Dawn_fan

Well that's good to know. It's also good to know that the CMC Pro DVD-Rs are on par with their DataLifePlus/AZO counterparts. I wonder if it's because CMC now takes care of both segments, the Taiyo Yuden segment and the Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation segment. I guess they are dedicated to those segments being good quality while they cheap out on the Life Series. Either way, I think CMC Pro discs in general are safe to recommend.

I have used the Verbatim DataLifePlus CD-Rs before these and I must say, the results are very close, if not the same. I can't comment on if CMC preserved the original quality of Taiyo Yuden CDs, as I never used them before they were bought out by CMC, but the results seem promising. If anyone would want to purchase these discs, I would recommend buying them from B&H Photo Video. Amazon doesn't officially sell them and the 3rd party sellers are charging too much. BH sells them themselves so it's more reliable to buy from them. They can be found here: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1257816-REG/cmc_pro_tcdr_valzz_sk_pro_valueline_silver_thermal.html The LG WH16NS40 drive is a common one people use nowadays, and from my experience, the CMC PRO CD-R discs work as well as the DataLifePlus AZO discs with this drive. I also believe the price per disc is less, in the link I posted from BH Photo Video, you can get a 100 pack of CMC Pro CD-Rs for about $24. Whereas the Verbatim DataLifePlus AZO CD-Rs are going for $20 on Amazon for only a 50 pack: https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-700MB-DataLifePlus-Inkjet-Printable/dp/B0001LS35W?crid=3LG8UH7JKNZL1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HR9uV01IrRju8p1hQEZTr0TWIlS-qRxisjEyZGWcl5gMZ_ujuu_PA0DfUpE7JiyahXg4p3IFVTk0CYAxNthGXN1kSSEV7eqdo8uSkYmpOurNv5NAOgeAD9ZWg9jIm7VX1IV4ytt6pHErU_kvXW_GDM65VKS7vRj1Yc_dQSLG7-bTDQy31Nj8-p7MxmU7EpJmKdsOFckEp7K4sEGRA9-4yJEZuxAHGiSsoiWV2lvim1I.R0udfWsiF6DoDxALAmOWjAOaC-_OkwQp-kLix7JGSSU&dib_tag=se&keywords=verbatim%2Bdatalifeplus%2Bcd-rs&qid=1742918521&sprefix=verbatim%2Bdatal%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-1&th=1 The value of the CMC Pro CD-R is better than the DataLifePlus discs right now and they yield the same, if not better results. I think we can start recommending the CMC PRO CD-Rs alongside the DataLifePlus CDs when we suggest media to other users. Of course, countries other than the US might have trouble finding CMC PRO CD-R as BH Photo Video is only selling in the US, I believe. Anyways, I hope this thread helps. If you would like more information, feel free to ask and I will do my best to provide it.

