healer Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 I have had Test Mode enabled and got the following error message for this particular image after choosing "Write until end of image (Overburn). I am not too sure what overburn is. Does it mean to write to the area of same DVD where it is not supposed to write or will it ask for the next DVD when it gets to the end of the first one? Shouldn't a DVD of 4.7GB be able to take in an image of the below reported size? Imgburn reports the following. There doesn't appear to be enough space on the disc to burn this image. Image Size 2,377,952 (4,644 MB) Disc Size: 2,298,496 Sectors (4,489 MB) __________ I/O Error! ScsiStatus: 0x02 Interpretation: Check Condition CDB: 53 00 00 00 00 00 24 48 E0 00 Interpretation: Reserve Track - Sectors: 2,377,952 Sense Area: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 00 00 SK Interpretation: Illegal Request ASC/ASCQ Interpretation: Invalid Field in CDB _____________________________________________ Failed to Reserve Track! Reason: Invalid Field in CDB ____________________________ LOG I 12:11:36 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started! I 12:11:36 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1) I 12:11:36 Total Physical Memory: 3,664,796 KB - Available: 2,397,520 KB W 12:11:36 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. I 12:11:36 Initialising SPTI... I 12:11:36 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:11:36 -> Drive 1 - Info: DTSOFT BDROM 1.05 (E:) (Virtual) I 12:11:37 -> Drive 2 - Info: hp DVD RW AD-7701H 2.85 (D:) (SATA) I 12:11:37 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM! W 12:13:14 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to overburn! I 12:13:14 Operation Started! I 12:13:14 Source File: C:\Users\%username%\Videos\image.iso I 12:13:14 Source File Sectors: 2,377,952 (MODE1/2048) I 12:13:15 Source File Size: 4,870,045,696 bytes I 12:13:15 Source File Volume Identifier: volumeID I 12:13:15 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 506B33B1 (GEAR): I 12:13:15 Source File Application Identifier: GEAR UDF Application I 12:13:15 Source File Implementation Identifier: GEAR UDF I 12:13:15 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:13:15 Destination Device: [0:0:0] hp DVD RW AD-7701H 2.85 (D:) (SATA) I 12:13:15 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: PRINCORGM1) I 12:13:15 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x, 8x I 12:13:15 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 12:13:15 Write Mode: DVD I 12:13:15 Write Type: DAO I 12:13:15 Write Speed: MAX I 12:13:15 Link Size: Auto I 12:13:15 Lock Volume: Yes I 12:13:15 Test Mode: Yes I 12:13:15 OPC: No I 12:13:15 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 12:13:15 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 11,080 KB/s (8x)
Cynthia Posted January 16, 2013 Posted January 16, 2013 It's no good to overburn a DVD Video Compliant image. If the disc is just 2,298,496 amount of sectors big, that's how big it is. Use a program such as DVD Shrink (freeware) to "shrink" the image down in size to fit your discs, and then burn the image/files that program creates with ImgBurn.
healer Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 Before going out to buy another lot of DVD blanks again or using some software to shrink the image down in size I have been trying to establish whether this is the source DVD problem resulting in faulty image or the destination DVD problem. Since I created the image from a DVD, then there is no reason the same image wouldn't fit in a blank DVD. Either the source image is wrong though I still can play the movie straight from the image using Daemon Tools Lite without any issue or the destination DVD blanks is faulty. As far as I can see the destination has appropriate number of Media Sectors which is 2298496 in this case. How could ImgBurn create an image from a DVD bigger than a DVD can hold? When I use DVD Shrink 3.2 to shrink, it doesn't take the ISO image but the folder where I have all the files copied over. Nevertheless, it doesn't work saying "DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue. Failed to open the file "C:\Users\%username%\Videos\movie_name\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.VOB The system cannot find the file specified." I put the original DVD in the drive again and try find the specified file. No, it is not there. I don't know what dictates such requirement, thinking I could possibly bypass such requisite but I can't. The DVD still plays all right, though.
healer Posted January 17, 2013 Author Posted January 17, 2013 It's no good to overburn a DVD Video Compliant image. What is overburn anyway? If no good, why is the option available?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Maybe the source DVD was actually a double layer disc?
