Rincewind Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Normally when I create a DVD VIDEO disc I usually just ignore AUDIO_TS and have VIDEO_TS by itself. All of my discs play just fine with my player, and most of these however are single layered. I have noticed something though... All of my dual layered DVD VIDEO discs without AUDIO_TS in my player come up listing the contents of the disc, rather than playing them. Since I have an LG burner DVD-ROM is automatically set of course, but instead of stating the disc is a DVD, it states CDROM and just lists the directory and it's contents. Of course I also verify the discs I burn. Anyways though, today I decided to try an experiment. I had some DL discs with video on them that I burned years ago, these are not Verbatim Discs. I chose one, it was labeled Kung Fu Hustle burnt on a Memorex Disc (DISC ID is RITEK). I let Imgburn copy the image fully, and I burned it to a Verbatim disc (MKM). The disc in question though did have an AUDIO_TS directory. Also to note that the disc in question was burnt way before I even heard of Imgburn (used Nero) AND burned on a slimeline (notebook drive) no less , nevermind LUK's opinion on slimelines . That particular disc (Memorex-Ritek) plays on my dvd player. Here is the log though listing first the burn/verify, prior to that the the copy operation performed with the +R DL disc. ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log ; Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 18:54:51 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 18:22:01 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started! I 18:22:01 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3) I 18:22:01 Total Physical Memory: 523,760 KB - Available: 184,492 KB I 18:22:01 Initialising SPTI... I 18:22:01 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:22:01 -> Drive 1 - Info: DTSOFT BDROM 1.05 (F:) (Virtual) I 18:22:01 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 2.00 (D:) (ATA) I 18:22:01 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM! I 18:22:17 Operation Started! I 18:22:17 Source File: E:\CD Rip\KUNG_FU_HUSTLE.DVD I 18:22:17 Source File Sectors: 3,790,304 (MODE1/2048) I 18:22:17 Source File Size: 7,762,542,592 bytes I 18:22:17 Source File Volume Identifier: KUNG_FU_HUSTLE I 18:22:17 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 36bfb3a2 I 18:22:17 Source File Implementation Identifier: Daikin U.S. Comtec Lab I 18:22:17 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 18:22:17 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 2.00 (D:) (ATA) I 18:22:17 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x) I 18:22:17 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824 I 18:22:17 Write Mode: DVD I 18:22:17 Write Type: DAO I 18:22:17 Write Speed: 8x I 18:22:17 Link Size: Auto I 18:22:17 Lock Volume: Yes I 18:22:17 Test Mode: No I 18:22:17 OPC: Yes I 18:22:17 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:22:17 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x) I 18:22:17 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM I 18:22:25 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,895,152 I 18:22:25 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc I 18:22:25 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded! I 18:22:25 Filling Buffer... (75 MB) I 18:22:26 Writing LeadIn... I 18:22:56 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3790303) I 18:22:56 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3790303) I 18:22:56 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1895151) I 18:31:53 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1895152 - 3790303) I 18:40:05 Synchronising Cache... I 18:40:30 Closing Track... I 18:40:31 Finalising Disc... I 18:41:12 Image MD5: fc12469a634450852c73bb7de45a49c3 I 18:41:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:18:54 I 18:41:12 Average Write Rate: 7,374 KB/s (5.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,185 KB/s (8.1x) I 18:41:12 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 18:41:21 Waiting for device to become ready... I 18:41:37 Device Ready! I 18:41:38 Operation Started! I 18:41:38 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 2.00 (D:) (ATA) I 18:41:38 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-003-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x, 10x) I 18:41:38 Image File: E:\CD Rip\KUNG_FU_HUSTLE.DVD I 18:41:38 Image File Sectors: 3,790,304 (MODE1/2048) I 18:41:38 Image File Size: 7,762,542,592 bytes I 18:41:38 Image File Volume Identifier: KUNG_FU_HUSTLE I 18:41:38 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 36bfb3a2 I 18:41:38 Image File Implementation Identifier: Daikin U.S. Comtec Lab I 18:41:38 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 18:41:38 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 18:41:38 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3790303) I 18:41:38 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3790303) I 18:41:38 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1895151) I 18:47:19 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1895152 - 3790303) I 18:52:51 Device MD5: fc12469a634450852c73bb7de45a49c3 I 18:52:51 Image MD5: fc12469a634450852c73bb7de45a49c3 I 18:52:58 File Successfully Deleted: E:\CD Rip\KUNG_FU_HUSTLE.ISO I 18:52:58 File Successfully Deleted: E:\CD Rip\KUNG_FU_HUSTLE.DVD I 18:52:58 File Successfully Deleted: E:\CD Rip\KUNG_FU_HUSTLE.MDS I 18:52:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:13 I 18:52:58 Average Verify Rate: 11,263 KB/s (8.1x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16,305 KB/s (11.8x) I 18:54:51 