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HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.05 Results: ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log ; Wednesday, 16 October 2024, 17:38:43 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 17:27:39 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 17:27:39 Microsoft Windows 8 Core x64 Edition (6.2, Build 9200) I 17:27:39 Total Physical Memory: 8,105,084 KiB - Available: 2,334,848 KiB I 17:27:39 Initialising SPTI... I 17:27:39 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 17:27:39 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.05 (F:) (USB 2.0) I 17:27:39 Found 1 BD-RE XL! I 17:28:35 Operation Started! 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HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GP65NB60 RF01 Results: ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 - Log ; Wednesday, 16 October 2024, 22:06:56 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 21:54:41 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 21:54:41 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) I 21:54:41 Total Physical Memory: 916,536 KiB - Available: 465,748 KiB I 21:54:41 Initialising SPTI... I 21:54:42 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:54:42 -> Drive 1 - Info: Slimtype DVDRW SOSW-833S VRS3 (F:) (ATA) I 21:54:42 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GP65NB60 RF01-45 (G:) (USB 2.0) I 21:54:42 Found 1 DVD±RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 21:55:55 Operation Started! I 21:55:55 Source File: E:\My Music\Phonk 10.cue I 21:55:55 Source File Sectors: 354,082 (AUDIO/2352) I 21:55:55 Source File Size: 832,800,864 bytes I 21:55:55 Source File Volume Identifier: Phonk 10 I 21:55:55 Source File File System(s): None I 21:55:55 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GP65NB60 RF01 (G:) (USB) I 21:55:55 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m24s01f, Taiyo Yuden Co.) I 21:55:55 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x I 21:55:55 Destination Media Sectors: 359,845 I 21:55:55 Write Mode: CD I 21:55:55 Write Type: SAO I 21:55:55 Write Speed: MAX I 21:55:55 Lock Volume: Yes I 21:55:55 Test Mode: No I 21:55:55 OPC: No I 21:55:55 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 21:55:55 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 4,234 KB/s (24x) I 21:55:56 Filling Buffer... (20 MiB) I 21:55:58 Writing LeadIn... (CD-TEXT) I 21:56:34 Writing Session 1 of 1... (30 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 354081) I 21:56:34 Writing Track 1 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 0 - 17254) I 21:56:54 Writing Track 2 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 17255 - 27991) I 21:57:06 Writing Track 3 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 27992 - 39203) I 21:57:18 Writing Track 4 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 39204 - 53856) I 21:57:33 Writing Track 5 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 53857 - 64671) I 21:57:43 Writing Track 6 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 64672 - 79986) I 21:57:57 Writing Track 7 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 79987 - 83458) I 21:58:00 Writing Track 8 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 83459 - 90118) I 21:58:06 Writing Track 9 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 90119 - 103622) I 21:58:18 Writing Track 10 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 103623 - 114621) I 21:58:27 Writing Track 11 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 114622 - 123807) I 21:58:34 Writing Track 12 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 123808 - 129834) I 21:58:39 Writing Track 13 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 129835 - 137099) I 21:58:45 Writing Track 14 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 137100 - 151055) I 21:58:55 Writing Track 15 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 151056 - 161866) I 21:59:03 Writing Track 16 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 161867 - 171088) I 21:59:10 Writing Track 17 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 171089 - 185103) I 21:59:20 Writing Track 18 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 185104 - 195885) I 21:59:28 Writing Track 19 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 195886 - 207981) I 21:59:36 Writing Track 20 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 207982 - 216087) I 21:59:41 Writing Track 21 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 216088 - 226101) I 21:59:48 Writing Track 22 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 226102 - 236675) I 21:59:55 Writing Track 23 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 236676 - 255893) I 22:00:07 Writing Track 24 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 255894 - 270615) I 22:00:16 Writing Track 25 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 270616 - 286700) I 22:00:26 Writing Track 26 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 286701 - 297919) I 22:00:32 Writing Track 27 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 297920 - 310219) I 22:00:40 Writing Track 28 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 310220 - 320666) I 22:00:46 Writing Track 29 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 320667 - 337022) I 22:00:55 Writing Track 30 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 337023 - 354081) I 22:01:04 Synchronising Cache... I 22:01:10 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:01:11 Graph Data File: C:\Users\DAWN\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GP65NB60_RF01_WEDNESDAY-OCTOBER-16-2024_9-55_PM_97m24s01f_MAX.ibg I 22:01:11 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:01:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:15 I 22:01:11 Average Write Rate: 3,012 KiB/s (15.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 4,217 KiB/s (21.3x) I 22:01:11 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 22:01:22 Waiting for device to become ready... I 22:01:29 Device Ready! I 22:01:30 Operation Started! I 22:01:30 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GP65NB60 RF01 (G:) (USB) I 22:01:30 Source Media Type: CD-ROM I 22:01:30 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 5x, 10x, 16x, 20x, 24x I 22:01:30 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x I 22:01:30 Source Media Sectors: 354,082 I 22:01:30 Source Media Size: 832,800,864 bytes I 22:01:30 Image File: E:\My Music\Phonk 10.cue I 22:01:30 Image File Sectors: 354,082 (AUDIO/2352) I 22:01:30 Image File Size: 832,800,864 bytes I 22:01:30 Image File Volume Identifier: Phonk 10 I 22:01:30 Image File File System(s): None I 22:01:30 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 22:01:46 Read Speed - Effective: 24x I 22:01:46 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (30 Tracks, LBA: 0 - 354081) I 22:01:46 Verifying Track 1 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 0 - 17254) I 22:02:14 Verifying Track 2 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 17255 - 27991) I 22:02:26 Verifying Track 3 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 27992 - 39203) I 22:02:37 Verifying Track 4 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 39204 - 53856) I 22:02:51 Verifying Track 5 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 53857 - 64671) I 22:03:02 Verifying Track 6 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 64672 - 79986) I 22:03:15 Verifying Track 7 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 79987 - 83458) I 22:03:18 Verifying Track 8 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 83459 - 90118) I 22:03:24 Verifying Track 9 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 90119 - 103622) I 22:03:35 Verifying Track 10 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 103623 - 114621) I 22:03:44 Verifying Track 11 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 114622 - 123807) I 22:03:51 Verifying Track 12 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 123808 - 129834) I 22:03:56 Verifying Track 13 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 129835 - 137099) I 22:04:01 Verifying Track 14 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 137100 - 151055) I 22:04:12 Verifying Track 15 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 151056 - 161866) I 22:04:19 Verifying Track 16 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 161867 - 171088) I 22:04:26 Verifying Track 17 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 171089 - 185103) I 22:04:36 Verifying Track 18 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 185104 - 195885) I 22:04:43 Verifying Track 19 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 195886 - 207981) I 22:04:51 Verifying Track 20 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 207982 - 216087) I 22:04:56 Verifying Track 21 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, WAVE, LBA: 216088 - 226101) I 22:05:03 Verifying Track 22 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 226102 - 236675) I 22:05:09 Verifying Track 23 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 236676 - 255893) I 22:05:21 Verifying Track 24 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 255894 - 270615) I 22:05:30 Verifying Track 25 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 270616 - 286700) I 22:05:39 Verifying Track 26 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 286701 - 297919) I 22:05:46 Verifying Track 27 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 297920 - 310219) I 22:05:53 Verifying Track 28 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 310220 - 320666) I 22:05:58 Verifying Track 29 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 320667 - 337022) I 22:06:07 Verifying Track 30 of 30... (AUDIO/2352, MP3, LBA: 337023 - 354081) I 22:06:18 Exporting Graph Data... I 22:06:18 Graph Data File: C:\Users\DAWN\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GP65NB60_RF01_WEDNESDAY-OCTOBER-16-2024_9-55_PM_97m24s01f_MAX.ibg I 22:06:18 Export Successfully Completed! I 22:06:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:46 I 22:06:18 Average Verify Rate: 3,012 KiB/s (15.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 4,310 KiB/s (21.8x) I 22:06:56 Close Request Acknowledged I 22:06:56 Closing Down... I 22:06:56 Shutting down SPTI... I 22:06:56 ImgBurn closed! ;

