BoSox2882 Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I am getting very slow reads with Pioneer DVR-112L. I uninstalled the IDE controller by following the guide and allowed windows to find everything again. Also everything is in DMA mode. Here is a log of my last attempted read. For comparisons my LiteOn is working fine when reading. I am using the Buffalo firmware 8.25 that I believe is just modified for bitsetting, as Nero shows my burns on +R media as dvd-rom. Is this a problem with RPC1 or needing the speed patch enabled? ; I 20:05:48 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 20:05:48 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 20:05:48 Total Physical Memory: 1,039,856 KB - Available: 619,916 KB I 20:05:48 Initialising SPTI... I 20:05:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:05:48 Found 2 DVD±RW/RAMs! I 20:06:02 Operation Started! I 20:06:02 Source Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.25 (E:) (ATA) I 20:06:02 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) I 20:06:02 Source Media Sectors: 2,283,616 (Track Path: PTP) I 20:06:02 Source Media Size: 4,676,845,568 bytes I 20:06:02 Source Media Volume Identifier: ASSASSINATION_O I 20:06:02 Source Media Volume Set Identifier: 384C808FC7B37F70 I 20:06:02 Source Media Implementation Identifier: Nero I 20:06:02 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:06:02 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x I 20:06:03 Destination File: C:\Documents and Settings\AUSTIN\Desktop\ASSASSINATION_O.iso I 20:06:03 Destination Free Space: 65,050,161,152 bytes (63,525,548 KB) (62,036 MB) (60 GB) I 20:06:03 Destination File System: NTFS I 20:06:03 File Splitting: Auto I 20:06:04 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2283615) I 20:06:04 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2283615) I 20:34:30 Image MD5: c77bcdd5c78e6f4bbc6d179e9b2c457f I 20:34:30 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:28:28 I 20:34:31 Average Read Rate: 2,674 KB/s (1.9x) - Maximum Read Rate: 10,108 KB/s (7.3x) I 20:34:36 Close Request Acknowledged I 20:34:36 Closing Down... I 20:34:41 Shutting down SPTI... I 20:34:41 ImgBurn closed!
mmalves Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Get the 8.25 firmware (possibly needs to be extracted with WinRAR) and use MediaCodeSpeedEdit to remove the riplock
BoSox2882 Posted February 18, 2008 Author Posted February 18, 2008 I tried this, but could not get it to work. Is that the only problem the riplock? I will just continue to use my LiteOn for ripping/reading, because I am getting very good burns with the Pioneer the way it is.
LOCOENG Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I 20:06:02 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: RITEKF1) Maybe the drive is having trouble reading from the dodgy media...or is the case no matter what is being read, commercial and/or your own compilations from various brands.
MIG Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I have the same problem with Pio-112D, although I already crossflashed it to Pio-112 with riplock+RPC I+bitsetting: I 19:19:44 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 19:19:44 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4) I 19:19:44 Total Physical Memory: 523.760 KB - Available: 295.504 KB I 19:19:44 Initialising SPTI... I 19:19:44 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:19:45 Found 1 CD-ROM, 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 19:57:02 Operation Started! I 19:57:02 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 19:57:02 Source File Sectors: 2.146.208 (MODE1/2048) I 19:57:02 Source File Size: 4.395.433.984 bytes I 19:57:02 Source File Volume Identifier: I 19:57:02 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 19:57:02 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 19:57:02 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 19:57:02 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 19:57:02 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 19:57:02 Write Mode: DVD I 19:57:02 Write Type: DAO I 19:57:02 Write Speed: 16x I 19:57:02 Link Size: Auto I 19:57:02 Test Mode: No I 19:57:02 OPC: Yes I 19:57:02 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:57:30 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 19:57:31 Writing LeadIn... I 19:57:32 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2146207) I 19:57:32 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2146207) I 20:02:25 Synchronising Cache... I 20:02:26 Closing Track... I 20:02:27 Finalising Disc... I 20:02:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:47 I 20:02:49 Average Write Rate: 14.700 KB/s (10.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 21.626 KB/s (15.6x) I 20:02:49 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 20:03:10 Device Ready! I 20:03:10 Operation Started! I 20:03:10 Source Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 20:03:10 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 20:03:10 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:03:10 Image File Sectors: 2.146.208 (MODE1/2048) I 20:03:10 Image File Size: 4.395.433.984 bytes I 20:03:10 Image File Volume Identifier: I 20:03:10 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 20:03:10 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 20:03:10 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 20:03:10 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2146207) I 20:03:10 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2146207) I 20:18:34 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:21 I 20:18:34 Average Verify Rate: 4.660 KB/s (3.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 14.651 KB/s (10.6x) Media itself (still the same spindle Verbatims Made in Taiwan) had turn around times with Pio-111 about 6:15 / 6:30 for burning / verifying.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 If you look at this... http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?s=&...ost&p=40747 How does your own graph compare?
