10x CD burns at 4x

geo har · July 31, 2009

2.5.0.0

set speed to AWS or MAX on 10x CD

it burns at 4x

return to 2.4.4.0

it burns at 10x

Edited July 31, 2009 by geo har

**LIGHTNING UK!** · July 31, 2009

please post the complete log from 2.5.0.0 and also the disc info from the panel on the right when you're back on the main Write mode screen.

**spinningwheel** · July 31, 2009

Discs do not start out at the requested speed, especially if it's set to burn at max. The disc has to ramp up to the speed selected. Look at your completion bar in your submitted jpegs. The 2.4.4.0 is nearly twice as far in the graph as the 2.5.0.0. Look at the completion data once the disc has been verified and you should see the final speeds obtained...oh yea...get back to 2.5.0.0 as we do not support earlier versions in the least. :thumbup:

edit: rats too slow.... =)) =))

geo har · July 31, 2009

I did wait till drive gets up to speed, as you can see the time is about the same 1min

I was wondering why the CDs were taking longer than the usual

10 mins = 8min burn + 2min verify

BTW I've kept 2.4.4.0 settings.

shall try NOT keeping them if all else fails.

here is another screen shot to show that the amount burnt doesn't matter

now have to work out how to get to the log file & disk info

:mellow:

Edited July 31, 2009 by geo har

**spinningwheel** · July 31, 2009

The laws of physics will always prevail. The inside of the disc spins slower than the outside (distance and data write space available). :thumbup:

Where is the 2.5.0.0 log as requested by the :worthy: Boss ???

geo har · July 31, 2009

; //****************************************\\

; ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 - Log

; Saturday, 01 August 2009, 01:05:44

; \\****************************************//

;

I 01:02:49 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!

I 01:02:49 Microsoft Windows Vista Business Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2)

I 01:02:49 Total Physical Memory: 2,611,352 KB - Available: 1,726,632 KB

I 01:02:49 Initialising SPTI...

I 01:02:49 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 01:02:49 Found 1 DVD

geo har · July 31, 2009

ASUS DRW-2014L1 1.01 (ATA)

Current Profile: CD-RW

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: Yes

Sessions: 1

Sectors: 340,720

Size: 697,794,560 bytes

Time: 75:44:70 (MM:SS:FF)

Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 10x

TOC Information:

Session 1... (LBA: 0 - 340719)

-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 340719)

-> LeadOut (LBA: 340720)

ATIP Information:

Disc ID: 97m34s23f

Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.

Start Time of LeadIn: 97m34s23f

Last Possible Start Time of LeadOut: 79m59s74f

Format Capacities:

DT: 0x02 - NB: 340720 (0x000532F0) - TDP: 2048

FT: 0x10 - NB: 0 (0x00000000) - TDP: 5160905

FT: 0x11 - NB: 0 (0x00000000) - TDP: 5160905

FT: 0x12 - NB: 0 (0x00000000) - TDP: 5160905

Performance (Write Speed):

Descriptor 1...

-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)

-> RS: 2,816 KB/s (16x) - WS: 704 KB/s (4x)

Descriptor 2...

-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)

-> RS: 2,816 KB/s (16x) - WS: 1,760 KB/s (10x)

geo har · July 31, 2009

at least now I know how to get this info :horse:

thx for your quick response.

I need to remember to follow the advice not to use .0 versions

wait till .1 at least.

I shall wait till 2.5.1.0

Edited July 31, 2009 by geo har

geo har · July 31, 2009

ASUS DRW-2014L1 1.01 (ATA)

Current Profile: CD-RW

Disc Information:

Status: Complete

Erasable: Yes

Sessions: 1

Sectors: 340,720

Size: 697,794,560 bytes

Time: 75:44:70 (MM:SS:FF)

Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 10x

TOC Information:

Session 1... (LBA: 0 - 340719)

-> Track 01 (Mode 1, LBA: 0 - 340719)

-> LeadOut (LBA: 340720)

ATIP Information:

Disc ID: 97m34s23f

Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.

Start Time of LeadIn: 97m34s23f

Last Possible Start Time of LeadOut: 79m59s74f

Format Capacities:

DT: 0x02 - NB: 340720 (0x000532F0) - TDP: 2048

FT: 0x10 - NB: 0 (0x00000000) - TDP: 5160905

FT: 0x11 - NB: 0 (0x00000000) - TDP: 5160905

FT: 0x12 - NB: 0 (0x00000000) - TDP: 5160905

Performance (Write Speeds):

Descriptor 1...

-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)

-> RS: 1,408 KB/s (8x) - WS: 704 KB/s (4x)

Descriptor 2...

-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00

-> EL: 359834 (0x00057D9A)

-> RS: 1,408 KB/s (8x) - WS: 1,760 KB/s (10x)

geo har · July 31, 2009

BTW there is a difference in the Disc info in the when using Build vs Write

Performance (Write Speeds):

vs

Performance (Write Speed):

note the extra "s" in the Build mode, <Device> tab, Disc info.

geo har · July 31, 2009

working out how to delete posts

Edited July 31, 2009 by geo har

**spinningwheel** · July 31, 2009

I 01:04:01 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 341775)

I 01:05:28 Abort Request Acknowledged

I looked and didn't find a newer firmware so it looks like your burner is up to date.

I looked that the Verbatim MCC identifier and ithe discs have a slightly mixed set of reviews, but not really all that bad.

Why did you abort 87 seconds into the burn?

