Bogwire Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Hi, Most discs resulting from DVD ISO images burned with ImgBurn (version 1.1 and 1.2 tested) on "TDK-002-00" media (gray TDK DVD+R 8x ScratchProof) will fail to work properly. They will not be recognized within Windows Explorer, ImgBurn reads them with a "Status: Incomplete" and Nero InfoTool says "Disc status: Open, not finalized". When the same image has been burned using Nero, however, the resulting disc is fine. Thus, it seems that ImgBurn has problems with those kind of blank media. Anybody aware of this? Thanks.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 I can't imagine for one second this is anything to do with those specific discs - certainly not from an ImgBurn point of view anyway. If they're shown as DVD+R, it'll run all the DVD+R commands. So basically, post your burn log so I can see what the drive thinks and therefore what ImgBurn thinks. It's probably a case of your drive not acting as a drive normally would when you're burning those discs. Again, the log will tell me more. Oh and don't worry, if they're not closed you can easily do that manually via the Tools -> Drive -> Close function.
Bogwire Posted March 7, 2006 Author Posted March 7, 2006 So basically, post your burn log so I can see what the drive thinks and therefore what ImgBurn thinks. It's probably a case of your drive not acting as a drive normally would when you're burning those discs. Again, the log will tell me more.I have not saved the logs, however, I remember that the log did not include any mention about a problem. Is there any other information I can post that might give you useful information? The TDK ScratchProof DVD+R discs are the one and only ones where I observed the mentioned problems so far. However, as said, these problems only occured with ImgBurn but not with Nero, on the same system and burner. ImgBurn also had no problems when other DVD+R media have been used. Oh and don't worry, if they're not closed you can easily do that manually via the Tools -> Drive -> Close function.Thanks for the suggestion, I have already tried that, but without success. ImgBurn issued an error message saying there was an incomplete track on the disc.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 You'd need to issue Close Track, then Close Disc. That's the standard sequence for DVD+R. Burn another one and just give me the log from that. If that's not possible (are they very expensive?), put a blank in the drive and then copy + paste the info from the little window on the right when in ISO Write mode. Thanks Oh and just because Nero works, it doesn't mean there is an actual problem within ImgBurn. It just means Nero found the real problem (it is used by about 10 million more people!) and so added the workaround first
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Oops, forgot to say that if you do manage to do another burn, please press the F8 key before you start so that it enables all the extra debugging info. Then you'll probably have to save the log to a file and attach it - rather than doing a copy + paste job. EDIT: I actually have a couple of those disc... they're TDK-002-00 dye - yes? I have a topic here with the TDK-003-00 dye, they all burnt + verified fine. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=832
Bogwire Posted March 7, 2006 Author Posted March 7, 2006 You'd need to issue Close Track, then Close Disc.When I do Tools -> Drive -> Close -> Track (within Write mode), nothing happens. Trying Tools -> Drive -> Close -> Session, the burner gets busy for a while, but no message appears. Tools -> Drive -> Close -> Disc gives the following error message: (...) Sense Area: (a lot of two-digit groups) Interpretation: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in session The info from the little window on the right (while the problematic disc is inserted) is: PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Incomplete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Supported Write Speeds: 2,4x; 4x; 8x Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: TDK-002-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2.491.711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 If that's not possible (are they very expensive?), put a blank in the drive and then copy + paste the info from the little window on the right when in ISO Write mode. PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2.295.104 Free Space: 4.700.372.992 bytes Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2,4x; 4x; 8x Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: TDK-002-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2.491.711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 The media is available here, for example: http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=265 Thanks for taking a look!
