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LUK, what happens, and in what order, when a Refresh (F5) is done? I ask because I came across this situation. I had a case where I needed to create an MDS linking to multiple image parts contained across two discs, each inserted into a different drive. ImgBurn was open at the time I inserted a disc into a drive it had been using, so, I knew I'd need to Refresh to get access to the drive, or close ImgBurn and reopen. When I pressed Refresh, ImgBurn returned a dialog because the last file it had used to burn was no longer there. I had deleted it, so, that's not the problem. But, the dialog only has Retry and Cancel on it. So, it seems that this refresh for the loaded file name occurs before whatever happens that "frees" the drive because after Cancel, the only option I could use, the drive was still inaccessible. (I even tried switching to a different mode so the file field would be blank and Refreshing, but, the drive still wasn't accessible.) So, I closed and reopened ImgBurn, but, it made me wonder. I am guessing that the drive refreshes are done then after the refresh for the file field. And, if so can they/should they/shouldn't they be moved in order of operation to occur before a file existence check?

I don't really understand what I'm supporting! Doesn't Acronis expect the tib file to be on the hdd somewhere as an actual file? At the moment, it sounds like I'd be doing the same things as burning the raw content that is a RAR image to a disc. Nothing would then be able to open it again! If Acronis really does create an image that's self bootable off a DVD, then yes, there is point to this whole thing. I however, could not find such an option within the program (but then I don't really use it )

Blu-Ray? I?ll pass. At least for the time being. Truly great games on any platform are far and few between. The selection of 30 mediocre games available for the PS3 release don?t float my boat. Even worse is the fact that software houses aren?t being given the specifications they need to produce killer games. How the hell are supposed to be able to create a brilliant game if $ony won?t provide information of the console itself?

Hello, sorry for my poor english but I am a french guy. I would like to have an advise concerning the best way to make a commercial DVD9 backup for my kids. One friend of mine use the followin method to make jis DVD9 backup 1) Ripping in file mode using combination of cloneDVD and anyDVD (elimination of the break layer) 2) Opening of the DVD structure with DVDremake to check if everything is OK (and modification if necessary) 3) Creation of an iso file using Imgtool burn (which creates automatically a break layer) 4) Burning with Imgburn To my mind, as the break layer is set automatically by Imgtool, we can not be sure that the position of the break layer is the same as the original DVD. I read a lot of informations on the forum concerning the best way to make a DVD9 backup. If I well understand, people first create an ISO file (+mds file) with dvddecrypter and then burn the file choosing the mds file in Imgburn. To my mind, the position of the break layer is also exactly the same that the original one, as informations are contained in the mds file. That is not true with the first method to my mind. Could you please help me to choose the best method between both ? I precise that I will burn my backup on DVD+R DL and I would like, if possible, obtain the same structure that the original one, but maybe this is not possible with DVD+R DL media, I don't know. Please help me. Regards

