 20:39:44 Image File File System(s): None I 20:39:45 Verifying Sectors... I 20:44:54 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:44:54 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\BENQ_DVD_DD_DW1650_BCIC_10-24-2006_MXL_RG03_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 20:44:54 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:44:54 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:04 I 20:44:54 Average Verify Rate: 15,171 KB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,527 KB/s (16.3x) I 20:46:00 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:46:00 Closing Down... I 20:46:00 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:46:00 ImgBurn closed!
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Media: maxell DVD-RSS Plus Series 8X DVD-R [MXL RG03] Burnt With: BENQ DVD DD DW1650 BCIC (ATA) PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (ATA) PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111L 8.29 (ATA) @8X HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (ATA) BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (ATA) Scanned With: BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (ATA)
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Interesting, thanks for passing it along.
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Couldn't tell ya XrXca, I'm in Alberta
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If you look on the paper label that comes around the spindle, the SONY MID discs will show Made in Taiwan, and the YUDEN discs will be Made in Japan. I've had 100% success with this on Sony 1-8X -R's & 1-8X +R's.
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Unfortunately those discs are that "touchy", sometimes they work, sometimes not. They won't burn @1X as that isn't a speed rated by them, newer 16X discs often aren't rated at lower than 4X. Don't worry about O@P-!-00, some discs just show up that way. Michel Deboer's NEC firmware site show's your 1.80 firmware, so you should be fine.
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If you slow down the burn to 8X or even 4X, you "may" get them to work. Spinners advice is best though, get some better media. The good thing is, it's not really anymore money than poor, in N.A. that is anyway.
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I have an Enermax Liberty 620w in my newer computer, quiet and stable. My old Antec is a trooper though too.
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http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4392 You won't go wrong with this guy, and is easily crossflashed to a 111 or even a 111L. BestBuy calls it the DVR-710 B5BK, but that's actually just a retail version of the 111D, save yourself some money and buy an OEM version. On another note, sorry my Roughriders beat up your Argos, well no I'm not
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Hope you have a grand day Mate!!
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Your Kidding of course........ aren't you. I never knew that ! As you say then, that begs the question, if CMC can make dye for top media like Verbatim, then why the hell can't they do it for themselves. Would make more sense to capture a bigger share of the market by making good quality CMC MAG discs and selling for a bit higher price then to settle for a lower end of the market by producing cheap crappy dyes for there own labeled discs........... Afraid it's quite true. CMC makes the good Verbs, Prodisc makes some quite sketchy ones (here in NA that is, Europe has MBIL thrown in the mix). Couple ways to tell them apart, one involves the serial number stamped in the plastic near the hub on the disc itself (which of course involves buying them first), the other believe it or not involves the font used on the spindle tub lids for Lock and Open.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Strange thing is, CMC makes the good Verbatims, yet can't make a good one of their own to save their life.
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The Pioneer 111D is an excellent drive and can be found quite cheap. If you can find a BenQ 1650 or 1655 they too are excellent, and can also be used for quality scanning.
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Pioneer is showing 1.58 as the latest firmware for the 109, is yours a hacked firmware? Anyway, looks like you might just have got a bad disc, which is very rare for Verb MKM-001-00 discs, but not unheard of. If you send it back to them, they will honor their lifetime warranty and send you a replacement.
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99% of the time that's a poor media problem. If you could copy the info from the top right window (in ImgBurn) when you have one of the discs in the drive, and post it here, we'll know what kind of blanks they are.
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@ BillB, I misunderstood that you were having trouble with Verb media, not Sony, hence why I asked for the serial #.
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"Hans, Hans, Hans! We've been frew this a dozen times. I don't have any weapons of mass destwuction, OK Hans?"
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If you could post the serial number from the bottom of the disk BillB, the one that 's very small and on the clear part of the hub and also nearest to the hub, not the one on the edge of the dye. That will tell us whether your Verbatims are made by Prodisc or CMC(assuming your in North America, if your in Europe they could also be made by MBIL in India). There are starting to be problems with Prodisc made Verbs, CMC's seem excellent so far.
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HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (ATA) Media Information: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R DL Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 4,173,824 Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x DVD?R DL Boundary Information: L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 Changeable: Yes Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Results: I 21:35:22 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started! I 21:35:22 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 21:35:22 Initialising SPTI... I 21:35:22 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:35:41 Found 2 DVD?RWs and 2 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 22:21:43 Operation Started! I 22:21:43 Source File: -==//[DISCOVERY IMAGE]/==- I 22:21:43 Source File Sectors: 4,173,824 (MODE1/2048) I 22:21:43 Source File Size: 8,547,991,552 bytes I 22:21:43 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 22:21:43 Source File File System(s): None I 22:21:43 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (F:) (ATA) I 22:21:43 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 4x) I 22:21:43 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 22:21:43 Write Mode: DVD I 22:21:43 Write Type: DAO I 22:21:43 Write Speed: MAX I 22:21:43 Link Size: Auto I 22:21:43 Test Mode: No I 22:21:43 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 22:21:43 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 I 22:21:43 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary I 22:21:43 Filling Buffer... I 22:21:43 Writing LeadIn... I 22:22:00 Writing Image... I 22:22:00 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911) I 22:35:28 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4173823) I 22:48:30 Synchronising Cache... I 22:48:54 Closing Track... I 22:48:55 Finalising Disc... I 22:49:24 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:49:25 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H22N_1.00_9-29-2006_RITEK-D01-01_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 22:49:25 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:49:25 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:27:41 I 22:49:25 Average Write Rate: 5,250 KB/s (3.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,602 KB/s (4.0x) I 22:49:25 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 22:49:35 Waiting for device to become ready... I 22:50:06 Device Ready! I 22:50:06 Operation Started! I 22:50:06 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (F:) (ATA) I 22:50:06 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 4x) I 22:50:06 Image File: -==//[DISCOVERY IMAGE]/==- I 22:50:06 Image File Sectors: 4,173,824 (MODE1/2048) I 22:50:06 Image File Size: 8,547,991,552 bytes I 22:50:06 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 22:50:06 Image File File System(s): None I 22:50:07 Verifying Sectors... I 23:02:15 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:02:15 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H22N_1.00_9-29-2006_RITEK-D01-01_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 23:02:15 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:02:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:12:01 I 23:02:15 Average Verify Rate: 11,577 KB/s (8.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,856 KB/s (12.2x) I 00:48:17 Close Request Acknowledged I 00:48:17 Closing Down... I 00:48:17 Shutting down SPTI... I 00:48:17 ImgBurn closed!
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erm not really, didn't tell her I'd ordered it, and snuck it in the house