I have been wanting to make this post for a long time but I never really got around to do it. Here I am now though. There has been a decent amount of talk about the CMC Pro CD-R discs on the forum but there wasn't ever really concrete testing with some results, so I thought I might post my results including scans and such. I believe since I don't already have so many posts on the forum, I can't post in the media section, so I will put this post in the Chat section for now. Maybe an admin or higher level could move this thread to the Media section if suitable. I will try my best to follow the format of other media tests so it's easy to find information. I also apologize for not having too many drives to test with. Anyway, here goes: Media: CMC Pro CD-R [Taiyo Yuden Co.] Burned With: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GP65NB60 RF01 HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.05 Slimtype DVDRW SOSW-833S VRS3 (Liteon) Scanned With: Slimtype DVDRW SOSW-833S VRS3 (Supports KProbe2)

I find it suspicious that your error occurs around the same spot for BOTH discs. You burn 18 tracks and on the 18th track, you encounter the read error. This is present for the CMC disc burn in your first post and the Infodisc CD-RW used in your post afterwards. Since this is a pattern with two different types of discs, I feel like it could even be your drive. There are many factors involved here so it may sometimes be difficult to diagnose. I would recommend trying a different drive and seeing if it gets better or trying a slower burn speed. Also Mr. Minter still has a valid point and is only trying to help, most of the problems faced across this forum is due to faulty media, especially media manufactured by CMC Magnetics Corp. MOST of the time, switching to a different brand, like the Data Life Plus Discs Mr. Minter mentioned previously, tend to fix the issues as drives are more compatible with those discs.