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Looks like the Close Track command just isn't doing its job then. No error means it should be working - or at least according to your drive it is. I would indeed expect the close disc to error out if close track hasn't been performed (AND worked!) beforehand. Please do the F8 thing as mentioned above then try to close the track again. Same goes for close disc. Save the log and attach it in your reply. I believe Nero actually issues a 'Reserve Track' command before it burns on DVD+R, I do not (as according to the specs it's totally optional). I did however add an option in so you could force ImgBurn to issue it. That's about the only thing I can think of that may cause Nero to work and not ImgBurn. That aside, it's the drives problem if it's not dealing with the close track command properly. I'd say a firmware update may help but the drive looks old now so there probably aren't any. Someone else with the same drive / same problem. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=167086
Bogwire Posted March 8, 2006 Author Posted March 8, 2006 Here is the log while trying Close Track and then close Disc: I 00:45:30 ImgBurn Version 1.1.0.0 started! I 00:45:30 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 00:45:30 Initialising SPTI... I 00:45:30 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 00:45:30 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD?RW! W 00:46:14 I/O Interface 'Debug Mode' has been Enabled! I 00:46:14 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 00:46:14 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 00:46:14 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready (above 3 lines repeated many times) E 00:46:57 SENSE: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 72 03 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 E 00:46:57 SENSE Interpretation: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session I 00:46:57 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 00:46:57 CDB: 5B 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 00:46:57 CDB Interpretation: Close Track/Session I 00:46:58 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 00:46:58 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 00:46:58 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready (...) E 00:47:00 SENSE: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 72 03 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 E 00:47:00 SENSE Interpretation: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session I 00:47:01 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 00:47:01 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 00:47:01 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready (...) I believe Nero actually issues a 'Reserve Track' command before it burns on DVD+R, I do not (as according to the specs it's totally optional). I did however add an option in so you could force ImgBurn to issue it. That's about the only thing I can think of that may cause Nero to work and not ImgBurn. Ah, where can I find this option in ImgBurn? That aside, it's the drives problem if it's not dealing with the close track command properly. I'd say a firmware update may help but the drive looks old now so there probably aren't any. Someone else with the same drive / same problem. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=167086 Thanks, yes, my drive seems to have problems, but with other media it usually works fine. I am using the latest firmware and it seems that no new one will ever be released.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Can you try again with the log please and just click File -> Save As this time. You'd cut out bits I needed to see. I knew it was going to be big, that's why I said to attach it rather than copy + paste. As for the 'Reserve Track' option, it's named as such in the settings. Look on the 'Write' tab.
Bogwire Posted March 8, 2006 Author Posted March 8, 2006 OK, I have used ImgBurn 1.1 (because of the resource eating problem with 1.2) which has no "DVD+R Reserve Track" checkbox. I have now noticed that new option in ImgBurn 1.2 and recognized Added: Option to have the 'Reserve Track' command issued when burning DVD+R/+RW format media. Normally it's just issued for DVD-R/-RW media. from 1.2.0.0's Change log. I will try a new burn using 1.2.0.0 with the 'Reserve Track' checkbox enabled tomorrow (I hope) and see if that in fact solves the problem. Regarding Disc closing, I have now been able to repair those discs that ImgBurn burnt "incomplete", using ImgBurn again :-) First, Tools -> Drive -> Close -> Track produced the following Log: I 02:45:24 ImgBurn Version 1.2.0.0 started! I 02:45:24 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 02:45:24 Initialising SPTI... I 02:45:24 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 02:45:24 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD?RW! W 02:45:34 I/O Interface 'Debug Mode' has been Enabled! I 02:45:35 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:35 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:35 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:36 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:36 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:36 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:37 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:37 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:37 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:38 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:38 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:38 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:39 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:39 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:39 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:40 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:40 CDB: 5B 00 01 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:40 CDB Interpretation: Close Track/Session I 02:45:40 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:40 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:40 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:42 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:42 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:42 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:43 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:43 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:43 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 02:45:44 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 02:45:44 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 02:45:44 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready W 02:45:44 I/O Interface 'Debug Mode' has been Disabled! Then, Tools -> Drive -> Close -> Disc: I 03:00:45 ImgBurn Version 1.2.0.0 started! I 03:00:45 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 03:00:45 Initialising SPTI... I 03:00:45 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 03:00:48 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD?RW! W 03:00:58 I/O Interface 'Debug Mode' has been Enabled! I 03:00:58 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:00:58 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:00:58 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 03:00:59 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:00:59 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:00:59 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 03:01:00 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:01:00 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:01:00 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 03:01:01 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:01:01 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:01:01 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 03:01:02 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:01:02 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:01:02 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 03:01:03 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:01:03 CDB: 5B 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:01:03 CDB Interpretation: Close Track/Session I 03:01:03 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:01:33 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:01:33 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 03:01:34 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:01:34 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:01:34 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 03:01:35 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 03:01:35 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 03:01:35 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready W 03:01:36 I/O Interface 'Debug Mode' has been Disabled! Thanks a lot for the suggestion! I am just wondering why nothing will be written into the Log Window per default (when not in Debug mode) regarding the successful Close Track and Close Disc. Also, no message pops up, so normally some will not be able to recognize a successful closing of a Disc.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 There is no way for me to check if it has been successful or not really other than to see if the command was accepted or not. I can but take the drives word for it. In your case, it WAS accepted and came back successful. So basically, next time you burn, check it does actually say 'Closing Track...' and 'Closing Disc...' in the log. If it does and you see no error, the commands have been issued and have both come back as being successful. If it doesn't please send me the FULL log. By full I mean everything from start to finish, not your own custom copy + paste job. Thanks.