Seems "football" may be far older than any of us realized. Let's see...ahh, I found it. I knew Britannica wouldn't let me down. The institutional basis for the most widely played of these new games was England's Football Association (1863). References to ?Association football? were soon abbreviated to ?soccer.? Since this is a "premium" article, for those who aren't members I'll quote it in its entirely, which I believe is legal as long as I site it. Football Any of a number of related games, all of which are characterized by two persons or teams attempting to kick, carry, throw, or otherwise propel a ball toward an opponent's goal. In some of these games, only kicking is allowed; in others, kicking has become less important than other means of propulsion. For an explanation of contemporary football sports, see football (soccer); football, gridiron; rugby; Australian rules football; and Gaelic football. The impulse to kick a round object has been present as long as humans have been humans. The first game of football was played when two or more people, acting on this impulse, competed in an attempt to kick a round object in one direction rather than in another. Evidence of organized football games in Greece and China goes back more than 2,000 years, but historians have no idea how these games were played. Claims that football of some sort was played throughout the Roman Empire are plausible, but the game of harpastum, often cited in support of these claims, seems to have involved throwing a ball rather than kicking it. Although kicking games were played by the indigenous peoples of North America, they were much less popular than the stickball games that are the origin of the modern game of lacrosse. The folk football games of the 14th and 15th centuries, which were usually played at Shrovetide or Easter, may have had their origins in pagan fertility rites celebrating the return of spring. They were tumultuous affairs. When village competed against village, kicking, throwing, and carrying a wooden or leather ball (or inflated animal bladder) across fields and over streams, through narrow gateways and narrower streets, everyone was involved?men and women, adults and children, rich and poor, laity and clergy. The chaotic contest ended when some particularly robust or skillful villager managed to send the ball through the portal of the opposing village's parish church. When folk football was confined within a single village, the sides were typically formed of the married versus the unmarried, a division which suggests the game's origins in fertility ritual. The game was violent. The French version, known as soule, was described by Michel Bouet in Signification du sport (1968) as ?a veritable combat for possession of the ball,? in which the participants struggled ?like dogs fighting over a bone.? The British version, which has been researched more thoroughly than any other, was, according to Barbarians, Gentlemen and Players (1979) by Eric Dunning and Kenneth Sheard, ?a pleasurable form?of excitement akin to that aroused in battle.? Not surprisingly, most of the information about medieval folk football is derived from legal documents. Richard II banned the game in 1314, and his royal successors repeated the prohibition in 1349, 1389, 1401, and 1423, all in a vain attempt to deprive their disobedient subjects of their disorderly pleasure. Despite the bans, records of criminal trials continue to refer to lives lost and property destroyed in the course of an annual football game. The most detailed account, however, is Richard Carew's description of ?hurling to goales,? from his Survey of Cornwall (1602). That British folk football did not become appreciably more civilized with the arrival of the Renaissance is suggested by Sir Thomas Elyot's condemnation in The Governour (1537). He lamented the games ?beastely fury, and extreme violence.? Even James I, who defended the legitimacy of traditional English pastimes when they were condemned by the Puritans, sought to discourage his subjects from indulging in folk football. He wrote in Basilikon Doron; or, His Majesties Instructions to His Dearest Sonne, Henry the Prince (1603) that the ?rough and violent? game was ?meeter for mameing than making able the [players] thereof.? In Renaissance Italy the rough-and-tumble sport of folk football became calcio, a game popular among fashionable young aristocrats, who transformed it into a highly formalized and considerably less violent pastime played on bounded rectangular spaces laid out in urban squares such as Florence's Piazza di Santa Croce. In his Discorso sopra il gioco del calcio fiorentino (1580; ?Discourse on the Florentine Game of Calcio?), Giovanni Bardi wrote that the players should be ?gentlemen, from eighteen years of age to forty-five, beautiful and vigorous, of gallant bearing and of good report.? They were expected to wear ?goodly raiment.? In a contemporary print, uniformed pikemen guard the field and preserve decorum. (In 1909, in a moment of nationalistic fervour, the Federazione Italiana del Football changed its name to the Federazione Italiana Gioco del Calcio.) As an aspect of more or less unbroken local tradition, in towns such as Boulogne-la-Grasse and Ashbourne (Derbyshire), versions of folk football survived in France and Britain until the early 20th century. Although all modern football sports evolved from medieval folk football, they derive more directly from games played in schoolyards rather than village greens or open fields. In 1747, in his Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College, Thomas Gray referred to the ?flying ball? and the ?fearful joy? that it provided the ?idle progeny? of England's elite. In the late 18th and early 19th centuries at Eton, Harrow, Shrewsbury, Winchester, and other public schools, football was played in forms nearly as violent as the medieval version of the game. When the privileged graduates of these schools went on to Oxford and Cambridge, they were reluctant to abandon their ?fearful joy.? Since none of them were ready to play by the rules of someone else's school, the only rational solution was to create new games that incorporated the rules of several schools. The institutional basis for the most widely played of these new games was England's Football Association (1863). References to ?Association football? were soon abbreviated to ?soccer.? Graduates of Rugby School, accustomed to rules that permitted carrying and throwing as well as kicking the ball, played their game, rugby, under the aegis of the Rugby Football Union (1871). When Thomas Wentworth Wills (1835?80) combined Rugby's rules with those from Harrow and Winchester, Australian rules football was born. In the United States, rugby was quickly transformed into gridiron football. (The name came from the white stripes that crossed the field at 10-yard [9.1-metre] intervals.) Although Gaelic football is similar to these other ?codes,? that game was institutionalized under the auspices of the Gaelic Athletic Association (1884) as a distinctively Irish alternative to the imported English games of soccer and rugby. Allen Guttmann "football." Encyclop?dia Britannica. 2006. Encyclop?dia Britannica Premium Service. 12 May 2006 <http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9389119>.