Close Request Acknowledged I 18:54:51 Closing Down... I 18:54:51 Shutting down SPTI... I 18:54:51 ImgBurn closed! ; ; ; //****************************************\\ ; ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 - Log ; Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 18:21:11 ; \\****************************************// ; ; I 18:08:11 ImgBurn Version 2.5.5.0 started! I 18:08:11 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3) I 18:08:11 Total Physical Memory: 523,760 KB - Available: 149,104 KB I 18:08:11 Initialising SPTI... I 18:08:11 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:08:11 -> Drive 1 - Info: DTSOFT BDROM 1.05 (F:) (Virtual) I 18:08:11 -> Drive 2 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 2.00 (D:) (ATA) I 18:08:11 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM! I 18:09:08 Operation Started! I 18:09:08 Source Device: [1:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NP20 2.00 (D:) (ATA) I 18:09:08 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 4x) I 18:09:08 Source Media Sectors: 3,790,304 (Track Path: OTP - L0: 1,895,152 - L1: 1,895,152) I 18:09:08 Source Media Size: 7,762,542,592 bytes I 18:09:08 Source Media Volume Identifier: KUNG_FU_HUSTLE I 18:09:08 Source Media Volume Set Identifier: 36bfb3a2 I 18:09:08 Source Media Implementation Identifier: Daikin U.S. Comtec Lab I 18:09:08 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 18:09:08 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 18:09:08 Destination File: E:\CD Rip\KUNG_FU_HUSTLE.ISO I 18:09:08 Destination Free Space: 150,530,592,768 Bytes (147,002,532 KB) (143,557 MB) (140 GB) I 18:09:08 Destination File System: NTFS I 18:09:08 File Splitting: Auto I 18:09:12 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3790303) I 18:09:12 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3790303) I 18:09:12 Reading Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1895151) I 18:15:09 Reading Layer 1... (LBA: 1895152 - 3790303) I 18:20:59 Image MD5: fc12469a634450852c73bb7de45a49c3 I 18:21:00 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:11:51 I 18:21:00 Average Read Rate: 10,661 KB/s (7.7x) - Maximum Read Rate: 21,976 KB/s (15.9x) I 18:21:05 Close Request Acknowledged I 18:21:05 Closing Down... I 18:21:11 Shutting down SPTI... I 18:21:11 ImgBurn closed! ; ; So basically my question is this: Why do all my single layered discs without an AUDIO_TS directory play just fine, yet I actually have to have AUDIO_TS for my player to play my +R DLs? I know AUDIO_TS is for compatibility for older players, but again if my player doesn't care about single layered discs having the directory, why does it just go to the directory listing on DLs without AUDIO_TS, but then actually plays a DL disc WITH AUDIO_TS? Edited October 12, 2011 by Rincewind
LIGHTNING UK! Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Sorry Rincewind, I don't know how we can answer that question! You're right, it makes no sense that it would work fine with SL media missing the AUDIO_TS folder but not DL media. Is there no firmware update available for your player or anything? Have you tried contacting the manufacturer about the issue?
Rincewind Posted October 12, 2011 Author Posted October 12, 2011 Its ok, I know this is one of those really odd ball issues . As far as firmware updates are concerned they are not any for either my burner or player. The player in question is a cheapo Polaroid player anyways, which kinda surprises me that it would even support +R DL media at all. The only glitch in my situation is I have a sizable amount of +R DL media with videos that to me is just not feasible to reburn on new media with AUDIO_TS. I'm in the market for a new player anyways since this one is acting up, so unfortunately I might have to go get a bluray player (or maybe I can still get away with a progressive scan dvdplayer). I'm not too interested in bluray video due to DRM rubbish. But I can at least take some of the discs that don't have the AUDIO_TS with me (+R DLs), and ask the workers at the store to see if I can at least try the discs before playing . Or if bluray players don't care either way I may just get a bluray player. Only reason I would get a bluray player is for upscaling, presumably if they do a decent job on DVD Video. I have also seen commercial DVDs now anyways that do not even include AUDIO_TS, I know Ice Age doesn't have that directory and it obviously works in dvdplayers since it is a commercially stamped player.
Altercuno Posted October 12, 2011 Posted October 12, 2011 Some blu-ray players have MKV support which might be useful, and a usb port for playing off a memory stick
Rincewind Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 USB might be handy, would be pretty cool if it could interface with an external HD . I know even DVD players support playback of some media files on disc, JPGs, MP3s, mine does too. I don't really care about DiVX/XVid though, and never messed with Matroska(MKV) files. I tend to stay away from those formats, especially set top players that claim to support such files only because I know DiVX/XVid is once in a while updated and any videos encoded in newer codecs may not play or play correctly on set top players. Sure there might be firmware updates for players now, but I find it more of a hassle so I would rather stick with the standard MPEG2 compliant DVD or MPEG4/VC-1 if I really have to go bluray video. Heck I don't even want a player that does BD-LIVE because I don't need it, nor a bluray 3D player. I don't feel like having a headache after watching a show or film .
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