Bogwire Posted March 8, 2006 Author Posted March 8, 2006 Following your suggestion, I have now been successful in burning images on the mentioned DVD+R media :-) In fact, the "DVD+R Reserve Track" checkbox (introduced in version 1.2.0.0 but disabled per default) MUST be enabled! I 14:13:43 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 14:13:43 CDB: 53 00 00 00 00 00 22 4A 00 00 I 14:13:43 CDB Interpretation: Reserve Track - Sectors: 2.247.168 I 14:13:58 Filling Buffer... I 14:13:59 Writing LeadIn... I 14:14:00 Writing Image... Then, the track and disc will also be closed successfully: I 14:21:48 Closing Track... I 14:21:48 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 14:21:48 CDB: 5B 01 01 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 I 14:21:48 CDB Interpretation: Close Track/Session I 14:21:49 Finalising Disc... I 14:21:49 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 14:21:49 CDB: 5B 01 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 14:21:49 CDB Interpretation: Close Track/Session Thanks a lot for helping to fix the problem. I would suggest to have the "DVD+R Reserve Track" checkbox enabled per default in the next release of ImgBurn. I'm not sure if there are any situations where it would be useful not to have this feature enabled. If there are none, why not always have it enabled and to remove it to be optional at all.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Turning that option on for your burner to burn that one single bit of media may lead to problems on loads of others. That's why I make these things optional until they've been tried and tested properly.
lfcrule1972 Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 I had some of the TDK Scratchproof discs to test from SVP - they worked ok for me..... Different media ID tho.... http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=685
Bogwire Posted March 9, 2006 Author Posted March 9, 2006 I had some of the TDK Scratchproof discs to test from SVP - they worked ok for me..... Different media ID tho....yes, yours were TDK 8x Scratch-Proof DVD-R and mine are TDK 8x Scratch-Proof DVD+R. As it turned out in this thread, the observed problems have been related to DVD+ media only. BTW, I don't know what the results posted in the "Drives & Media" sub forum are good for (sorry). An explantation on how to reproduce and/or interprete them would be helpful. Thanks.
polopony Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 drives and media ,just like it says different drives burning different media, look at the drive what media its burning then is the operation successfull, will it verify, namely a comparison of the burned disc against the original ISO file then theres the PI/PO tests if the errors are low and the graph is consistent then you have a good match between drive and media and will give you good results .The bottom line is get a great drive ,dont let your wallet decide for you then use Verbatim(mcc dye ) or Taiyo Yuden blanks and it will be a beautifull thing
Bogwire Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 drives and media ,just like it says different drives burning different media, look at the drive what media its burning then is the operation successfull,If there would be a step-by-step HowTo for creating those reports, I would try to post such a report of the TDK 8x ScratchProof DVD+R [TDK-002-00] media on my drive.
