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Having used ImgBurn successfully with DVD-5s, and liking its log function, I tried today to make a DL backup of a DVD-9 iso (ripped w/our fave ripper ;) no errors with *it*) and it failed. Two dollar coaster resulted (Verbatims I've had 100% success with in the past). I loaded-up another DL disc and successfully made my copy using my usual RecordNow 7.3.

 

I suppose I could have found a bad blank, but I looked at it closely w/my lighted magnifying glass and I could see no visual glitches. Here's the log--I think I used all defaults; if anyone can see something that I might have done wrong by all means let me know:

 

I 11:41:00 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started!

I 11:41:00 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)

I 11:41:00 Initialising SPTI...

I 11:41:00 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 11:41:00 Found 2 DVD-ROMs and 1 DVD?RW!

I 11:43:41 Operation Started!

I 11:43:41 Source File: D:\CONCERT.MDS

I 11:43:41 Source File Sectors: 3,909,952 (MODE1/2048)

I 11:43:41 Source File Size: 8,007,581,696 bytes

I 11:43:41 Source File Volume Identifier: CONCERT

I 11:43:41 Source File Implementation Identifier: Daikin U.S. Comtec Lab

I 11:43:41 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 11:43:41 Destination Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 8.58 (F:) (ATA)

I 11:43:41 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x)

I 11:43:41 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824

I 11:43:41 Write Mode: DVD

I 11:43:41 Write Type: DAO

I 11:43:41 Write Speed: MAX

I 11:43:41 Link Size: Auto

I 11:43:41 Test Mode: No

I 11:43:41 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 11:43:41 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,021,632

I 11:43:41 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc

I 11:43:57 Filling Buffer...

I 11:43:59 Writing LeadIn...

I 11:44:09 Writing Image...

I 11:44:09 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2021631)

W 11:44:28 Failed to Write Sectors 71840 - 71871 - Write Error

W 11:44:28 Retrying (1 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (2 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (3 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (4 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (5 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (6 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (7 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (8 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (9 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (10 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (11 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (12 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (13 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (14 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (15 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (16 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (17 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (18 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (19 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:32 Retrying (20 of 20)...

W 11:44:32 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

W 11:44:48 Retrying (21)...

W 11:44:48 Retry Failed - Invalid Address For Write

E 11:44:50 Failed to Write Sectors 71840 - 71871 - Write Error

I 11:44:50 Synchronising Cache...

I 11:44:51 Closing Track...

I 11:44:53 Finalising Disc...

W 11:47:42 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (1/2) - Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium

E 11:47:49 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium

E 11:47:49 Failed to Write Image!

E 11:47:49 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:08

I 11:47:49 Average Write Rate: 3,592 KB/s (2.6x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,346 KB/s (6.0x)

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Pioneer is showing 1.58 as the latest firmware for the 109, is yours a hacked firmware? Anyway, looks like you might just have got a bad disc, which is very rare for Verb MKM-001-00 discs, but not unheard of. If you send it back to them, they will honor their lifetime warranty and send you a replacement.

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I think those MKM-001s are, in fact, rated at 2.4x. That's what I burn them at.

 

Regards

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I think those MKM-001s are, in fact, rated at 2.4x. That's what I burn them at.
Well, although that's what the packaging says, it also says "compatible w/8x burners" (look here) and apparently 2.4x, 4x, and 6x are commonly expected to work.

 

I can't honestly say what RecordNow records them at (I have *it* set to MAX also) as it doesn't have any sort of logfile or useable progress info (which is why I was attracted to ImgBurn in the first place). Afraid these are too expensive to "experiment" with--I'll stick w/RN7.3 for DL media... :blush:

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I think you were just unlucky with that disc.

 

The drive returned a 'write error' so basically it had the problem, not ImgBurn.

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I think you were just unlucky with that disc.

 

The drive returned a 'write error' so basically it had the problem, not ImgBurn.

Thanks LUK, that's the answer I was looking for. I knew there was always a chance I'd get a bad disc, but posted the log hoping for someone to "lift the fog".

 

For the record, while I *am* using Buffalo's firmware for my 109, it is not to my knowledge "hacked" in any way; at least I dl'ed it from their official website...

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unless the firmware comes from Pioneer then its considered hacked and not official

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I have just got the same error. It's the 1st time I've tried ImgBurn. I think the cause for me is not a disc fault as I have written to these discs with Nero without errors. I am using the latest official firmware in my Pioneer DVR-110.

 

After it failed I tried the various Tools->Drive->Close options. As far as I can make out Tools->Drive->Close->Track never did anything, and currently the others say 'Incomplete Track in Session'. The verify, as you can see, succeeded, but the disc is not readable in my DVD player.

 

Is there any way this disc can be revived?

 

 

I 05:08:00 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.0 started!

I 05:08:00 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (5.0, Build 2195 : Service Pack 4)

W 05:08:00 Drive C:\ (FAT) does not support single files > 4 GB

I 05:08:00 Initialising SPTI...