MIG Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I don't have DVDinfo installed and have disabled graph export in ImgBurn too. I'll create a backup for roll back ... Stay tuned
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 You can just send me/upload the IBG file if you don't want DVDInfoPro installed.
dontasciime Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 It's not much good to either of you but my pio112 seems fine. I 20:48:55 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.1 Beta started! I 20:48:55 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 20:48:55 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,897,192 KB W 20:48:55 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 20:48:55 Initialising SPTI... I 20:48:55 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:48:56 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 3 DVD±RWs, 3 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 20:49:18 Operation Started! I 20:49:18 Source File: H:\UK.ISO I 20:49:18 Source File Sectors: 2,285,847 (MODE1/2048) I 20:49:18 Source File Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes I 20:49:18 Source File Volume Identifier: UK I 20:49:18 Source File Volume Set Identifier: UK I 20:49:18 Source File Implementation Identifier: UK I 20:49:18 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:49:18 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.21 (N:) (USB) I 20:49:18 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 20:49:18 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496 I 20:49:18 Write Mode: DVD I 20:49:18 Write Type: DAO I 20:49:18 Write Speed: 8x I 20:49:18 Link Size: Auto I 20:49:18 Test Mode: No I 20:49:18 OPC: Yes I 20:49:18 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:49:31 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 20:49:32 Writing LeadIn... I 20:49:47 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 20:49:47 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 20:57:14 Synchronising Cache... I 20:57:25 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:57:25 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112L_8.21_18-FEBRUARY-2008_20-49_MCC_02RG20_8x.ibg I 20:57:25 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:57:25 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:08:07 I 20:57:25 Average Write Rate: 10,250 KB/s (7.4x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,158 KB/s (8.1x) I 20:57:25 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 20:57:45 Device Ready! I 20:57:46 Operation Started! I 20:57:46 Source Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.21 (N:) (USB) I 20:57:46 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Book Type: DVD-R) (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x) I 20:57:46 Image File: H:\UK.ISO I 20:57:46 Image File Sectors: 2,285,847 (MODE1/2048) I 20:57:46 Image File Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes I 20:57:46 Image File Volume Identifier: UK I 20:57:46 Image File Volume Set Identifier: UK I 20:57:46 Image File Implementation Identifier: UK I 20:57:46 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 20:57:46 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 20:57:46 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 20:57:46 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:04:13 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:04:13 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112L_8.21_18-FEBRUARY-2008_20-49_MCC_02RG20_8x.ibg I 21:04:13 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:04:13 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:27 I 21:04:13 Average Verify Rate: 11,813 KB/s (8.5x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17,269 KB/s (12.5x) maybe try a lens cleaner or check your filters =============================================== Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.4.0.1 =============================================== Upper Device Filter: redbook Upper Class Filter: [None Found] Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device Lower Class Filter: [None Found] Lower Device Filter: imapi Filter Name: redbook File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 Company Name: Microsoft Corporation Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Filter Name: imapi File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys File Version: 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version: 5.1.2600.2180 Company Name: Microsoft Corporation Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. I 21:20:15 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.1 Beta started! I 21:20:15 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 21:20:15 