Bogwire Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 Following your suggestion, I have now been successful in burning images on the mentioned DVD+R media :-) In fact, the "DVD+R Reserve Track" checkbox (introduced in version 1.2.0.0 but disabled per default) MUST be enabled! Unfortunately, this was not really the fix. ImgBurn 1.2.0.0 once again produced a "Status: Incomplete" disc on the mentioned media, having "DVD+R Reserve Track" enabled. It seems that the problem is caused by the way ImgBurn is trying to close the Disc:I 12:24:15 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:24:15 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:24:15 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready E 12:24:15 SENSE: 71 00 03 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 E 12:24:15 SENSE Interpretation: Write Error I have attached the entire Log of the write process to this post. The error message posted above is only visible in Debug mode. Although this error occurs, ImgBurn finishes with the message "Operation Successfully Completed!". Unfortunately, trying to close the disc manually afterwards also fails: W 12:41:54 I/O Interface 'Debug Mode' has been Enabled! I 12:41:55 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:41:55 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:41:55 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:41:56 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:41:56 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:41:56 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:41:57 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:41:57 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:41:57 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:41:58 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:41:58 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:41:58 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:41:59 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:41:59 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:41:59 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:00 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:00 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:00 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:01 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:01 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:01 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:02 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:02 CDB: 5B 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:02 CDB Interpretation: Close Track/Session I 12:42:02 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:10 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:10 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:11 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:11 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:11 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:12 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:12 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:12 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:13 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:13 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:13 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:14 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:14 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:14 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready E 12:42:15 SENSE: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 E 12:42:15 SENSE Interpretation: Write Error I 12:42:15 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:15 CDB: 5B 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:15 CDB Interpretation: Close Track/Session I 12:42:15 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:15 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:15 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:16 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:16 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:16 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:17 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:17 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:17 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:18 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:18 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:18 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:19 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:19 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:19 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:20 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:20 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:20 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:21 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:21 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:21 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready E 12:42:22 SENSE: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 72 03 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 E 12:42:22 SENSE Interpretation: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session I 12:42:22 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:22 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:22 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready I 12:42:23 [1:0:0] PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (R:) (ATA) I 12:42:23 CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 I 12:42:23 CDB Interpretation: Test Unit Ready W 12:42:24 I/O Interface 'Debug Mode' has been Disabled! Burning the same image on the same kind of media with Nero 7 succeeds, however. Here is Nero's log: Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: - ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02.11.2004 12:54:32 NT-SPTI used Nero Version: 7.0.5.4 Internal Version: 7, 0, 5, 4 Recorder: <PHILIPS DVDR824DP> Version: P3.4 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.5.4 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 Drive buffer : 8192kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ? CD-ROM: <Generic DVD-ROM >Version: 1.0 - HA 1 TA 2 - 7.0.5.4 Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1 === Scsi-Device-Map === DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160P0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVDR824DP atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On DiskPeripheral : GENERIC IDE CARD READER atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347xprt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347xprt Port 2 ID 1 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === PHILIPS DVDR824DP R: CDRom0 Generic DVD-ROM V: CDRom1 Generic DVD-ROM W: CDRom2 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 511MB (523824kB) Free physical memory: 78MB (80300kB) Memory in use : 84 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 11.3.2006 Burn DVD Image 13:07:14 #1 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531 ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory 13:07:14 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124 Reader running 13:07:14 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113 Writer R: PHILIPS DVDR824DP running 13:07:15 #4 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 366 Image was written as DAO. DAOI: MediaCatalogNumber = '' TocType = 0x40 Finalized = 1 First/Last Track = 1 / 1 1: ISRC = '' Blocksize = 2048 TrackMode = 'TRM_DATA_MODE1' TrackConfig = 0x00 First/Last Index = 0 / 1 Index0FilePos = 0, Index1FilePos = 0, NextTrackFilePos = 4681457664 CUES: 0: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 0 (0x00) Index=00 Start=00:00.00 ( 0) RecDep=0x00 1: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=00 Start=00:00.00 ( 0) RecDep=0x00 2: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=01 Start=00:00.00 ( 0) RecDep=0x00 3: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=110 (0xAA) Index=01 