No more Irix?! Not really necessary since the SFX for Titanic was done with Linux. 16 PCs connected, running Linux created a kind of supercomputer. Don't ask the details I just remember the article. There was some buzz--I was working for a computer manufacturer who made supercomputers themselves--about using PCs to create "poor man's" supers. The Titanic was used as an example proving it could be done. You're blaming Ariana Richardson for SGI filing for bankruptcy? (Or was it Richards?) I first saw that at Purdue. They'd set up some screenings as fundraisers. My ex somehow got free tickets to a fundraiser (I know, sounds odd, she probably fucked somebody for them). When they showed that scene where the girl says that line, the audience, 99% college kids, broke out in hilarity. Christ, it wasn't that funny. Apparently the idea that a 12 yr old would know UNIX was thought to be absurd. No link? I'm surprised. Now I have to actually look for myself! (!) (!) (!) (!)

Did a scan of my, ah, cousin Bruce's third triple-A game for the New York Yankee farm team, the Diehards (sponsered by the, ah, battery company). Sorry about the smudges, having a little trouble with Photoshop, its mucking up jpegs in the most peculiar places. Well, I just got the best scan ever. And it wasn't a Taiyo. It was a Ricoh. I used a Taiyo to back up cousin Bruce's moment (his brother in law Jules Windfield was there too). I believe these were done on my Memorex True8 (aka Pioneer 107D). Here's the Ricoh (pretty sweet for a disc burned more than TWO years ago!): Here's the copy: Needless to say I was rather shocked. Looks I'd better create a new back up.

Must have been a fluke, as I can't re-create it. Same image, same disc, same drives. Burned the disc in one drive, then, attempted to overwrite it in the same, which succeded. Then, put the disc in the other drive, burned it, succeeded, attempted to burn over the contents, succeded there. Then, swapped the disc back and repeated the first test again with the same results. Oh, well.

Hi, I own a movie DVD and want to make a copy as the original is getting a lot of workout. I used sonic to create an image on my HDD and tried to use IMGBurn to create the copy. I get an error about the ISO being larger (as I believe it is a DVD9) and I am trying to copy to 2 DVD5 disks. I do not have a DL burner. Please see the attached log file and let meknow where the problem is. I thought IMGBurn would automatically find the layer break and create 2 disks. The media I am using is Sony and I have used it a lot without any problems, in the past ImgBurn___fail_harry_potter.log

The funniest part of the whole thing, IMO, has been to look at the history of Sony. Sony helped to create the widely accepted mass market home video demand with Betamax. Hollywood tried to step in and curtail home video recording because they saw not a potential to release their vaults to the home market, but saw, instead, people taping the edited versions of their movies off of TV for a cheaper price. Sony cared about consumer rights then because it had a stake in them: if people lost the ability to record at home, then, Sony couldn't sell home video recorders. Now, notice how a simple thing like changing from an entirely hardware centric business to a combination hardware and content owner makes. When Sony started gobbling up movie studios left and right with acquisitions like Columbia, Tri-Star, etc. Sony suddenly lost the desire to make sure consumers could do things. Why? Because the market had been, instead, won by a competitor: VHS. Sony didn't want to lose the gravy train it had basically started, so, it covered both bases. Notice how Sony, after losing the VCR Format Wars, made sure, basically, there would be no format war with recordable DVD by making drives that were dual format? Also note how the Playstation was not just a proprietary video game system but also a CD player. And how the PS 2 was not only a proprietary video game system, but, also a CD player, player of the proprietary video game format from the previous generation, AND a DVD player. BUT, the real change comes when Sony is suddenly a combination provider for both hardware and content. This leads to the most incredible shift of all: after fighting so hard to get users to be able to record TV in their homes, because they had a stake in it through sales of the device to let you do it, Sony develops ARCOSS because it has the media side to it now. It's a variant on the sell the printers cheap, but, charge through the nose in perpetuity for the ink cartridges needed to run them. Hence why something dumb like claiming the DMCA meant people couldn't use cartridge refill systems because they added circuits to "check" things like ink levels, etc. when they were added in just to use the DMCA as a means to prevent anyone from selling an alternative to their money chain scheme. Sony suddenly didn't care about a user's right to make a backup of a DVD they bought from Sony because Sony would like to just sell you a 2nd one later. Sony sure didn't care about copying DVD's when they SOLD the hardware that enabled it. One of the reasons, I believe, why they got out of the manufacturing of the DRU line and just rebadged LiteOn drives to do it. Because Sony could still profit from the sales of the devices but have the "moral" high ground that they didn't make it. I had one other really fantastic point, but, I lost it.

