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Future Shop has 100 disc spindles of Verbatim + or - 16X for $19.95C! Just make sure you pick out the CMC made ones and not the Prodisc made Verbatims. There are some MBIL made starting to show up also, apparently they are better than the Prodiscs, not as good as the CMC's. I'm going to have to stock up, bot a shit load when they were $30, but this is better than Christmas!

I know there is a 20X BenQ coming out quick, although word on the street for it is Liteon rebadged. This model you mention I haven't heard of. In the past, BenQ's that were RAM ready had a Panasonic chipset I believe, and weren't widely appreciated.

I've been changing ISP's searching for the holy grail, mediocre speed internet. Still looking.

I donated to the fuckers also

My 165X's will do an average job at 2.4X, but they seem to do not so well at anything faster than that, IF you can find media that it even can, as you say Corny. Pion 111 & LG 22N both will scan 93-96% at 6-8X, and as Verbatim rate's and guarantee's the MKM 001-00 at those speeds, they are the drives I use. Don't have the Plex 716A in the box right now (need a bigger case!).

Like Kev say's, you can't beat Future Shops sale price. NCIX.com also has the odd sale, they're in Vancouver.

The Plextor 716 did/does an excellent job with dual layer discs. The Pioneer 111 also does a fine job, as does the LG H22N. These are drives that I use with DL's. I don't particularily like the way Benq 1655/0's do DL's, but then again you can't easily buy them now anyway. If you are looking for an all around excellent drive, the Pioneer 111 might be for you. The LG is a favorite of mine, but it isn't a good reader. You may want to wait for the new Pioneers which are due out in January, with FINALLY a sata version following a few months later.

I loved GT3, GT4 didn't have quite the same appeal, although game play had improved. Didn't like the way you had to progress through the game as much with 4 as 3.

HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (ATA) Media Information: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R DL Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 4,173,824 Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x DVD?R DL Boundary Information: L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 Changeable: Yes Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: MKM-003-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: MKM-003-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Results: I 23:02:53 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.7 Beta started! I 23:02:53 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 23:02:53 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,492 KB - Available: 1,750,892 KB I 23:02:53 Initialising SPTI... I 23:02:53 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 23:02:53 Found 2 DVD?RWs and 2 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 23:04:03 Operation Started! I 23:04:03 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:04:03 Source File Sectors: 4,173,824 (MODE1/2048) I 23:04:03 Source File Size: 8,547,991,552 bytes I 23:04:03 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:04:03 Source File File System(s): None I 23:04:03 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (F:) (ATA) I 23:04:03 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 23:04:03 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 23:04:03 Write Mode: DVD I 23:04:03 Write Type: DAO I 23:04:03 Write Speed: MAX I 23:04:03 Link Size: Auto I 23:04:03 Test Mode: No I 23:04:03 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 23:04:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 I 23:04:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary I 23:04:03 Filling Buffer... (256 MB) I 23:04:03 Writing LeadIn... I 23:04:25 Writing Image... I 23:04:25 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911) I 23:13:41 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4173823) I 23:22:27 Synchronising Cache... I 23:22:52 Closing Track... I 23:22:53 Finalising Disc... I 23:23:17 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:23:17 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H22N_1.00_12-8-2006_MKM-003-00_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 23:23:17 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:23:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:13 I 23:23:17 Average Write Rate: 7,722 KB/s (5.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,211 KB/s (8.1x) I 23:23:17 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 23:23:27 Waiting for device to become ready... I 23:24:00 Device Ready! I 23:24:00 Operation Started! I 23:24:00 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (F:) (ATA) I 23:24:00 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 23:24:00 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:24:00 Image File Sectors: 4,173,824 (MODE1/2048) I 23:24:00 Image File Size: 8,547,991,552 bytes I 23:24:00 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 23:24:00 Image File File System(s): None I 23:24:00 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 4173823) I 23:36:07 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:36:07 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H22N_1.00_12-8-2006_MKM-003-00_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 23:36:07 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:36:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:59 I 23:36:07 Average Verify Rate: 11,610 KB/s (8.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,866 KB/s (12.2x) I 09:10:50 Close Request Acknowledged I 09:10:50 Closing Down... I 09:10:51 Shutting down SPTI... I 09:10:51 ImgBurn closed!

BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (ATA) Media Information: BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R DL Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 4,173,824 Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x DVD?R DL Boundary Information: L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 Changeable: Yes Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: MKM-003-00 Book Type: DVD+R DL Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 2 Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519 Results: I 19:17:55 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.6 Beta started! I 19:17:55 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 19:17:55 Total Physical Memory: 2,096,492 KB - Available: 1,654,708 KB I 19:17:55 Initialising SPTI... I 19:17:55 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:18:04 Found 2 DVD?RWs and 2 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 19:20:55 Operation Started! I 19:20:55 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 19:20:55 Source File Sectors: 4,173,824 (MODE1/2048) I 19:20:55 Source File Size: 8,547,991,552 bytes I 19:20:55 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 19:20:55 Source File File System(s): None I 19:20:55 Destination Device: [1:1:0] BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (G:) (ATA) I 19:20:55 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 19:20:55 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 19:20:55 Write Mode: DVD I 19:20:55 Write Type: DAO I 19:20:55 Write Speed: MAX I 19:20:55 Link Size: Auto I 19:20:55 Test Mode: No I 19:20:55 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:20:55 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912 I 19:20:55 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary I 19:20:55 Filling Buffer... (256 MB) I 19:20:55 Writing LeadIn... I 19:21:23 Writing Image... I 19:21:23 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911) I 19:29:18 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4173823) I 19:37:30 Synchronising Cache... I 19:37:31 Closing Track... I 19:37:32 Finalising Disc... I 19:38:07 Exporting Graph Data... I 19:38:07 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\BENQ_DVD_LS_DW1655_BCIB_12-5-2006_MKM-003-00_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 19:38:07 Export Successfully Completed! I 19:38:07 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:17:10 I 19:38:07 Average Write Rate: 8,641 KB/s (6.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,185 KB/s (8.1x) I 19:38:07 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 19:38:24 Waiting for device to become ready... I 19:38:38 Device Ready! I 19:38:39 Operation Started! I 19:38:39 Source Device: [1:1:0] BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (G:) (ATA) I 19:38:39 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x) I 19:38:39 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 19:38:39 Image File Sectors: 4,173,824 (MODE1/2048) I 19:38:39 Image File Size: 8,547,991,552 bytes I 19:38:39 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 19:38:39 Image File File System(s): None I 19:38:39 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 4173823) I 19:50:49 Exporting Graph Data... I 19:50:49 Graph Data File: C:\DVDInfoPro Scans\BENQ_DVD_LS_DW1655_BCIB_12-5-2006_MKM-003-00_MAX_DISCOVERY_IMAGE.ibg I 19:50:49 Export Successfully Completed! I 19:50:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:12:05 I 19:50:49 Average Verify Rate: 11,513 KB/s (8.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,797 KB/s (12.1x) I 20:41:26 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:41:26 Closing Down... I 20:41:26 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:41:26 ImgBurn closed!

Media: Verbatim 8x DVD+R DL [MKM-003-00] Burnt With: BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (ATA) HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22N 1.00 (ATA) PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D 1.15 (ATA) Scanned With: BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCIB (ATA)

That's not a good sign, your drive could be getting ready to join the choir invisible. Try burning it slower instead of at max speed, try 8X, if that doesn't work, try 4X, but TYG03's don't usually work well at 4X. Let us know how it comes out.

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I'll second that, excellent games. Had one head to head battle game where you could chop the opponents head off with mucho blood gushing about, can't remember the name , but good times were had by all One of my fav's

Some interesting info at the below link source http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/CD

I had great luck with Ricoh dyed +R DL's, but can't find them anymore. Here in Canada the informed shopper can get 20 Verb DL's for $30CAD, about $26US, which is only a buck fitty a piece. Have found Fuji DL's with Ritek dye for $1.33, but if you check the media section you'll see they aren't that sharp.

Either way, we've got the year down pat

He doesn't say whether he recorded them himself or not, but anyway Dire Straits Brothers in Arms(1985) was I believe the first cd released that was DDD ie digital recorded, mastered, and transfered to disc (I stand to be corrected on what each D stands for, but that's close). So the technology was in use then, what exactly they used though I can't say.

No thanks, I'm not gay. Fook U

Fook me, 20 Verb DL's are $30-35CAD here, I should be shipping them to you.

How'd those velcro gloves you had custom made work with your favorite "pet" LFC?