I 05:08:00 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...

I 05:08:00 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM, 1 DVD?RW and 1 DVD?RW/RAM!

I 05:08:01 Operation Started!

I 05:08:01 Source File: F:\temp\shrink.ISO

I 05:08:01 Source File Sectors: 3,371,855 (MODE1/2048)

I 05:08:01 Source File Size: 6,905,559,040 bytes

I 05:08:01 Source File Volume Identifier: DISC

I 05:08:01 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 05:08:01 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 05:08:01 Destination Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110 1.41 (X:) (ATA)

I 05:08:01 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D01-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 05:08:01 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824

I 05:08:01 Write Mode: DVD

I 05:08:01 Write Type: DAO

I 05:08:01 Write Speed: MAX

I 05:08:01 Link Size: Auto

I 05:08:01 Test Mode: No

I 05:08:01 BURN-Proof: Enabled

I 05:54:41 Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: 2026560 (VTS_02, PGC: 8, Cell: 26, Vob/Cell ID: 5/5, Time: 01:46:37, SPLIP: Yes -> No)

I 05:54:41 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,026,560

I 05:54:41 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: IFO Cell Boundary

I 05:55:10 Filling Buffer...

I 05:55:11 Writing LeadIn...

I 05:55:13 Writing Image...

I 05:55:13 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2026559)

I 06:16:22 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2026560 - 3371854)

I 06:30:40 Synchronising Cache...

I 06:30:41 Closing Track...

I 06:30:49 Finalising Disc...

W 06:34:01 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (1/2) - Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium

W 06:40:47 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (1/2) - Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium

W 06:44:24 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (1/2) - Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium

E 06:45:46 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Positioning Error Detected by Read of Medium

I 06:45:46 Image MD5: b10486b7bc908c592ed4d8ef9d56bbe3

I 06:45:46 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 01:37:45

I 06:45:46 Average Write Rate: 3,170 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,516 KB/s (2.5x)

I 06:45:46 Cycling Tray before Verify...

I 06:46:18 Device Ready!

I 06:46:18 Operation Started!

I 06:46:18 Source Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110 1.41 (X:) (ATA)

I 06:46:18 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD+R DL) (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D01-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

I 06:46:18 Image File: F:\temp\shrink.ISO

I 06:46:18 Image File Sectors: 3,371,855 (MODE1/2048)

I 06:46:18 Image File Size: 6,905,559,040 bytes

I 06:46:18 Image File Volume Identifier: DISC

I 06:46:18 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink

I 06:46:18 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)

I 06:46:22 Verifying Sectors...

I 07:21:02 Device MD5: b10486b7bc908c592ed4d8ef9d56bbe3

I 07:21:02 Device (Padded) MD5: 5d1c9663650719e76e623b93e3edd11d

I 07:21:02 Image MD5: b10486b7bc908c592ed4d8ef9d56bbe3

I 07:21:02 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:34:44

I 07:21:02 Average Verify Rate: 3,242 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 3,595 KB/s (2.6x)

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http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780

 

The guide above is for burning DVD files direct to Dual layer media - did you follow that ?

 

Also, that media is terrible, I am sure it's probably worked in the past for you but I would seriously questions its longetivity - if your burning dual layer don't waste your time or money on anything other than Verbatim DataLife + DL discs. :)

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I 06:46:18 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD+R DL) (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D01-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)

 

I agree with lfc, get some Verbs... :thumbup:

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I 05:08:01 Source File: F:\temp\shrink.ISO

 

DVD Shrink does not work properly for setting the layer break it was never meant to support dual layer discs use Daemon tools to turn the iso back to files then use IMGburn in build mode to create the ISO ,you'll have an ISO with the layer break in the proper position,and like its been said those CMC MAG discs leave a lot to be desired ,but the ISo will be correct

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'Close -> Track' is the one that should be used first. If/when that works properly, the other 2 won't give that 'incomplete track' error.

 

Most players won't read an unfinalised disc, that's probably why it won't play it at the moment. The drive also won't bitset to DVDROM until that's done.

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I redid it using ImgBurn in build mode and it worked fine :). Thanks for the info.

 

Verbs are out the question due to cost unfortunately, but I'll know now to use them for more important discs.

 

As some have seen, I made the ISO with DVD Shrink. I'd not used ImgBurn before, and didn't know it could work directly from files. One of the sticky threads was all about building ISOs with Shrink so I presumed that was the thing to do. Perhaps something like the guide lfcrule1972 linked to should be made sticky.

 

The only bit in it that I didn't understand was the following:

'Whilst here, you can make sure your drive has bit setting set to DVD-ROM for Dual Layer media. (if your drive supports it)'

 

I couldn't see any reference to this in the programme. What does this setting mean, and where do I find it?