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,893,992 KB W 21:20:15 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size. I 21:20:15 Initialising SPTI... I 21:20:15 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 21:20:16 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 3 DVD±RWs, 3 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE! I 21:20:29 Operation Started! I 21:20:29 Source Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.21 (N:) (USB) I 21:20:29 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: MCC 02RG20) I 21:20:29 Source Media Sectors: 2,285,847 (Track Path: PTP) I 21:20:29 Source Media Size: 4,681,414,656 bytes I 21:20:29 Source Media Volume Identifier: UK I 21:20:29 Source Media Volume Set Identifier: UK I 21:20:29 Source Media Implementation Identifier: UK I 21:20:29 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02) I 21:20:29 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 21:20:29 Destination File: P:\UK.ISO I 21:20:29 Destination Free Space: 414,401,327,104 bytes (404,688,796 KB) (395,203 MB) (385 GB) I 21:20:29 Destination File System: NTFS I 21:20:29 File Splitting: Auto I 21:20:31 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:20:31 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2285846) I 21:26:57 Exporting Graph Data... I 21:26:57 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112L_8.21_18-FEBRUARY-2008_21-20_MCC_02RG20.ibg I 21:26:57 Export Successfully Completed! I 21:26:57 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:27 I 21:26:57 Average Read Rate: 11,813 KB/s (8.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 17,276 KB/s (12.5x)
MIG Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) 1. Drive had read weakness straight from the beginning (only DVD not CD), I first used it for 2 weeks as 112D with FW 1.24 RPCII 2. Filters are clean: =============================================== Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 =============================================== Upper Device Filter: [None Found] Upper Class Filter: [None Found] Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device Lower Class Filter: [None Found] Lower Device Filter: [None Found] 3. Lense cleaning for a 2 months old drive (it's from Dec 2007)? 4. Reading is also OK on other drives (even a bloody MATSHITA notebook slim drive is faster!) I 22:33:49 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started! I 22:33:49 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 22:33:49 Total Physical Memory: 2.095.468 KB - Available: 1.647.516 KB I 22:33:49 Initialising SPTI... I 22:33:49 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 22:34:12 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 22:38:12 Operation Started! I 22:38:12 Source Device: [1:0:0] MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850 RB11 (R:) (ATA) I 22:38:12 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) I 22:38:12 Source Media Sectors: 2.146.208 (Track Path: PTP) I 22:38:12 Source Media Volume Identifier: I 22:38:12 Source Media Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 22:38:12 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 22:38:12 Destination File: D:\F.ISO I 22:38:12 Destination Free Space: 77.029.527.552 bytes (75.224.148 KB) (73.461 MB) (71 GB) I 22:38:12 Destination File System: NTFS I 22:38:12 File Splitting: Auto I 22:38:12 Reading Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2146207) I 22:47:39 Image MD5: 876bbf28909939d5ecbf4c55aabbff20 I 22:47:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:27 I 22:47:39 Average Read Rate: 7.570 KB/s (5.5x) - Maximum Read Rate: 11.023 KB/s (8.0x) Edited February 18, 2008 by MIG
dontasciime Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Did you mean my Graph as mine also shows read as well as write and bloody hell yours looks like a rollercoaster You cpu is rather high as well
MIG Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 No, my graph looks pretty useless, the scaling is wrong, I burned 4.2 GB data not 1 GB and DVDInfoPro can't obviously handle windooze large fonts.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 What are the buffers doing during the verify stage? Is it the same if you do a transfer rate test in CDSpeed? (i.e. really slow and dodgy looking graph) (No need to install that one, it's just an exe)
MIG Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) I did a discovery test with CD-RW (Verbatim 32x) before and it looks OK. Edited February 18, 2008 by MIG
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 DVD might be different to CD though. I guess it needs to be a 8x DVD+RW / 6x DVD-RW to be a fair test (assuming you don't want to waste a WORM disc on it).