You need to use PgcEdit to create your disc image if it's a double layer one. ImgTools Classic isn't really right for that job.

Thank you everybody for your input! Unfortuantely the log is gone. More than that, I was too quick to delete the original VOBs too. Now I am trying to restore them in order to repeat the whole way aтв to get the log. There is though another but I am not sure whether it would work. I can rip my copy (the one with glitch) with DVDShrink, get VOB files that can be used to create ISO. Would it be OK? Initially I used VOBEdit, then IFOEdit (created IFO) and finally created ISO with Image Classic Tool 0.91.7 and then burnt it with DVD Decryptor on DVD + R double layer disk. Thank you!

I have used DvdShrink to create my ISO files to be burned with ImgBurn. I have no troubles so far... great program. I must ask about double layer burning ... can ImgBurn do this or will this have to happen before the burning process. And also ... simple question ... if I click the delete image box does that mean that the image will be deleted after it has completed burning??? thanks for any help offered

Father's Day premiered last night. All in all, I liked this one a lot. Probably the 2nd best one of the 2005's I've seen. I could have done without the time monsters, though. Just kept the story on Rose and the Doctor. Rose dealing with her father and the Doctor dealing with a time anomaly. Because I thought they had just as good a story idea in the first half hour. Who wouldn't abuse, if given the chance, a time machine to save a loved one they never had the chance to know? I also loved how they had two sets of travellers in the area. The look on the Doctor and Rose delta prime's faces when Rose came running past them! Rose's motivation for being there at first, not to change history but to just be there so her dad doesn't have to die alone, is a refreshing change. And how Rose soon learned that though her mother told her glowing stories of her dad, he wasn't exactly the saint she made him out to be. Yet, he wasn't exactly the sinner her mother treated him as while he was alive. There were, though, some other problems I can't glance over. Why would ONLY Rose's changing of her father's death NOT be undone when the Doctor restores everyone else to life, as he claims? It seems a bit far fetched that there are time creatures whose job it is to kill anyone on a planet affected by a time anomaly, because that would seem to me to create an even larger one. Still, I have to give this show its points for a strong start and a relatively strong emotional tie with the central characters. While the execution does falter a bit in the last half, it still presented a new look on an old time travel cliche.

I have a dvd ts file about 8 gig that I wanted to burn with ImgBurn (1.3) to a Verbatim +R DL. I converted the file over to an ISO with Foldert2ISO and then got ImgBurn to create an MDS file from this ISO. I didn't make any changes to the file either. I'm up to date with my firmware. What am I doing wrong to get a miscompare at LBA....offset....? Something to do with the layer break perhaps (which I have set to caculate optimal) cheers!

We at Doom9 forums are looking into a experimental layer break format (IE seamless) similar to the way that Superbit DVDs do their layer breaks. What essentially it looks like it does is causes the buffer to remain full enough so when a layer break occurs that there will be no pause or skip as occurs with most layer breaks and most home DVD players. Rolz the developer of PGCedit has added to a beta of his code to make layer breaks seamless with a option set. Using decrypter to burn with manually adding where the layer break occurs (calculated from the sector id used in PGCedit to create the ISO) I have burned several dual layer disks. They all seem to work flawlessly on playback on my home DVD players with no pauses at the breaks. Using IMGburn or Decrypter for that matter and a regular non seamless break (flag 0 or 2 depending on if it is at the start of a vob or not) I would get a slight pause at the break (as expected from any dual layer). This is exciting stuff and I have some questions on IMGburn. First if I use imgburn to burn with the seamless flag on it seems to give a error saying incorrect format. If I set the manual break sector lba (as I do in Decrypter) would it work the same as decrypter and burn anyways and leave the seamless flag set? In any case maybe you could get with Rolz and discuss a way to be able to start imgburn and have it ignore that the break is seamless (like a runtime parameter that would also accept the layer break position)? Now I only have tested several titles due to the expense of dual layer disks, but so far every one burned with the seamless flag set works great in all of my players (no pausing at layer break). Discussion link: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=110426 To the rest of the forum: This is purely experimental and may produce coasters for some of your home DVD players (mainly older ones I would guess) so be warned. Thanks, Jamos

