thomascalhoon Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Hello, Recently, I have been attempting to make some backup versions of PS1 game discs. I tried this initially with the standard Verbatim CD-Rs. I tried writing Silent Hill to a disc and my ps1 couldn't make it through the initial cut scene (I am using FPSXBoot). Then I learned that those (made by CMC Magnetics) are not very good so I bought some Verbatim Datalife+ discs and tried again. This worked better, but FMV cutscenes are still stuttering and/or not working. Spoken dialogue cuts in and out. Some actions, such as inspecting items, take a very long time to do. I am using an LG WH16NS40 disc writer/reader (you can see the details in the program log below). I know that these are meant for Blu-ray discs, but I assume they should be fine for CDs. Does anyone know how I can write PS1 games more successfully on these discs? Like I said, the games work... okay... but the lack/interruption of audio is annoying and I would like them to run smoother. Thanks Quote I 17:11:34 ImgBurn Version 2.5.8.0 started! I 17:11:34 Microsoft Windows 8 Unknown x64 Edition (0x00000079) (6.2, Build 9200) I 17:11:34 Total Physical Memory: 16,724,088 KiB - Available: 10,005,092 KiB I 17:11:34 Initialising SPTI... I 17:11:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 17:11:34 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.05 (F:) (USB 2.0) I 17:11:34 Found 1 BD-RE XL! I 17:11:55 Operation Started! I 17:11:55 Source File: E:\Games\PSX\Silent Hill (USA)\Silent Hill (USA).cue I 17:11:55 Source File Sectors: 262,115 (MODE2/FORM1/2352) I 17:11:55 Source File Size: 616,494,480 bytes I 17:11:55 Source File Application Identifier: PLAYSTATION I 17:11:55 Source File File System(s): ISO9660 I 17:11:55 Destination Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.05 (F:) (USB) I 17:11:55 Destination Media Type: CD-R (Disc ID: 97m34s23f, Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.) I 17:11:55 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x I 17:11:55 Destination Media Sectors: 359,846 I 17:11:55 Write Mode: CD I 17:11:55 Write Type: SAO I 17:11:55 Write Speed: 1x I 17:11:55 Lock Volume: Yes I 17:11:55 Test Mode: No I 17:11:55 OPC: No I 17:11:55 BURN-Proof: Enabled W 17:11:55 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 176 KB/s (1x), Got: 2,823 KB/s (16x) W 17:11:55 The drive only supports writing these discs at 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x. I 17:11:55 Filling Buffer... (80 MiB) I 17:11:56 Writing LeadIn... I 17:12:12 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 262114) I 17:12:12 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 262114) I 17:15:49 Synchronising Cache... I 17:15:58 Exporting Graph Data... I 17:15:58 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Thomas\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH16NS40_1.05_TUESDAY-APRIL-2-2024_5-11_PM_97m34s23f_1x.ibg I 17:15:58 Export Successfully Completed! I 17:15:58 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:03 I 17:15:58 Average Write Rate: 2,787 KiB/s (14.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 2,838 KiB/s (14.3x) I 17:15:58 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 17:16:10 Waiting for device to become ready... I 17:16:19 Device Ready! I 17:16:20 Operation Started! I 17:16:20 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS40 1.05 (F:) (USB) I 17:16:20 Source Media Type: CD-ROM I 17:16:20 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 4x, 8x, 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x I 17:16:20 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x I 17:16:20 Source Media Sectors: 262,115 I 17:16:20 Source Media Size: 616,494,480 bytes I 17:16:20 Image File: E:\Games\PSX\Silent Hill (USA)\Silent Hill (USA).cue I 17:16:20 Image File Sectors: 262,115 (MODE2/FORM1/2352) I 17:16:20 Image File Size: 616,494,480 bytes I 17:16:20 Image File Application Identifier: PLAYSTATION I 17:16:20 Image File File System(s): ISO9660 I 17:16:20 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 17:16:22 Read Speed - Effective: 48x I 17:16:22 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 262114) I 17:16:22 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE2/FORM1/2352, LBA: 0 - 262114) I 17:37:12 Exporting Graph Data... I 17:37:12 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Thomas\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_WH16NS40_1.05_TUESDAY-APRIL-2-2024_5-11_PM_97m34s23f_1x.ibg I 17:37:12 Export Successfully Completed! I 17:37:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:20:51 I 17:37:12 Average Verify Rate: 482 KiB/s (2.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 4,381 KiB/s (22.1x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Without doing quality checks on the burnt discs, it's hard to know if your drive has burnt them nicely. Assuming it has and the error rates are really low, it's a case of the laser in your PS1 not liking them - possibly just not liking any burnt discs in general. If it can't read the disc nicely, you'll get stuttering. I seem to recall that it is possible to tweak the laser power and improve things, but you do have to be careful or you could make things worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomascalhoon Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 On 4/4/2024 at 10:39 PM, LIGHTNING UK! said: Without doing quality checks on the burnt discs, it's hard to know if your drive has burnt them nicely. Assuming it has and the error rates are really low, it's a case of the laser in your PS1 not liking them - possibly just not liking any burnt discs in general. If it can't read the disc nicely, you'll get stuttering. I seem to recall that it is possible to tweak the laser power and improve things, but you do have to be careful or you could make things worse Thank you for your response! How would I do a quality check on the burnt discs? I have heard that (if you can get them to read PS1 backups), PS2s have better lasers that are more equipped to deal with burnt discs. Do you know if there is truth to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 The PS2 laser assembly base unit would be newer than the ones in the PS1. In theory, that would mean better read compatibility. I know that certain DVD-R could be played on the PS2 for things like DVD Video. I used to do it as far back as 2002, but, even then, random skips and playback problems would occur because the PS2 was simply designed before the creation of DVD-R. However, future PS2 models improved playback compatibility with DVD-R, which means that as the lasers got newer, they got better at reading recorded discs. Which would bolster the idea that as the PS2 improved, it would have better playback for CD-R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomascalhoon Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 Thank you again for this valuable information! I am going to try to use mechapwn on a spare slim PS2 so it can run ps1 backups. Then I will try the discs again and let you know if that works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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