MIG Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Burn speed reduction to 8x does not help either: I 23:38:32 Operation Started! I 23:38:32 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:38:32 Source File Sectors: 2.145.488 (MODE1/2048) I 23:38:32 Source File Size: 4.393.959.424 bytes I 23:38:32 Source File Volume Identifier: I 23:38:32 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 23:38:32 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 23:38:32 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 23:38:32 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 23:38:32 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 23:38:32 Write Mode: DVD I 23:38:32 Write Type: DAO I 23:38:32 Write Speed: 8x I 23:38:32 Link Size: Auto I 23:38:32 Test Mode: No I 23:38:32 OPC: Yes I 23:38:32 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 23:38:58 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 23:38:58 Writing LeadIn... I 23:38:59 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2145487) I 23:38:59 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2145487) I 23:45:47 Synchronising Cache... I 23:45:48 Closing Track... I 23:45:51 Finalising Disc... I 23:46:27 Exporting Graph Data... I 23:46:27 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_MONTAG-18-FEBRUAR-2008_23-38_MCC-004-00_8x.ibg I 23:46:27 Export Successfully Completed! I 23:46:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:54 I 23:46:27 Average Write Rate: 10.542 KB/s (7.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11.447 KB/s (8.3x) I 23:46:27 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 23:46:47 Device Ready! I 23:46:48 Operation Started! I 23:46:48 Source Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 23:46:48 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 23:46:48 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 23:46:48 Image File Sectors: 2.145.488 (MODE1/2048) I 23:46:48 Image File Size: 4.393.959.424 bytes I 23:46:48 Image File Volume Identifier: I 23:46:48 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 23:46:48 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 23:46:48 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 23:46:48 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2145487) I 23:46:48 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2145487) I 00:00:21 Exporting Graph Data... I 00:00:21 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_MONTAG-18-FEBRUAR-2008_23-38_MCC-004-00_8x.ibg I 00:00:21 Export Successfully Completed! I 00:00:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:13:33 I 00:00:21 Average Verify Rate: 5.277 KB/s (3.8x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 15.931 KB/s (11.5x)
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Sorry, I meant a discovery test with those types of media. It's the only way to rule certain things out.
MIG Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 (edited) Oops, now I'm completely confused: 1.) Pio-112 setup as single drive (cable select) on its ATA-channel and burning data @16x (tested already another UDMA cable weeks ago): I 12:44:30 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 12:44:30 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4) I 12:44:30 Total Physical Memory: 523.760 KB - Available: 324.116 KB I 12:47:03 Operation Started! I 12:47:03 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:47:03 Source File Sectors: 2.144.560 (MODE1/2048) I 12:47:03 Source File Size: 4.392.058.880 bytes I 12:47:03 Source File Volume Identifier: I 12:47:03 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 12:47:03 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 12:47:03 Destination Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 12:47:03 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 12:47:03 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 12:47:03 Write Mode: DVD I 12:47:03 Write Type: DAO I 12:47:03 Write Speed: 16x I 12:47:03 Link Size: Auto I 12:47:03 Test Mode: No I 12:47:03 OPC: Yes I 12:47:03 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 12:47:30 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 12:47:31 Writing LeadIn... I 12:47:32 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2144559) I 12:47:32 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2144559) I 12:52:23 Synchronising Cache... I 12:52:24 Closing Track... I 12:52:25 Finalising Disc... I 12:52:47 Exporting Graph Data... I 12:52:47 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_12-47_MCC-004-00_16x.ibg I 12:52:47 Export Successfully Completed! I 12:52:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:44 I 12:52:47 Average Write Rate: 14.739 KB/s (10.