I feel like at one point in time, (the very early 2000s), CMC wasn't that bad. I still have my dad's Imation CD-Rs that are recovery discs for an old state of Windows XP and hold a lot of different software from then. I believe there are 10 of them and all of them are readable. Well over 20 years old and are very discolored. Turned from pale white to a dark/rich gold. They were burned with a standard laptop CD-RW/DVD-ROM slim drive too, QSI if anybody knows that company drive. Additionally, they have only been stored in those paper sleeve covers and they're still fine. Just in case though, I made backups of them onto Verbatim Data Life Plus CDs. CMC now sucks for real though, the verbatim Life Series now has trouble burning in many drives and I feel their longevity isn't it. Though they are good for overburning like ThaCrip said in his other posts.

Ah ok, that makes sense. So that correct output file size is used to determine where the tracks start and end in terms of sectors? So that's why Imgburn must need that before the burn? Yeah I figured. After posting, I actually compared the length of tracks in a music player with the file decoded size length that comes in the cue files: the only difference was a couple of frames. So just to confirm: lets say I have a song that's 3:55 in length but it's length including the frames is 3:55:23. If I compromise on only those 23 frames and put 3:55:00 as the file decoded size in the cue file, I have got nothing to lose right? I just want to make sure the burn will still go through without Imgburn giving an error. (And yeah I don't care at all about those frames, if anything only a single second, that too towards the end of the track, would only be missed.) I see, that's a fabulous system to use so that our storage won't have to keep on holding the large decoded files. 😄 Thanks for your reply.

Hello, I recently created a program to automate writing cue files based on the titles of MP3 files in a given directory. I followed the exact same format as imgburn's cue files and got the program to succeed even without putting in the line of the REM FILE DECODED size for each track: Imgburn could recognize the file and burn the disc with the exact CD text I desired. My only concern is that now, Imgburn performs 'Analyzing Audio Files' each time I want to burn the image files created with my program. This is opposed to it only doing it once when I create a cue file from Imgburn itself and it won't have to decode each file every time I want to burn that image. This isn't really a big deal; however, I do burn many copies of an image and having to convert files prior to each burn of the image would be a bit taxing on my computers. (I use older machines for burning.) I think this is only because I don't specify the REM file decoded size in my custom cue files from my program. I did some more digging and I saw someone able to do it when they were creating a similar program of writing cue files with python. I personally am using Java for my program and there was no good way of getting the decoded size of an MP3 in MM:SS:FF format. However, there is an easy way to just get the normal playable length of the MP3 file using java. This leads me to my question of: Can I just use the length of the MP3 file itself as the REM file decoded size? I also read somewhere that the length should be almost the same and the only difference would be a couple of frames; there are 74 frames in a whole second of audio so I would only be compromising a maximum of a single second in audio? I really wouldn't notice that at all. But I just want to make sure that what I plan to do won't ruin the whole point of a traditional audio CD as opposed to a data CD of MP3s or MP3 CD. Another general question I had about the way Imgburn works: are these decoded files whenever Imgburn performs the 'Analyzing Audio Files' constructed in memory as the disc burns? I still can't piece my around how I have normal cue files that do not correspond with a binary file of the raw data structure of an audio CD. I feel like I read somewhere on the forum that the files are constructed in small segments in memory as the burn proceeds but I just wanted to confirm. I apologize for a very long initial post and I thank those who bother reading even a portion of it. Thanks for any help in advance!

Just wanted to say my opinions here. Personally, I feel like the software is doing just fine the way it is right now. At least for the methods I use it for, I encounter no bugs whatsoever and the performance is by far superior to any other burning application I have used until I stumbled across ImgBurn. It's light, it's easy to navigate, and it gets the job done which is the most important aspect of it. Heck ImgBurn runs fine on this 20 year old laptop I have going that I use for burning and it handles it quite nicely which I am using right now to type this. We should be thankful that Lightning UK still has a forum going for ImgBurn and is still taking time out of his life to still aid us folks who still need assistance. LUK should continue to spend time with his family and maintain other things that are much more of priority than ImgBurn itself. The software is in a decent state already and I find it hard to tell that the latest version is from 2013 honestly. I am sure LUK will come back to developing once he believes the time is right for himself. It's personally his choice and we have to respect that.

Ah ok, I see now.

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Yeah I agree the old spindles are useful. How did the spindles change, I thought they're all just the same where you slide the disc on the pole in the center of the spindle and keep on stacking them? Ah ok, thanks for that. I have always wondered what that slight difference was. I know one is Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation and the other is Mitsubishi Kagaku Media but I never understood why they are both differently used for different kinds of discs.