chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Hi, I've ploughed thro a lot of the forum and couldn't see quite my problem, so apologies if I'm repeating a previous question ! I've converted a home movie using DVDFlick and the file is in Video_TS. My burner is an external USB Freecom 20J8 (tho it also has a model no of 29510). Following the instructions from your site, I started to burn the movie to DVD, but partway thro it gives up. Here is the log: I 12:46:32 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 12:46:32 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 12:46:32 Total Physical Memory: 507,380 KB - Available: 156,340 KB I 12:46:32 Initialising SPTI... I 12:46:32 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 12:46:33 Found 1 CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 12:51:17 Operation Started! I 12:51:17 Building Image Tree... I 12:51:17 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:51:17 Calculating Totals... I 12:51:17 Preparing Image... I 12:51:17 Checking Path Length... I 12:51:17 Image Size: 1,002,143,744 bytes I 12:51:17 Image Sectors: 489,328 I 12:51:17 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00 I 12:54:44 Operation Started! I 12:54:44 Building Image Tree... I 12:54:44 Checking Directory Depth... I 12:54:44 Calculating Totals... I 12:54:44 Preparing Image... I 12:54:44 Checking Path Length... I 12:54:44 Image Size: 1,002,143,744 bytes I 12:54:44 Image Sectors: 489,328 I 12:54:59 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:15 I 12:54:59 Operation Started! I 12:54:59 Source File: -==/\/[bUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:54:59 Source File Sectors: 489,328 (MODE1/2048) I 12:54:59 Source File Size: 1,002,143,744 bytes I 12:54:59 Source File Volume Identifier: WEDDINGPHOTOS I 12:54:59 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 12:54:59 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn I 12:54:59 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 12:54:59 Destination Device: [0:0:0] FREECOM_ DVD+/-RW20J8 KF51 (E:) (USB) I 12:54:59 Destination Media Type: DVD-RW (Disc ID: RITEKW01) (Speeds: 2x) I 12:54:59 Destination Media Sectors: 2,297,888 I 12:54:59 Write Mode: DVD I 12:54:59 Write Type: DAO I 12:54:59 Write Speed: MAX I 12:54:59 Link Size: Auto I 12:54:59 Test Mode: No I 12:54:59 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 12:55:00 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 12:55:00 Writing LeadIn... W 12:57:42 Failed to Write Sectors 32 - 63 - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (1 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (2 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (3 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (4 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (5 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (6 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (7 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (8 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (9 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (10 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (11 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (12 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (13 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (14 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (15 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (16 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (17 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (18 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (19 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error W 12:57:42 Retrying (20 of 20)... W 12:57:42 Retry Failed - Command Sequence Error E 13:03:18 Failed to Write Sectors 32 - 63 - Command Sequence Error I 13:03:18 Synchronising Cache... E 13:03:19 Failed to Write Image! E 13:03:19 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:08:20 I 13:03:19 Average Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) Being a newbie, I have no idea what all this means, or what to do to solve the problem !! Hope someone can help - I have this small movie and a larger one to get on several DVDs as it's images from a wedding and all the relatives want copies !! Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutach Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Not the best media or drive. First step is always switch to quality media - Verbatim or Taiyo Yudens. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 Not the best media or drive. First step is always switch to quality media - Verbatim or Taiyo Yudens. Regards OK, I thought Sony would be good, but there you are ! I also have some Sigma DVD R - I suppose they're c**p as well ? Having paid good money for the burner, I would really like to make it work - if I get hold of some Verbatim or TY DVDs, am I still going to have the same problem ? If so, can you tell me in advance what I need to do ? Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutach Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 You'll have a lot better chance, that's for sure. SONY brand is, in this case, made by Ritek, which is not considered real good. Never heard of Sigma either. So, first go out and get some good media and see how you go then. Also, on a USB port, slow down the burn to 2x. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 OK - looks like I'm going shopping then ! Thanks for the tip on the speed - I had it set to 'Auto', but I'll change it next time As Arnie said - I'll be back..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 Just out of curiosity, I loaded one ofthe Sigma DVD+R into the drive and opened ImgBurn - the disc info says: Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,295,104 Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 6x, 8x Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00Book Type: DVD+R [my Bold] Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 As this is made by Yuden, presumably this is in fact an acceptable type of DVD ? As it is not re-writeable, I wasn't going to use it just yet, but do you think it is worth trying or will I just get another coaster ? I notice that the supported write speeds are way above what you recommended - will this work at 2x ? Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 try the yuden at 4x, that will tell us a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!! I now have a DVD playing on my TV - I am chuffed to bits. Thanks to everyone for your help & patience. One more little question if I may - I have a video movie of about 1 hr as well as this photo still movie (about 15 mins) - how do I burn them both to one DVD ? Do I convert them as one file or can I do it separately and then burn both in one go ? This has been driving me mad for over a week, so I really do appreciate your help Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 my bad, your burner only goes down to 6X with that mid, dvd flick should take both video files in one compilation and since the first one was only a gig then you should have room for an hour more, depending upon the bitrate, for a single layer remember usb is a system intensive resource(cpu has to handle most everything) so try to have as little as possible running while burning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 my bad, your burner only goes down to 6X with that mid, dvd flick should take both video files in one compilation and since the first one was only a gig then you should have room for an hour more, depending upon the bitrate, for a single layer remember usb is a system intensive resource(cpu has to handle most everything) so try to have as little as possible running while burning Sorry, you've lost me a bit there ! I've already converted the smaller file - will I have to re-do it when I'm ready to do the larger file ? Will they show as separate movies on the DVD ? Yes, I had read about not running anything else whilst burning - I will probably do it in the evening/ at night. I reckon it's going to take about 2 1/2 - 3 hours per DVD (total movie time about 1 hr 15, then same again for the verify procedure) - if I set it to make several copies, will it just wait when it gets to the end of one for me to load a new blank DVD ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Burning should take about 8 - 10 mins or something at 8x. Verify speed depends on what your drive likes to read at. If yours is going much slower than that you must have an issue somewhere. Yes that's how the queue works. You just tell it the number of copies and keep feeding it blank discs until they're all done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 The small movie I burned is about 15 mins long, and took about the same time to burn (set at 4x) tho I confess I didn't actually time it, just read the 'time remaining' bit. The same times were displayed for the verifying. It is quite possible that I have an issue somewhere, it has taken me quite some time just to actually achieve a burned DVD ! If you think it's safe to set the speed higher (bearing in mind I'm using an external USB burner, and don't have a Hi-speed USB port), then I'll go along with your experienced opinion !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 without usb2 then the speed setting will matter little as you will be limited to less than 1X dvd burning your log should show that 1 gig burn taking about 1000/60 or ~17 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 If you're only using USB 1.0, you seriously need to consider getting some sort of USB 2.0 card in your PC/Laptop. When you burn on USB 1.0 (as chewy said), you're limited to 1mb/s - and 1x DVD speed is about 1.3mb/s. So basically your drive can't even burn at 1x. Every time your drive runs out of data in it's cache (which at below 1x speed is ALL the time!!) it's having to perform linking as part of it's burnproof feature. That's something you want to avoid if possible as it'll be reducing the quality of the burn. Personally I'd forget about burning DVD's until you're up and running on USB 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 Ah, I can see where you're both coming from - I hadn't realised this was an issue. I will try and burn the whole thing and see how it comes out - if it's OK then I'll carry on, if not then it looks like a trip to the computer shop (I'm not techie enough to try & fit my own, tho I gather it's not too difficult !). Thanks for all your help on this, and sorry if I've been a bit clueless ! Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 turn off the computer. disconnect the power cord open the case(that's the hard part) insert a pci card in an empty pci slot after removing back insert, put the screw in, leave the case open, attach power turn it on, if it sees it, then load drivers, if needed if not then change the slot that's all there is to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 ...... that's all there is to it You make it sound so simple - I don't even know what a pci card is or what an empty slot looks like, never mind knowing if drivers need to be loaded.....!!! I'll leave it to the shop - I know my limitations (yes, I'm a wuss !)!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissie Posted September 8, 2007 Author Share Posted September 8, 2007 Hi Guys, Just to let you know - I managed to get the whole video movie and the still photo movie burned to dvd in one (long !) go (I left it running and went to bed !). There are one or two small quality issues that I expect are down to the slow 1x USB, but the end result is still very watchable, and my step-daughter (the bride !!) is thrilled with the dvd. So thanks to everyone who made useful suggestions - you really helped this complete burning novice, and I'm eternally grateful Cheers, Chrissie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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