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 21.582 KB/s (15.6x) I 12:52:47 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 12:53:07 Device Ready! I 12:53:07 Operation Started! I 12:53:07 Source Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 12:53:07 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 12:53:07 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 12:53:07 Image File Sectors: 2.144.560 (MODE1/2048) I 12:53:07 Image File Size: 4.392.058.880 bytes I 12:53:07 Image File Volume Identifier: I 12:53:07 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 12:53:07 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 12:53:07 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 12:53:08 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2144559) I 12:53:08 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2144559) I 13:06:12 Exporting Graph Data... I 13:06:12 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_12-47_MCC-004-00_16x.ibg I 13:06:12 Export Successfully Completed! I 13:06:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:13:04 I 13:06:12 Average Verify Rate: 5.470 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 16.016 KB/s (11.6x) Doh! 2.) Pio-112 back on its original position (as slave, master is PLEXTOR PX-320A and both jumpered as cable select) burning DISCOVERY @MAX: I 13:16:53 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 13:16:53 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4) I 13:16:53 Total Physical Memory: 523.760 KB - Available: 332.752 KB I 13:16:53 Initialising SPTI... I 13:16:53 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 13:16:54 Found 1 CD-ROM, 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 13:18:27 Operation Started! I 13:18:27 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 13:18:27 Source File Sectors: 2.295.104 (MODE1/2048) I 13:18:27 Source File Size: 4.700.372.992 bytes I 13:18:27 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 13:18:27 Source File File System(s): None I 13:18:27 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 13:18:27 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 13:18:27 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 13:18:27 Write Mode: DVD I 13:18:27 Write Type: DAO I 13:18:27 Write Speed: MAX I 13:18:27 Link Size: Auto I 13:18:27 Test Mode: No I 13:18:27 OPC: Yes I 13:18:27 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 13:18:56 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 13:18:56 Writing LeadIn... I 13:18:58 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2295103) I 13:18:58 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2295103) I 13:24:58 Synchronising Cache... I 13:24:59 Closing Track... I 13:25:01 Finalising Disc... I 13:25:16 Exporting Graph Data... I 13:25:16 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_13-18_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 13:25:16 Export Successfully Completed! I 13:25:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:48 I 13:25:16 Average Write Rate: 12.750 KB/s (9.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 24.828 KB/s (17.9x) I 13:25:16 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 13:25:36 Device Ready! I 13:25:36 Operation Started! I 13:25:36 Source Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 13:25:36 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 13:25:36 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 13:25:36 Image File Sectors: 2.295.104 (MODE1/2048) I 13:25:36 Image File Size: 4.700.372.992 bytes I 13:25:36 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 13:25:36 Image File File System(s): None I 13:25:36 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 13:25:36 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2295103) I 13:25:36 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2295103) I 13:30:30 Exporting Graph Data... I 13:30:30 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_13-18_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 13:30:30 Export Successfully Completed! I 13:30:30 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:53 I 13:30:30 Average Verify Rate: 15.666 KB/s (11.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 23.148 KB/s (16.7x) Gala burn+verify!? 3.) Back to real data @16x: I 13:38:52 ImgBurn Version 2.4.0.0 started! I 13:38:52 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4) I 13:38:52 Total Physical Memory: 523.760 KB - Available: 316.492 KB I 13:38:52 Initialising SPTI... I 13:38:52 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 13:38:52 Found 1 CD-ROM, 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW/RAM! I 13:40:11 Operation Started! I 13:40:11 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 13:40:11 Source File Sectors: 2.098.560 (MODE1/2048) I 13:40:11 Source File Size: 4.297.850.880 bytes I 13:40:11 Source File Volume Identifier: I 13:40:11 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 13:40:11 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 13:40:11 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 13:40:11 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 13:40:11 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 13:40:11 Write Mode: DVD I 13:40:11 Write Type: DAO I 13:40:11 Write Speed: 16x I 13:40:11 Link Size: Auto I 13:40:11 Test Mode: No I 13:40:11 OPC: Yes I 13:40:11 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 13:40:39 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 13:40:40 Writing LeadIn... I 13:40:41 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2098559) I 13:40:41 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2098559) I 13:45:43 Synchronising Cache... I 13:45:44 Closing Track... I 13:45:46 Finalising Disc... I 13:46:11 Exporting Graph Data... I 13:46:11 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_13-40_MCC-004-00_16x.ibg I 13:46:11 Export Successfully Completed! I 13:46:11 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:00 I 13:46:11 Average Write Rate: 13.897 KB/s (10.