I need to remember to follow the advice not to use .0 versions

ImgBurn goes through a serious amount of testing before a new release is issued, so the .0 remark is really not necessary or on topic.

**spinningwheel** · July 31, 2009

working out how to delete posts

Nope, just like ringing a bell...once it rings you can't take it back..... :teehee:

Later all, almost quitting time and I have to get home...have a nice weekend.

geo har · July 31, 2009

thx for checking out burner firmware for me

also CD quality

I'm waiting for the CDs to die, won't be buying more of them

since DVDs burn at a faster rate & have more capacity.

BTW DVDs burn OK.

> Why did you abort 87 seconds into the burn?

taking too long

have a real thing about time.

can sense when things are not taking the same amount of time as before.

Edited July 31, 2009 by geo har

**Cynthia** · July 31, 2009

I have the same discs (media code) as you have and these can be burned at 10x with ver 2.5.0.0. I guess it's Verbatims you also have?

You are burning on the fly. If you create an image first when you are in build mode (set output device to Image File) and then burn the created image file in the write mode - do you get any faster speeds then?

I 19:56:39 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 19:56:39 Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2)

I 19:56:39 Total Physical Memory: 2

geo har · July 31, 2009

thx Cynthia for your reply :innocent:

> I have the same discs (media code) as you have and these can be burned at 10x with ver 2.5.0.0. I guess it's Verbatims you also have?

They are TDK CD-RW80HS High Speed 700MB

on the label it says 4 - 12x MultiSpeed Compatible

but I've never seen it burn at 12x.

has always been 4x or 10x.

> You are burning on the fly. If you create an image first when you are in build mode (set output device to Image File) and then burn the created image file in the write mode - do you get any faster speeds then?

just tried creating image file & burning,

still 4x

I think I shall try deleting my settings in:

C:\Users\e\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\

Edited July 31, 2009 by geo har

**Cynthia** · July 31, 2009

The only thing in the 2.5.0.0 version that I could find in the change log that might could trigger this odd behavior is this

Changed: When burning a CD, the program will now also issue the 'SET STREAMING' command (where supported and in addition to the existing 'SET CD SPEED' one) to set the write speed.

What would happen if you set the write speed to 10x instead of MAX in the write speed selection box?

geo har · July 31, 2009

have deleted settings, uninstalled / reinstalled ImgBurn

4x

can't wait till 2.5.1.0

didn't have this trouble with previous versions

will try 10x as you suggest.

I am a canary, tend to be one of the first to pick up errors in s'ware.

It is a challenge.

at least I'burn doesn't hog the CPU like burnaware 2.3.8

they said that they will fix this 100% CPU usage in 3.0.x

just tried 10x speed

same.

I shall leave this for now & go back to 2.4.4.0

thx 4 your help :pirate:

looks like I'm not the only one with slow MAX speeds

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtop...mp;#entry100527

at least this has got me to review my setup instructions.

:ninja:

it is good to test one's insurance policy from time to time to make sure that they will pay up when the time comes.

Edited August 1, 2009 by geo har

Dstruct · August 2, 2009

Same problem here. Tried to burn a DVD (supported up to 16x) at 16x speed but ImgBurn only burned at 4x!?

**Cynthia** · August 3, 2009

Same problem here. Tried to burn a DVD (supported up to 16x) at 16x speed but ImgBurn only burned at 4x!?

Can you post a log of such a burn?

Dstruct · August 3, 2009

Same problem here. Tried to burn a DVD (supported up to 16x) at 16x speed but ImgBurn only burned at 4x!?

Can you post a log of such a burn?

I'll try to (tomorrow) ...

**dontasciime** · August 4, 2009

you already have the log

Dstruct · August 4, 2009

you already have the log

?

Dstruct · August 7, 2009

Same problem here. Tried to burn a DVD (supported up to 16x) at 16x speed but ImgBurn only burned at 4x!?

Can you post a log of such a burn?

Ok, I did another burn using the same DVD-R media. This time it was burning faster than 4x. But I'm not sure if it burned at selected 16x this time!?

The logs:

PHILIPS DVDR1648P1 P2.4 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-R

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 2.298.496
Free Space: 4.707.319.808 bytes
Free Time: 510:48:46 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2,4x; 4x; 8x; 12x; 16x

Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: MCC 03RG20

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196.608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Performance (Write Speeds):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 7.181 KB/s (5,3x) - WS: 3.324 KB/s (2,4x)
Descriptor 2...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 7.181 KB/s (5,3x) - WS: 5.540 KB/s (4x)
Descriptor 3...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 7.181 KB/s (5,3x) - WS: 11.080 KB/s (8x)
Descriptor 4...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 7.181 KB/s (5,3x) - WS: 16.620 KB/s (12x)
Descriptor 5...
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 2298495 (0x0023127F)
-> RS: 7.181 KB/s (5,3x) - WS: 22.160 KB/s (16x)

I 22:55:34 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!

I 22:55:34 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)

I 22:55:34 Total Physical Memory: 1.570.540 KB - Available: 1.245.056 KB

I 22:55:34 Initialising SPTI...

I 22:55:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 22:55:34 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD

**dontasciime** · August 7, 2009

Firmware in the Philip's drive is not really geared towards the media you are using. eg 2.4x on dvd-r is not valid and the firmware has just turned 3 years old, maybe time for a new drive

Also what about the solidburn slowing stuff down as per it's job.

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