BDRW Problems

[chris111]

I have an LG BH16NS40 drive.  The first one stopped burning BD discs so I returned it and got a replacement.  The replacement worked and I managed to successfully burn some BD discs.  Now, it just failed to burn any BD disc, like the previous drive, but does burns DVDs.

 

The latest attempt kept giving me "Invalid Address for Write", whilst other attempts seemed to go well but it just left me with an empty disc at the end.  I've tried with Verbantim and some Phillips media, but both have been unsuccessful (they did work when the drive was new, though).

 

I have also noticed that the BD disc has scuffs/scratches that weren't there before I put the disc in the drive.  The drive appears to have put them there during the burn, which I find a bit odd.

 

It seems like this LG drive is just bad, and now it's out of warranty it looks like I wasted £70-80 at the time, since I am left with a very expensive DVDRW. 

 

Is there no hope for this drive?  All I did was not use for a while, since I also have a Sony DVDRW which I use for general use, and haven't needed to burn any BD discs for a while.  The simple passage of time, not wear and tear, seems to kill this drive's BDR abilities.

Edited April 18, 2018 by chris111

[Ch3vr0n]

Invalid address for write has nothing to do with the drive. The drive probably works just fine, the culprit is more likely cheap crappy blanks you're using.

 

What type of discs are you using (if you know where to look, what's the MID?) That it burns DVD's fine is normal. Different type of discs, and uses a different laser.

 

Philips is cheap crap, Sony is B-GRADE. What's the type of verbatim? If the MID is CMC (store bought discs) you've got the cheap version (life series), and you need to buy the proper ones online with the VERBAT-IM.-000 ones.

 

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Edited April 18, 2018 by Ch3vr0n

[chris111]

OK, that was one attempt which threw that error.  The 6x verbatim throws capability errors but that went away when I set Imgburn to 4x.  Imgburn then burns to disk for 20-25 minutes, tells me it's successful, cycles tray, then tells me there's a mismatch when it tries to verify.  It turns out that nothing has been burnt to the disk and that it's recognised as empty.  I agree that the Phillips discs are cheap, but it was just another media I tried.

 

Regarding Sony, that drive is immortal, so b-grade or not it hasn't let me down (10 years old and it only cost me about £12).

 

I just tried again:

 

I 13:28:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:23:32
I 13:28:03 Average Write Rate: 17,307 KiB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,685 KiB/s (4.0x)
I 13:28:03 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 13:28:20 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 13:28:49 Device Ready!
E 13:28:49 CompareImageFileLayouts Failed! - Session Count Not Equal (1/0)
E 13:28:49 Verify Failed! - Reason: Layouts do not match.

 

Disk is still blank with no colouration on the disk to indicate that anything was burnt.

Edited April 18, 2018 by chris111

[Ch3vr0n]

OK, that was one attempt which threw that error. The 6x verbatim throws capability errors but that went away when I set Imgburn to 4x. Imgburn then burns to disk for 20-25 minutes, tells me it's successful, cycles tray, then tells me there's a mismatch when it tries to verify. It turns out that nothing has been burnt to the disk and that it's recognised as empty. I agree that the Phillips discs are cheap, but it was just another media I tried.

 

Regarding Sony, that drive is immortal, so b-grade or not it hasn't let me down (10 years old and it only cost me about £12).

 

I just tried again:

I 13:28:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:23:32

I 13:28:03 Average Write Rate: 17,307 KiB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,685 KiB/s (4.0x)

I 13:28:03 Cycling Tray before Verify...

W 13:28:20 Waiting for device to become ready...

I 13:28:49 Device Ready!

E 13:28:49 CompareImageFileLayouts Failed! - Session Count Not Equal (1/0)

E 13:28:49 Verify Failed! - Reason: Layouts do not match.

Disk is still blank with no colouration on the disk to indicate that anything was burnt.

FULL log please, not just the small verify part. The important stuff you're excluding.

 

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[chris111]

I closed it and not going to waste time trying again.

 

I just tried to see if it could read a BD data disk that was burnt a couple of months ago.  The disc is seen as empty!  Tried it in my bluray player (the one connected to the TV), and it works OK and I can see the files.

 

I suspect failed Bluray laser.  I might try it on another system at some point.

[Ch3vr0n]

I closed it and not going to waste time trying again.