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 17.794 KB/s (12.8x) I 13:46:11 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 13:46:32 Device Ready! I 13:46:32 Operation Started! I 13:46:32 Source Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 13:46:32 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 13:46:32 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 13:46:32 Image File Sectors: 2.098.560 (MODE1/2048) I 13:46:32 Image File Size: 4.297.850.880 bytes I 13:46:32 Image File Volume Identifier: I 13:46:32 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 13:46:32 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 13:46:32 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 13:46:32 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2098559) I 13:46:32 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2098559) I 13:59:39 Exporting Graph Data... I 13:59:39 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_13-40_MCC-004-00_16x.ibg I 13:59:39 Export Successfully Completed! I 13:59:39 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:13:07 I 13:59:39 Average Verify Rate: 5.339 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 15.648 KB/s (11.3x) Doh! 4.) Verbatim MiT are out of stock now, pulling out Verbatim MiJ and burning data @MAX: I 14:05:44 Operation Started! I 14:05:44 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 14:05:44 Source File Sectors: 2.142.016 (MODE1/2048) I 14:05:44 Source File Size: 4.386.848.768 bytes I 14:05:44 Source File Volume Identifier: I 14:05:44 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 14:05:44 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 14:05:44 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 14:05:44 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T03-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 14:05:44 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 14:05:44 Write Mode: DVD I 14:05:44 Write Type: DAO I 14:05:44 Write Speed: MAX I 14:05:44 Link Size: Auto I 14:05:44 Test Mode: No I 14:05:44 OPC: Yes I 14:05:44 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 14:06:11 Filling Buffer... (20 MB) I 14:06:12 Writing LeadIn... I 14:06:13 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2142015) I 14:06:13 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2142015) I 14:10:38 Synchronising Cache... I 14:10:39 Closing Track... I 14:10:41 Finalising Disc... I 14:11:06 Exporting Graph Data... I 14:11:06 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_14-05_YUDEN000-T03-00_MAX.ibg I 14:11:06 Export Successfully Completed! I 14:11:06 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:22 I 14:11:06 Average Write Rate: 16.227 KB/s (11.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 23.867 KB/s (17.2x) I 14:11:06 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 14:11:27 Device Ready! I 14:11:27 Operation Started! I 14:11:27 Source Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 14:11:27 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T03-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 14:11:27 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 14:11:27 Image File Sectors: 2.142.016 (MODE1/2048) I 14:11:27 Image File Size: 4.386.848.768 bytes I 14:11:27 Image File Volume Identifier: I 14:11:27 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 14:11:27 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 14:11:27 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 14:11:27 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2142015) I 14:11:27 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2142015) I 14:22:04 Exporting Graph Data... I 14:22:04 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\ImgBurn\IBG Files\PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-112_1.24_DIENSTAG-19-FEBRUAR-2008_14-05_YUDEN000-T03-00_MAX.ibg I 14:22:04 Export Successfully Completed! I 14:22:04 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:36 I 14:22:04 Average Verify Rate: 6.735 KB/s (4.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 17.742 KB/s (12.8x) Doh! Done with DVDInfoPro now and OS rolled back. Edited February 19, 2008 by MIG
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 So basically anything that also involves reading from the hdd appears to kill it. It would therefore make sense that the buffer bar must be dropping off from 100% when it starts to die. That should be pretty obvious if you keep an eye on it. Personally, I keep well clear of 'Cable Select', it's evil! When burning data, are your hdd's sata or just on the other ide channel?
dontasciime Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Only things I have ever run @ cable select were my xboxes. Pio drives seem to like Master on 80 wire. Cable Select is something Dell seem to like doing and Hell soon follows (avoid cable select) Evil it is.
spinningwheel Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Cable Select is something Dell seem to like doing and Hell soon follows (avoid cable select) Only problem with that is if you have an EMachine build, then cable-select is your only option. a couple years back I tried to make the system compliant with the whole master/slave thingy and had to have the service tech come out to my home to fix the system.
