Can't write HD DVD-RW?

[Nagi]

Does ImgBurn support to write to HD DVD-RW?

I tried to write files into a blank HD DVD-RW medium (15GB), but error occurred.
It said "Medium not formatted."

Next I burnt files onto it by "Toshiba Disc Creator" on Qosmio G40 and succeeded.
Then I tried to burn files by ImgBurn again.
First it started erasing, but then the same error occurred.   

I changed "Write Mode" to "HD DVD", or "Write Type" to DAO/SAO, TAO, or Incremental, but all failed.

See the error dialog and logs below.

 

failed HD DVD-RW.log

[LIGHTNING UK!]

I don't recall having ever seen a HD DVDRW disc before, and as it's a dead format, I don't suppose I will again.

 

Your drive seems to think the disc needs formatting - as it's the one rejecting the write commands and returning that error code / reason.

 

All I can suggest is that you try doing a full erase on the disc and see what happens.

 

I'd be interested to see the disc info from the box on the right when you're in Write mode. Could you copy and paste all of it for me please?

[Nagi]

Thank you for your reply.

I don't think erasing makes sense because I used an brand-new:) disc first, as I wrote.

But I'll try later.

 

The below is the message on the right when I inserted the HD DVD-RW medium in the write mode.

This medium supports AACS.

Please feel free to request me additional information.

 

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TOSHIBA DVD/HDW SD-L912A TF30 (ATA)
Current Profile: HD DVD-RW

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
State of Last Session: Empty
Erasable: Yes
Free Sectors: 7,361,600
Free Space: 15,076,556,800 bytes
Free Time: 1635:56:50 (MM:SS:FF)
MID: RITEK-HD-RW-S11
Supported Write Speeds: 1x

Disc Manufacturing Information:
Manufacturer: RITEK CORPORATION
Manufactured: TAIWAN
Manufacturer ID: RITEK-HD-RW-S11

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: HD DVD-RW
Part Version: 3
Disc Size: 120 mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.153 um/bit
Track Density: 0.40 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Format Capacities:
DT: 0x01 - NB: 7361600 (0x00705440) - TDP: 2048
FT: 0x00 - NB: 7361600 (0x00705440) - TDP: 2048
FT: 0x10 - NB: 7361600 (0x00705440) - TDP: 32
FT: 0x15 - NB: 7361600 (0x00705440) - TDP: 32
FT: 0x19 - NB: 7361600 (0x00705440) - TDP: 32

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1...
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 7361599 (0x0070543F)
-> RS: 4,568 KB/s (1x) - WS: 4,568 KB/s (1x)
 

[LIGHTNING UK!]

DVD+RW and BD-RE both need formatting before first use, so it's nothing unusual.

 

In any case, the drive's error message suggests that's what needs to happen

[Nagi]

I full-erased the disc by

Menu: Tool->Drive->Erase Disc->Full

But it occurred the same error on Write mode and Build mode.

Please see attached files, Erase log, DiscInfo after full-erase and Log of Build mode.

 

Should I need to try another type of Erase?

 

3-1 Erase full.log

3-2-0 DiscInfo after Erase full.txt

3-2-1Build mode.log

[Nagi]

Actually, I succeeded to burn files in Build mode before trying full erase.

Here's what I did.
1. Format HD DVD-RW by right-clicking the drive icon on Explorer.
2. It took 1 or 2 hours but an error was shown. It said "Windows couldn't finish formatting." Then the drive LED kept lighting and I couldn't do anything for the disc. So I restarted PC.
3. I tried to burn ISO image in Write mode but it said "The disc needs to be erased". I canceled. (I know it was failed before.)
4. I tried to copy a file to the disc by Explorer and it succeeded!! I deleted the file.
5. I tried to burn files in Build mode. It succeeded!!

Please refer to the attached images and logs.
It seems ImgBurn can't do "format". (Creating file system?)


And still failed in Write mode (ISO image).
Do you have any opinion or idea?