 

I just tried to see if it could read a BD data disk that was burnt a couple of months ago. The disc is seen as empty! Tried it in my bluray player (the one connected to the TV), and it works OK and I can see the files.

 

I suspect failed Bluray laser. I might try it on another system at some point.

Nobody's asking you to try again. And I doubt it's a faulty laser. Just go to the 'extra' menu I think it is, then 'imgburn log' to access the burn log. Copy and paste the FULL SECTION of the relevant burn. Without it, we can't help you.

 

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[dbminter]

You can retrieve the Log from Help in ImgBurn.

[chris111]

I've tried the drive on another machine, but it still won't read BD disks.  It recognises that a disk is present, but treats it as empty and asks how I would like to use the disk.

 

These disks I am trying are not empty, and have been tested before on the same drive (when they were burnt), and are still read on the Bluray player I already mentioned.

 

Here's the log of the last attempt to burn:

 

I 13:01:38 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started!
I 13:01:38 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 13:01:38 Total Physical Memory: 16,743,560 KiB  -  Available: 13,620,696 KiB
I 13:01:38 Initialising SPTI...
I 13:01:38 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 13:01:39 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE  BH16NS40 1.03-A0 (G:) (ATAPI)
I 13:01:39 -> Drive 2 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7261S 1.03 (H:) (ATAPI)
I 13:01:39 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-RE XL!
I 13:03:46 Operation Started!
I 13:03:46 Building Image Tree...
I 13:03:47 Calculating Totals...
I 13:03:47 Preparing Image...
I 13:03:47 Contents: 27 Files, 1 Folder
I 13:03:47 Content Type: Data
I 13:03:47 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 13:03:47 File System(s): UDF (1.02)
I 13:03:47 Volume Label: [Not Configured]
I 13:03:47 Size: 24,473,943,333 bytes
I 13:03:47 Sectors: 11,950,184
I 13:03:47 Image Size: 24,474,615,808 bytes
I 13:03:47 Image Sectors: 11,950,496
I 13:03:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
I 13:04:14 Operation Started!
I 13:04:14 Building Image Tree...
I 13:04:26 Calculating Totals...
I 13:04:26 Preparing Image...
I 13:04:26 Contents: 27 Files, 1 Folder
I 13:04:26 Content Type: Data
I 13:04:26 Data Type: MODE1/2048
I 13:04:26 File System(s): UDF (1.02)
I 13:04:26 Volume Label: FILES
I 13:04:26 Size: 24,473,943,333 bytes
I 13:04:26 Sectors: 11,950,184
I 13:04:26 Image Size: 24,474,615,808 bytes
I 13:04:26 Image Sectors: 11,950,496
I 13:04:28 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:14
I 13:04:30 Operation Started!
I 13:04:30 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 13:04:30 Source File Sectors: 11,950,496 (MODE1/2048)
I 13:04:30 Source File Size: 24,474,615,808 bytes
I 13:04:30 Source File Volume Identifier: FILES
I 13:04:30 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 4C92688700B6598B
I 13:04:30 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.5.8.0
I 13:04:30 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 13:04:30 Source File File System(s): UDF (1.02)
I 13:04:30 Destination Device: [1:2:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE  BH16NS40 1.03 (G:) (ATAPI)
I 13:04:30 Destination Media Type: BD-R (Disc ID: VERBAT-IMu-000)
I 13:04:30 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x, 6x
I 13:04:30 Destination Media Sectors: 12,219,392
I 13:04:30 Write Mode: BD
I 13:04:31 Write Type: DAO
I 13:04:31 Write Speed: 4x
I 13:04:31 Hardware Defect Management Active: No
I 13:04:31 BD-R Verify Not Required: Yes
I 13:04:31 Link Size: Auto
I 13:04:31 Lock Volume: Yes
I 13:04:31 Test Mode: No
I 13:04:31 OPC: No
I 13:04:31 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 13:04:31 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 17,984 KB/s (4x)
I 13:04:37 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB)
I 13:04:38 Writing LeadIn...
W 13:04:41 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Reason: Write Error
W 13:04:41 Retrying (1 of 20)...
I 13:04:43 Writing LeadIn...
I 13:04:44 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 11950495)
I 13:04:44 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 11950495)
I 13:27:45 Synchronising Cache...
I 13:27:48 Closing Track...
I 13:27:49 Finalising Disc...
I 13:28:03 Exporting Graph Data...
I 13:28:03 Graph Data File: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH16NS40_1.03_18-APRIL-2018_13-04_VERBAT-IMu-000_4x.ibg
I 13:28:03 Export Successfully Completed!
I 13:28:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:23:32
I 13:28:03 Average Write Rate: 17,307 KiB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17,685 KiB/s (4.0x)
I 13:28:03 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 13:28:20 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 13:28:49 Device Ready!
E 13:28:49 CompareImageFileLayouts Failed! - Session Count Not Equal (1/0)
E 13:28:49 Verify Failed! - Reason: Layouts do not match.
I 13:37:19 Close Request Acknowledged
I 13:37:19 Closing Down...
I 13:37:19 Shutting down SPTI...
I 13:37:19 ImgBurn closed!

