The label 'Time'

[Cynthia]

Curious.

 

In the burning window there is a label named time. What is the purpose of this and how is it calculated?

 

MM:SS:FF

 

MM = Minutes

SS = Seconds

FF = ?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

FF = Frames.

 

It comes from the old 'CD' days when 640mb was 74 mins, 7800mb was 80 mins etc.

 

75 frames = 1 second.

60 seconds = 1 minute.

[Cynthia]

Thanks!

[dbminter]

Ah, I wasn't aware of the 75 frames being 1 second, actually. So, any length that is under 1 second will be listed as frames. So, for DVD video, it makes sense since every 15 frames is about half a second. And 5 units of 15 make 75.

[spinningwheel]

75 frames being 1 second

And 5 units of 15 make 75.

 

ahhhhh DB.... another math problem ...if 15 frames is a half second, and 75 frames is a second, what happened to the other 45 frames????.......

[dbminter]

Notice I said ABOUT half a second. It's not entirely half a second. Thus, the remainder has to spill over into the next iteration. Plus, I didn't make this goddamn system. I'd have done something a little more SENSICAL, like, say, use a 10 based system!

[LIGHTNING UK!]

We're not talking about video time here, it's disc time.

 

25 / 30 FPS for video is obviously very different!

 

Just want to be sure I've made myself clear so as not to confuse anyone!

[lfcrule1972]

I am always confused mate......

[spinningwheel]

I'm so cornfused......

 

 

[dbminter]

That makes even less sense to me. How is frame defined for disc time then? It seems to only make sense when defined as a frame of video. Which, I never thought of it before, but, since as was said this was CD format, a frame on a CD begs the same question. Because it's not video at all.

[kevdriver]

err, absolutely right guys...... I concur...........

[polopony]

yup what he said

[Cynthia]

Still not sure what's the purpose of this label...

 

more than to cornfuse...

Edited December 21, 2005 by cynthia

[lfcrule1972]

In which case the purpose is being served admirably !!

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Like I said, it's mainly for CD!

 

If you didn't do much CD burning, it'll probably make less sense to you.

 

Sometimes it's just easier to read 73:59:00 for an image size and know it's gonna fit on a 74 min cd rather than needing an 80min one.

 

I don't think of CDs in terms of MB capacity, it's Time capacity for me - being old skool and all that

[lfcrule1972]

Fair enough - I am lazy and just buy 80min CDR's !!

 

Did you get my PM Lightning ?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Me too... I'm not even sure 74 mins ones still exist!

 

In this day and age, it is quite possible I could remove it - and have thought about doing so several times.

 

The trouble is, if I remove it, I'm bound to upset someone who DOES want/use it.

 

I just can't win!

[dbminter]

I suppose it could be set up as a user option? If it can be removed, then, it can be set to be displayed or not, right?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Not really, no.

 

That would mean dynamically resizing stuff.... very pointless in my opinion!

 

It does no harm by being there so it's really a case of leave it be or remove it and tidy up where there will now be a few blank areas within the dialog window.

[dbminter]

As for resizing, seems to me easier to just leave it as a blank line. When the user turns it on, the data appears. When the user doesn't, it's a blank line on the screen.