I suspected as much. You're welcome. :-) Now, all DVDMovie and all PS2 DVD images that I've seen are in 1.02 Bridge Format, i.e. contain an ISO9660 FS as well as UDF 1.02. This is detectable, but I'm afraid I cannot provide you with details on exacly how to program it in ImgBurn. Sorry to be using Solaris 9 (UNIX) examples here, I know you guys are likely MS Windows only but bear with me, these are very basic If I create a test UDF-image like this: 1. Create an ordinary file of 100M size called /tmp/test.iso 2. lofiadm -a /tmp/test.iso (this will create a block device called '/dev/lofi/1' pointing to the file) 3. mkudffs -r 0x102 --lvid=test --media-type=hd --u16 /dev/lofi/1 4. mount -Fudfs /dev/lofi/1 /mnt *success* (udfs = ISO13346) If I take an image of any PS2 DVD, which ImgBurn will show as being UDF 1.02: 1. lofiadm -a /tmp/killzone.iso 2. mount -Fudfs /dev/lofi/1 /mnt *fail* 3. mount -Fhsfs /dev/lofi/1 /mnt *success* (hsfs = ISO9660) So it sees that the latter image is Bridge Mode, it is mountable as an ISO9660 filsystem and I can access the files. But I cannot mount it as a UDF 1.02 filesystem. It would be very elegant indeed if ImgBurn can show this "Bridge" info as well in that tooltip! Cheers, /M

Shamus_McFartfinger wrote: > Please supply a download link for the software version numbers that are apparently being > misreported and I?ll have a play with it. Hm, I don't understand what you mean. Define "SW version numbers" in your context. Perhaps you're wondering where to find udftools 1.0.0b2 (or 1.0.0b3 which is the current)? https://sourceforge.net (just search for it). The b3 is very Linux specific, quite a lot of code re-write (cleanup) there compared to b2 so even though I got it to build cleanly after some work, I failed to get it to work on SPARC Solaris 8 and 9 :-( It crashes very early with a Segmentation Violation no matter what I do... Oh well. There are no functional changes between b2 & b3 anyway that I can see, and only the very odd bug that has been fixed. You might also mean links to ISO-image files containing the different versions of UDF: 1.02, 1.50, 2.00, 2.01, 2.50, 2.60 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format (note the passus about Bridge Mode in the text there.) I don't have that, you'll have to create such images yourself -- which is what I did using mkudffs -- and then try them out in ImgBurn. Cheers, /M

Hey, I created an UDF (ISO13346) image like so, with the Linux user space tools package udftools 1.0.0b2: mkudffs -r 0x150 --lvid=test --media-type=hd --u16 /dev/lofi/1 (This was done on Solaris 9 which has a loopback type file device, think "Daemon Tools" if you like) Now, when I load this image to look at it in ImgBurn 1.3.0.0, the tooltip says Volume Identifier: test Application Identifier: Linux mkudffs Implementation Identifier: Linux UDFFS UDF Revision: 1.80 That "8" is wrong, there's no such thing as UDF rev 1.80. Now, either this is a bug in mkudffs 1.0.0b2 (I have looked in the sources and see nothing) or it is ImgBurn that misinterprets what it reads out. I highly suspect that it is ImgBurn, because Solaris support rev 1.50 (only) when using native tools: mkfs -Fudfs -o label=test /dev/rdsk/c4t0d0s2 [...] If I create a similar image with -r 0x0102 or -r 0x0201 ImgBurn displays what I expect. But if I choose rev 2.50, i.e. -r 0x0250, ImgBurn displays 2.80 There's something fishy with this 5 vs 8... Cheers, /M PS. Thans for ImgBurn, great program one needs no other for image burning. Ever.