healer Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 Well, I checked the property of the DVD inserted. It says "Used space: 5,013,108,736 bytes 4,66GB". So it is less than 4.7GB. Shouldn't it be a single-layer disc?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 No, that's double layer. Discs are 4.37GB in size. The 4.7 is just something they calculate by using 1000 bytes = 1kb rather than 1024 bytes as we normally use in computing.
healer Posted January 20, 2013 Author Posted January 20, 2013 No, that's double layer. Discs are 4.37GB in size. The 4.7 is just something they calculate by using 1000 bytes = 1kb rather than 1024 bytes as we normally use in computing. If we should regard 1KB=1024bytes, then we should get more not less, i.e. 4.7*1024*1024=4928307.2 bytes. According to RhoTrux64's message #8 at http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=21084#entry146014, he said 4707319808 bytes for single-layer disc. Apart from going by the total number of bytes we can find on the disc, is there any other way to determine if the disc is double-layer instead of single-layer? Just in case the reading process is faulty due to computer fault or disc fault.
healer Posted January 20, 2013 Author Posted January 20, 2013 I have copied all the files from the DVD to the hard disc just to ascertain for sure if the disc has the capacity of more than a single-layer's can hold. The size is 4,868,734,976 bytes. So it definitely looks like from DL DVD. When I try to burn it I choose to continue anyway. I expect it would simply do until it fills the DVD. Why do I get the I/O error then? Somehow it doesn't ask me whether I choose overburn this time. By the way, if everything all right, can I burn the contents of a DL DVD to two SL DVDs and will they work if they are video of one movie?
Cynthia Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 There is a difference between kilobytes (KB) and thousands of bytes, megabytes (MB) and millions of bytes, and gigabytes (GB) and billions of bytes. All DVD and hard drive manufacturers say GB where they should say BB (billions of bytes). 1 KB = 1024 bytes 1 MB = 1024*1024 KB = 1,048,576 bytes 1 GB = 1024*1024 MB = 1,048,576 KB = 1,073,741,824 bytes A 74-minute CD-R disc has 333,000 sectors, 2048 bytes each; it holds 333,000*2048=681,984,000 bytes, or 333,000*2=666,000 KB, or 333,000/512=650.39 MB of data. An 80-minute CD-R disc has 360,000 sectors, 2048 bytes each; it holds 360,000*2048=737,280,000 bytes, or 360,000*2=720,000 KB, or 360,000/512=703.13 MB of data. The most common 12 cm DVD-R disc has 2,298,496 sectors, 2048 bytes each; it holds 2,298,496*2048=4,707,319,808 bytes, or 2,298,496*2=4,596,992 KB, or 2,298,496/512=4489.25 MB, or 2,298,496/(512*1024)=4.38 GB of data. The most common 12 cm DVD+R disc has 2,295,104 sectors, 2048 bytes each; it holds 2,295,104*2048=4,700,372,992 bytes, or 2,295,104*2=4,590,208 KB, or 2,295,104/512=4482.63 MB, or 2,295,104/(512*1024)=4.38 GB of data. http://club.myce.com/f92/quirkiness-drive-2-questions-133710/#post950293
healer Posted January 20, 2013 Author Posted January 20, 2013 The most common 12 cm DVD-R disc has 2,298,496 sectors, 2048 bytes each; it holds 2,298,496*2048=4,707,319,808 bytes, or 2,298,496*2=4,596,992 KB, or 2,298,496/512=4489.25 MB, or 2,298,496/(512*1024)=4.38 GB of data. The most common 12 cm DVD+R disc has 2,295,104 sectors, 2048 bytes each; it holds 2,295,104*2048=4,700,372,992 bytes, or 2,295,104*2=4,590,208 KB, or 2,295,104/512=4482.63 MB, or 2,295,104/(512*1024)=4.38 GB of data. Thanks Cynthia, I should have known better. It was my careless mistake I knew that giga denotes a factor of 230. I also thank for the details of 12cm DVD disc. It is very misleading when they label the DVDs having 4.7GB capacity.
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