2-2ImgBurn DiscInfo2AfterFormatFailed.txt

2-4ImgBurn DiscInfo3AfterCopyFileAndDelete.txt

2-5build OK HD DVD-RW.log

2-5ImgBurn DiscInfo4AfterBurning.txt

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Windows formatting has left the disc in an 'incomplete' state and I'd say that's why it's now accepting the 'write' commands.

 

There should be no difference between write and build mode as they use the same code to burn.

 

I'd love to get it working properly but HD DVD stuff is so hard to come by these days. Even if I had a drive, I don't know where to get a HD DVDRW disc from.

[Nagi]

I could burn ISO image in Write Mode, too.
I'll share what I did in case.

4-1. I full-erased by Menu: Tool->Drive->Erase Disc->Full
4-2. I double-clicked the drive icon, and then the attached message was shown.
It was like the following in English:

"Burn a Disc"
     How do you want to use the disc?
       [ ] Like a USB flash drive
       [ ] With a CD/DVD players   <--Grayed out. Can't choose

I checked "Like a USB flash drive" and clicked Next.
After half an hour or so, "Windows couldn't finished formatting" was shown like before.
The drive LED kept lighting and I couldn't eject and do anything else. So I restarted PC again.

4-3. I tried to double-click drive icon. The same message "Burn a Disc" shown. I canceled. (It means files can't be written by Explorer. If interested in, try to compare "4-3-0DiscInfo After USB drive.txt" with "2-2ImgBurn DiscInfo2AfterFormatFailed.txt")
4-4. I tried to burn ISO image in Write mode. It started writing!!


I succeeded burning ISO twice, but failed once.


By the way, what I wanted to do was to "Overburn" ISO movie image.
As the result, the created disc can't be read by Explorer, etc.
I also tried "Truncate" but it couldn't be read, too.
I'm satisfied. Thank you!


p.s. I can still see a lot of HD DVD-RW media sold in auctions and Internet shops in Japan.
But I think an HD DVD-RW drive is rarer to get because only SD-L912A on a few Qosmio or for bulk seems to have come onto the market as HD DVD-RW drive.

4-3-0DiscInfo After USB drive.txt

4-4-1OK Write mode.log

4-4-2DiscInfo Afterwritemode.txt

[LIGHTNING UK!]

As it turns out, I have a drive that can do it already... I just need the media.

 

There's nothing showing up on eBay uk.

[Nagi]

I've searched on the Web and found the situation is quite different between in Japan and in UK.

I'm sorry.

 

I checked auctions and stores in Japan, but all don't support overseas shipment though overseas transfer service companies exist.

http://www.biccamera.com.e.lj.hp.transer.com/bc/disp/CSfGoodsPage_001.jsp?GOODS_NO=1842598

http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?select=01&ei=UTF-8&p=hd+dvd+rw&rkf=1&n=50&auccat=0&price_type=currentprice&min=0&max=1999&f=0x2&mode=0&tab_ex=commerce&slider=0

http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/flashstore/4719303543171.html

 

Hmm...

[turnkit]

On 6/2/2016 at 2:26 PM, LIGHTNING UK! said:

As it turns out, I have a drive that can do it already... I just need the media.

 

There's nothing showing up on eBay uk.

I am wanting to find a HD DVD-RW drive, the Toshiba SD-L912A, but I can't seem to find one.  

The media is currently available in eBay.com (US) site: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-new-Ritek-Toshiba-HD-DVD-RW-15GB-Blank-Media-pack-of-3-discs/263804334044

Would you be willing to sell me the SD-L912A drive after testing?  Maybe we can work something out.

[Ch3vr0n]

You do know you're quoting a 2.5yr old post right?

I am wanting to find a HD DVD-RW drive, the Toshiba SD-L912A, but I can't seem to find one.  

The media is currently available in eBay.com (US) site: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-new-Ritek-Toshiba-HD-DVD-RW-15GB-Blank-Media-pack-of-3-discs/263804334044

Would you be willing to sell me the SD-L912A drive after testing?  Maybe we can work something out.

[dbminter]