rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Tried to erase a DVD-RAM on a Pioneer 112 with imageburn. Process ended prematurely without error message and now the media shows as corrupt. Is there any way I can repair this disk or is it a throwaway? Maybe I shouldn't have used erase disk on this type of media?
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 will windows(xp) format it? It doesn't even see the disk in the drive now.
chewy Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 http://www.mytechguide.com/26/using-dvd-ra...der-windows-xp/ fat32 works, udf does not?
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 The erase within ImgBurn removes everything (including the file system itself - if there was one) on the DVD-RAM disc. The disc can then only be used for burning images to via 'Write' mode or files to via 'Build' mode (another proper burning tool). The OS won't deal with it until the disc has been formatted and the file system recreated. btw, what makes you think it ended prematurely if there was no error message? If it failed, there would be a message of some sort!
chewy Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:41:08 http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=3200 on 3x media
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 The erase within ImgBurn removes everything (including the file system itself - if there was one) on the DVD-RAM disc. The disc can then only be used for burning images to via 'Write' mode or files to via 'Build' mode (another proper burning tool). The OS won't deal with it until the disc has been formatted and the file system recreated. btw, what makes you think it ended prematurely if there was no error message? If it failed, there would be a message of some sort! Tried to write a disk image to it using "write" but it just reports "media format corrupted" I think if finished prematurely because when I last looked it had 10% finished and then shortly afterwards it just stopped. Looking at the surface of the disk it appears to be 10% written by the colour difference.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Try another full erase and post a copy of the log.
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 Try another full erase and post a copy of the log. Interestingly, it is now allowing me to repeat the erase now. It's going to take a while. I'll post the log when it finishes.
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 Failed again. Got to about 20% this time. Log attached.ImgBurn.log
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I've not had enough experience of DVDRAM to know if there's any way around this. It just seems as though there's something wrong with the disc - or at least the drive doesn't appear to like it very much. In a last ditch attempt, you might like to turn off the 'spare areas' option in the ImgBurn settings (on the Write tab). You could also try Panasonics DVDFORM tool and see if that works.
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 I've not had enough experience of DVDRAM to know if there's any way around this. It just seems as though there's something wrong with the disc - or at least the drive doesn't appear to like it very much. In a last ditch attempt, you might like to turn off the 'spare areas' option in the ImgBurn settings (on the Write tab). You could also try Panasonics DVDFORM tool and see if that works. Spares option didn't work. I'll have a hunt to see if I can find the Panasonic DVDFORM tool and try that. Thanks.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Try here http://panasonic.co.jp/pcc/products/drive/...PDrv5301NEN.exe
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 Try here http://panasonic.co.jp/pcc/products/drive/...PDrv5301NEN.exe Thanks, but it won't let me install. Says "the disk drive for the setup cannot be found - error 071" I think it probably doesn't recognise the Pioneer. Installer says it's for Blu-ray.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Just open the exe with winrar or something. You can get the dvdform exe from it that way.
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 Just open the exe with winrar or something. You can get the dvdform exe from it that way. Oh I see, I didn't realise you could do that with a windows installer. Got it and started format. Hope for the best.
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 Fixed it! Took three attempts at formatting with DVDFORM before it went all the way through. Each time got a little bit further. Final format took 58 minutes. Think I'll avoid erasing disks in future. Thanks for all the help.
chewy Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I know this list is a little stringent, but pioneer just got started with dvd-ram and multidrive capability DVD-RAM on DVR-112 Supported media list of DVD-RAM on DVR-112 http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/...diaList_121.pdf
rogjack Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 I know this list is a little stringent, but pioneer just got started with dvd-ram and multidrive capability DVD-RAM on DVR-112 Supported media list of DVD-RAM on DVR-112 http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/...diaList_121.pdf Yes, the list isn't very long. I am using the 1.22 firmware, but I don't know if that supports more types or not. Writing has not been a problem with the Ritek disks I'm using. Never failed verify either. Only problem has been trying to erase. I'll avoid that for now and just delete files.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Erasing the disc isn't the problem, I've erased DVDRAM before without any issues. (I could erase another one right this second if it would mean anything?!) The problem is just with the drive/firmware/media combo. Try getting some panasonic dvdram discs and forget the ritek ones.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I 22:29:23 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.12 Beta started! I 22:29:23 Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition (5.2, Build 3790 : Service Pack 2) I 22:29:23 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,220 KB - Available: 1,939,384 KB I 22:29:24 Initialising SPTI... I 22:29:24 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:29:27 Found 4 DVD-ROMs, 1 DVD±RW, 5 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM! I 22:30:05 Operation Started! I 22:30:05 Device: [5:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.22 (P:) (SCSI) I 22:30:05 Media Type: DVD-RAM (Disc ID: MXL22) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 10x, 12x) I 22:30:05 Quick Erase: No I 22:30:05 Erasing Disc... I 22:54:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:24:46 There, see
rogjack Posted September 14, 2007 Author Posted September 14, 2007 I 22:29:23 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.12 Beta started! I 22:29:23 Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition (5.2, Build 3790 : Service Pack 2) I 22:29:23 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,220 KB - Available: 1,939,384 KB I 22:29:24 Initialising SPTI... I 22:29:24 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:29:27 Found 4 DVD-ROMs, 1 DVD±RW, 5 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM! I 22:30:05 Operation Started! I 22:30:05 Device: [5:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.22 (P:) (SCSI) I 22:30:05 Media Type: DVD-RAM (Disc ID: MXL22) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 10x, 12x) I 22:30:05 Quick Erase: No I 22:30:05 Erasing Disc... I 22:54:51 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:24:46 There, see I notice that you're erase only took 24 minutes. I think I'll get some better disks. I only use them for backup purposes so I don't need so many of them.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 That first log was from some 12x DVDRAM made by Maxell. You can only get them from Japan I think (I imported mine). This log is from some Panasonic 3x discs. I 14:39:34 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.12 Beta started! I 14:39:34 Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition (5.2, Build 3790 : Service Pack 2) I 14:39:34 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,220 KB - Available: 1,866,804 KB I 14:39:35 Initialising SPTI... I 14:39:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 14:39:36 Found 4 DVD-ROMs, 1 DVD±RW, 5 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM! I 14:39:51 Operation Started! I 14:39:51 Device: [5:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.22 (P:) (SCSI) I 14:39:51 Media Type: DVD-RAM (Disc ID: Matsushita Electric Industrial CO.,LTD. M01J3003) (Speeds: 2x, 3x) I 14:39:51 Quick Erase: No I 14:39:51 Erasing Disc... I 15:36:18 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:56:27 Just remember when you buy media that it's the Disc ID that's important, not the brand name.
dontasciime Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 lol my 12x ram discs are delayed from japan you goto benippon was gonna send you one when I got them
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