When I create an ISO DVD File and run Imburn 1.3, I set my Burn Speed at 12 and IMGBURN Burns it at 8 speed. I use Taiyo Yuden 8X DVD-R Media Silver Thermal Lacquer TYG02 8 Speed Media. I can take the same ISO File using Nero 6 at burn it at 12 speed and it burns it in about 6 minutes and when I review the results with Nero's CD-DVD Speed Disk Quality I get Better results with the 12 speed burns. I have tried IMGBURN with the default SPTI - Microsoft Interface and with Nero's ASPI- WNASPI32.DLL and get the same results. However If I Set Imgburn to Burn at Max It Will Make it up 16 speed at the end on DVD and you can see the bad results more PIE Totals and the Jitter results start coming up at the end. So I Can't use MAX Speed in IMGBURN but I Would LIke To use 12 speed The Log file says it's set at 12 speed but still takes 8minutes to burn dvd and screen shows the highest at 8 speed. Is there something I over looking in Imgburn in the settings? #39;( spankie

Jaymac, An MDS is automatically created, I believe, when you do an ISO read to your hard drive. The MDS file is only really used for DL purposes and not SL purposes. LoL Am I even close at answering your question. There is an option in both programs to create an MDS file though.

I understand. Thank you very much for explaining! So, is there no way to create some kind of a checksum, in order to be able to verify the consistency of the data after some time when the ISO is no longer present on the Harddrive? Clavius

OK, I've gone through the nice and simple .ibq format (Saved Queue) (thanks for not using some obscure binary format, or using XML just cause it's a buzzword) And it's very usefull to be able to create my own .ibq file (now that the wierdness in the queue under 1.2 seems to be fixed (Thank You)) My only question is: Is there any way to autostart running through the queue if an ibq is on the command line? The combinations of /START /WAITFORMEDIA etc. I tried had zero success. Hey, those two clicks to get it started, are a REAL chore This is what I've determined is in the .ibq file, correct me if I'm wrong... A header line containing IBQ2 (Image Burn Queue Version 2 perhaps??) followed by a number of lines each containing Device|Speed|Copies|Delete|ImageFilename Device: Device Number (Zero Based) -1 for default. Speed: This seems to be the index number of the items in the speed drop down list, 4x is actually 4, but 56x is 17. again -1 for default Copies: Self explanitory except that 0 or -1 become 1 when the ibq is loaded (if you don't mean to burn the thing, don't put it in the file ) Delete: Delete image file when done, 1 = Yes, 0 = No ImageFilename: path to the image (now there's a real stretch ) If it doesn't exist or isn't a valid image the program complains, but still loads the rest of the list. ie: IBQ2 -1|-1|2|1|\\Xrxdata\dvdbk$\APR19_01.ISO -1|-1|2|1|\\Xrxdata\dvdbk$\APR19_02.ISO -1|-1|1|0|\\Xrxdata\dvdbk$\APR19_EMAIL.ISO Burns 2 copies of and deletes the first two images, 1 copy of the last without deleting it.

Hello All, I have a system I use for burning backups for my XBOX. The process enables me to burn backups to DL media and be able to read them on both my PC and my XBOX. I use Nero to create the ISO, then I used DVD Decryptor, now IMGBURN, to burn the ISO. The reason I use IMGBURN is so that I can change my Book Type. I'm not exactly sure how everything stopped working, but for some reason, When I try to change my booktype, I get an "Unknown: FAILED!" Error. I have always used the Lite-On compatability Tab in the past. Would that have changes when I got the 810A burner? I am running the latest firmware version on my burner which is 1.0d. I have also just acquired the latest version of IMGBURN, which is 1.3.0.0.

unless there is another log file other than the one on the bottom of the prog i see little use for it as it says that all is well burn compleated successfully. And i can do a log of the errors on both failed discs. using dvdinfo. i have since downgraded to ver 1.2 and i am just now doing another burn so will get back on if that works ok or not. i might still be the firmware but would think that if it was then dycripter would create the same errors. ...If i can retrieve the log from the 1.3 ver let me know were it is and i will get it...