MIG Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 OK, I found it! But lets do it step by step: Cable select is a reliable mode if you have proper hardware. Usually Intel chipsets have no problem with cable select and my chipset in this case is Intel 865PE. I have also done over 200 DVDs with this rock solid machine and the Pio-111 (of course set as cable select and slave on 2nd ATA) like a clockwork with burn/verify times always @6:15/6:30. This should be proof enough. But there is a difference in my setup now: I did nearly all burns with the Pio-111 from an external IEEE1394 drive (Icybox 350 + Maxtor 6Y160P0). Last year I added a Seagate ST3500630A (500 GB) as slave on 1st ATA and this is my current data source. Newer and larger HDDs are usually always faster so I never thought about it. Here is the read speed log from my IEEE1394 drive using ImgBurn as benchmark I 18:23:41 Operation Started! I 18:23:41 Image Contents: 10 Files, 1 Folder I 18:23:41 Image Sectors: 2.147.136 I 18:23:41 Image Size: 4.397.334.528 bytes I 18:23:41 Image Single Layer Profile: DVD+R/RW (Media Capacity: 2.295.104) I 18:23:41 Image Volume Identifier: I 18:23:41 Image Volume Set Identifier: UNDEFINED I 18:23:41 Image Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! I 18:23:41 Image File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 18:23:41 Destination File: E:\test.iso I 18:23:41 Destination Free Space: 160.371.068.928 bytes (156.612.372 KB) (152.941 MB) (149 GB) I 18:23:41 Destination File System: NTFS I 18:23:41 File Splitting: Auto I 18:23:42 Writing Image... I 18:25:41 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:01:59 I 18:25:41 Average Write Rate: 36.086 KB/s (26.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 44.547 KB/s (32.2x) Looking into the DISCOVERY log the the read time for a full DVD5 is now 4:53 (it was 6:30 for Pio-111) so I increased ImgBurn's buffer from 20MB to 40MB and did the burn with IEEE1394 drive as source I 18:27:34 Operation Started! I 18:27:34 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:27:34 Source File Sectors: 2.147.136 (MODE1/2048) I 18:27:34 Source File Size: 4.397.334.528 bytes I 18:27:34 Source File Volume Identifier: I 18:27:34 Source File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 18:27:34 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 18:27:34 Destination Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 18:27:34 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T03-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 18:27:34 Destination Media Sectors: 2.295.104 I 18:27:34 Write Mode: DVD I 18:27:34 Write Type: DAO I 18:27:34 Write Speed: MAX I 18:27:34 Link Size: Auto I 18:27:34 Test Mode: No I 18:27:34 OPC: Yes I 18:27:34 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:28:01 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 18:28:03 Writing LeadIn... I 18:28:03 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2147135) I 18:28:03 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2147135) I 18:32:25 Synchronising Cache... I 18:32:26 Closing Track... I 18:32:27 Finalising Disc... I 18:32:48 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:14 I 18:32:48 Average Write Rate: 16.453 KB/s (11.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 24.093 KB/s (17.4x) I 18:32:48 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 18:33:08 Device Ready! I 18:33:08 Operation Started! I 18:33:08 Source Device: [1:1:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112 1.24 (S:) (ATA) I 18:33:08 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: YUDEN000-T03-00) (Speeds: 4x; 6x; 8x; 12x; 16x; 18x) I 18:33:08 Image File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:33:08 Image File Sectors: 2.147.136 (MODE1/2048) I 18:33:08 Image File Size: 4.397.334.528 bytes I 18:33:08 Image File Volume Identifier: I 18:33:08 Image File Application Identifier: ImgBurn v2.4.0.0 - The Ultimate Image Burner! I 18:33:08 Image File File System(s): ISO9660; Joliet I 18:33:08 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX I 18:33:08 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2147135) I 18:33:08 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2147135) I 18:37:53 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:40 I 18:37:53 Average Verify Rate: 15.336 KB/s (11.1x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22.554 KB/s (16.3x) Et voila! Now I have to investigate what's wrong with my Seagate HDD.
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