There was a write error during leadin, but it seems to have fixed itself. 

 

ImgBurn also claims the disc is empty.  The drives firmware is the latest, and the one that was already installed on the drive (never been flashed by myself).

Edited April 19, 2018 by chris111

[Ch3vr0n]

You're using M-disc bd-r's aren't you?

 

VERBAT-IMu-000

 

I'm guessing the drive(s) do(es)n't like them very much.

 

The bh16ns40 should read/burn them, but other drives not. M-disc support requires drive's specifically supporting them. They're not your average BD-R.

 

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Edited April 19, 2018 by Ch3vr0n

[chris111]

All my BD disks are coming up as empty on this drive (mixed brands), but work on the BR Player.  Many of these discs were burnt on these LG drives and worked (on the drive) at the time.

 

The same problem happened with the first drive.  I got it replaced, the new one worked, then just stopped working for BD discs after a period of not using it.

 

I've tried different ports, a different machine, blow can (it's a clean system, but why not) but no avail.

 

It's strange that it can recognise that a disk is present but treats it as empty.  I'm not sure how the drive works on that level, but it does suggest that the laser can see the disk.  I know these drives use a separate laser just for bluray, which is why I suspect it's a fault with that laser, or something within the circuitry. 

 

What else could it be?  I've read up on some other posts on the internet about software/driver/os problems, but the basic solutions don't seem to work.

Edited April 19, 2018 by chris111

[LIGHTNING UK!]

They’re the cheaper LTH verbatim discs rather than the normal HTL ones.

 

I don’t believe M-Disc stuff is involved here.

[Ch3vr0n]

Ah the yellow organic ones, yup that would make more sense. LG dropped official support for them years ago, and even verbatim stopped making them.

 

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[dbminter]

There are 2 different lasers in a BD burner?  Is that true?  I did not know that.  Why is that?  Are there 2 different lasers in a standalone Blu-Ray player, one for CD/DVD and one for Blu-Ray?

[Ch3vr0n]

There are 2 different lasers in a BD burner? Is that true? I did not know that. Why is that? Are there 2 different lasers in a standalone Blu-Ray player, one for CD/DVD and one for Blu-Ray?

Of course it's true, Google it ;-). CD-DVD uses a red laser with a (in the eyes of the industry anyway) rather large wavelength. Bluray uses a BLUE (technically more purple) laser, with a lot shorter wavelength. And that laser color, is yup, exactly where the disc name comes from.

 

Not just standalone, PC drives too.

 

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Edited April 20, 2018 by Ch3vr0n

[dbminter]

That explains why a Blu-Ray can fail to start burning correctly, but CD's and DVD's can.  Or the other way around.  Doesn't explain how a burner can start failing on all DL DVD media but not SL media. 

 

 

I had wondered if Blu-Ray might be closer to Violet Ray.  Why jump from red to blue but stop short of the last two colors of the spectrum, indigo and violet?  So, there's nowhere to go from Blu-Ray, then?  There won't be an Indigo Ray or Violet Ray?

[dbminter]

I did decide to look it up, smart guy!   

 

 

In fact, it seems I had a DVD burner that probably had a 2nd laser in it.  Came across an instance of a BD burner with 3 lasers!    One for CD/DVD, one for Blu-Ray, and the third for burning Lightscribbe labels.  So, it seems that Lightscribe capable DVD burners might have had a 2nd laser for burning the Lightscribe label side.  I had a few LiteOn DVD burners that were Lightscribe capable.