Start=507:58.18 ( 2285868) RecDep=0x00 MTYP: Mediumtype = DVD (old format) (0x1C) Image file name: <D:\images\DVDVolume.nrg> 13:07:15 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3341 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media 13:07:15 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 288 Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB) Last address to be written: 2285867 (507:58.17, 4464MB) 13:07:15 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 300 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD) 13:07:15 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2699 Recorder: PHILIPS DVDR824DP, Media type: DVD+R 13:07:15 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 472 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 13:07:15 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - DVD-ROM) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 2285868 (2285868) = #2285868/507:58.18 not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2285868 blocks [R: PHILIPS DVDR824DP] -------------------------------------------------------------- 13:07:15 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059 Prepare recorder [R: PHILIPS DVDR824DP] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 1: 1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681457664, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________ 0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 2285868 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 13:07:15 #12 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME 13:07:15 #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84 SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME 13:07:15 #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730 Burn process started at 8x (11.080 KB/s) 13:07:15 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685 Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 13:07:15 #16 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290 R: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066) Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST) Sense Code: 0x24 Sense Qual: 0x00 CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 04 00 00 Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 24 Buffer x052ab000: Len x804 13:07:15 #17 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666 Start write address at LBA 0 DVD high compatibility mode: Yes 13:15:21 #18 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116 <R: PHILIPS DVDR824DP> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2285868 (22E12Ch), length 0 blocks 13:15:21 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228 all writers idle, stopping conversion 13:15:42 #20 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730 Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11.080 KB/s) Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\scsiport.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=96256 bytes, created 03.08.2004 21:59:42 (Adapter driver for src) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) Thanks for further investigation! ImgBurn__Write_Incomplete.log
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Wow, I've never seen a drive error out like that before. I do not attempt to detect errors once the command has been submitted and 'polling' has begun - the polling is the 'test unit ready' stuff after the 'Close Track/Session' command. The last 'test unit ready' pretty much sums it up though, your drive failed to finalise the disc and returned a generic 'Write Error' as the reason. Whilst I can try to catch the errors during polling, there isn't much I can do if the drive can't finalise the disc. If you look at when you tried it manually, you can see 2 close track/disc commands being issues. The first tries to ensure the most compatible close possible, the second is like a fallback. The first is still erroring out with a 'Write Error'. That then seems to screw the disc up even more because the second errors out saying there is an incomplete track - which there can't have been as the first would have errored out in that way too. What I really don't understand here is why you're happy to admit the program / drive burns all the other media ok and yet you continue to mess around with this combo when it quite obviously doesn't work properly! The Nero log tells me nothing of any use... they're not meant to.
Bogwire Posted March 11, 2006 Author Posted March 11, 2006 What I really don't understand here is why you're happy to admit the program / drive burns all the other media ok and yet you continue to mess around with this combo when it quite obviously doesn't work properly! Because I have thought the problem has gone away by enabling "DVD+R Reserve Track". If I knew that these media could make problems, I would not have bought them, but now I still have some left which I don't want to throw away of course. Maybe the problem will disappear by reducing the write speed from 8x to 4x. I will try. Thanks anyway for taking a look.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 You may also find that if you can somehow burn slightly less you won't be on the outer edges of the media and then you might not get write errors when it's trying to write the lead out stuff. The burn part itself has gone one, so if you can do that, you should be ok. The commands I'm issuing are correct, it's just unlucky that your drive can actually perform the 'close' routines properly. I'm going to look at catching the problems during polling sometime later on today... but again, I only hope this doesn't screw things up for other people!
Bogwire Posted March 12, 2006 Author Posted March 12, 2006 You may also find that if you can somehow burn slightly less you won't be on the outer edges of the media and then you might not get write errors when it's trying to write the lead out stuff.I see, thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to look at catching the problems during polling sometime later on today...Great, thank! One weird thing is that when a manual try for closing an "Incomplete" DVD failed, it may succeed on a later try. The disc will then be fully recognized and works fine, but ImgBurn reads some strange properties from the "Last Recorded" Physical Format Informations: The full info for that disc is PHILIPS DVDR824DP P3.4 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Complete Erasable: No Sessions: 1 Sectors: 2.285.872 Size: 4.681.465.856 bytes Time: 508:00:22 (MM:SS:FF) Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: TDK-002-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2.491.711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: =?U6?6??-???-21 Book Type: DVD-ROM Part Version: 6 Disc Size: Reserved (0x08) Maximum Read Rate: 30.24Mbps Number of Layers: Reserved (0x03) Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP) Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit Track Density: Reserved (0x08) First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2.482.479 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0
LIGHTNING UK! Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 Again, I think that goes back to it not really closing the discs properly - especially if it fails and then works on a subsequent attempt.
Bogwire Posted March 12, 2006 Author Posted March 12, 2006 If there would be a step-by-step HowTo for creating those reports, I would try to post such a report of the TDK 8x ScratchProof DVD+R [TDK-002-00] media on my drive. OK, I have now figured out how to produce the reports and images found in the "Drives & Media" sub forum, on a DVD created via ImgBurn's Discovery Mode (although I'm sure an explantation would still be helpful for others). Should I post my results there?
lfcrule1972 Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 I would post them here, if you mean the logs and graphs, then if needed Lightning UK! can move them to the drives/media forum
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