 

I'm still puzzled as to why it didn't work via Shrink, and why polopony says 'DVD Shrink does not work properly for setting the layer break', since ImgBurn seemed to think *it* had set the layer break.

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DVD Shrink (no longer supported or updated ) was a program that was written before there were dual layer discs and putting the layer break in the proper spot was not an issue, it was really written for things to go onto single layer discs .IMGburn on the other hand was written to take into account the proper positioning of the layer break and was also written after Dual Layer discs were introduced

 

Don't know where you live but the cost between Verb DL and Memorex or whatever brand isn't that great, if you post where you live (country)we can tell you where to get the best deal,sales etc :thumbup:

 

Bitsetting is making players think that theres a DVD Rom disc in it instead of a +R media or +R DL

the Buffalo Firmware offers full bitsetting , its a hacked firmware and not official Pioneer .If you open IMGburn in the lower right corner theres a little book,if you click on it there are a number of drive manufacturers, by selecting your drives manufacturer you can change +R or +R DL to appear as DVD ROM which makes the media more compatible to players especially older ones that might not support +R/+R DL, Pioneer is not one of the selections .If you're interested in the buffalo firmware Google DVDRW 110 bitsetting

 

PARTIAL Bitsetting

All official Pioneer DVR-A10/110/110D firmwares to date only do PARTIAL AUTO Bitsetting. The Pioneer firmwares are only missing setting DVD+R discs to BookType DVD-ROM.

 

FULL Bitsetting

The Buffalo firmwares do what Pioneer firmwares miss (intentional?) on DVD+R discs. This ensures maximum DVD playback compatibility on home (or other) DVD players.

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Verbs are out the question due to cost unfortunately, but I'll know now to use them for more important discs.

Then your problems will continue. The reason Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden are expensive is because they are quality media. Put it another way, none of the beta guys or L_UK use anything except Verbs or TY. That should tell you something. CMC MAG media really is garbage.

The only bit in it that I didn't understand was the following:

'Whilst here, you can make sure your drive has bit setting set to DVD-ROM for Dual Layer media. (if your drive supports it)'

 

I couldn't see any reference to this in the programme. What does this setting mean, and where do I find it?

Dual layer +R media needs to have its booktype set as DVD-ROM. What this does is ensure the burned disk will work in a normal DVD player. As you're lucky enough to have a Pioneer drive you don't have to worry about it as the bitsetting is done automatically. Most other drives need to have this set prior to burning.
I'm still puzzled as to why it didn't work via Shrink, and why polopony says 'DVD Shrink does not work properly for setting the layer break', since ImgBurn seemed to think *it* had set the layer break.

DVD Shrink doesn't correctly set the layer break. Why would it? It was designed to compress video to fit onto a single layer disk. :)

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Verbs are out the question due to cost unfortunately, but I'll know now to use them for more important discs.

Then your problems will continue.

I'm sure Verbatims are great, but since I've not had any problems due to the quality of the media I can't see much sense in your claim that problems will continue.

 

I'm still puzzled as to why it didn't work via Shrink, and why polopony says 'DVD Shrink does not work properly for setting the layer break', since ImgBurn seemed to think *it* had set the layer break.

DVD Shrink doesn't correctly set the layer break. Why would it? It was designed to compress video to fit onto a single layer disk. :)

You're missing my point, which was: ImgBurn didn't report any problems with the ISO, and said *it* was setting a layer break. Thus the fact that DVD Shrink doesn't set the layer break is not relevant for any obvious reason. But perhaps there is some more subtle issue regarding the layer break and the Shrink ISO.

 

Also, DVD Shrink does have settings for handling DL disks, so your question 'Why would it' (get it right) seems rather odd. If it has settings for DL, it *ought* to handle them correctly.

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On this occassion you were actually quite lucky and a Cell did just happen to land on an LBA that's a multiple of 16 - this is a basic requirement for ImgBurn to make use of it.

 

As such, your layer break was actually ok in the first burn - but this WAS a fluke and that's why DVD Shrink should never be used to build double layer images.

 

DL burning wasn't anywhere near as common as it is now and the author never had the chance to, nor got around to fully implementing support for it.

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FULL Bitsetting

The Buffalo firmwares do what Pioneer firmwares miss (intentional?) on DVD+R discs. This ensures maximum DVD playback compatibility on home (or other) DVD players.

Thanks for the info polopony. I tracked down the Buffalo firmare. However, since it's a few months older than the latest official one, and my DL DVDs are actually playing OK in my fairly old Toshiba player, I'm in two minds as to whether I'll install it.

 

Don't know where you live but the cost between Verb DL and Memorex or whatever brand isn't that great, if you post where you live (country)we can tell you where to get the best deal,sales etc :thumbup:

I'm in the UK & usually buy from SVP. Verb Datalife are currently ?1.90. I'll shortly be trying some Datawrite Full-Face Printable (8x) DL DVD+R which are ?0.64 each, so you can see why I'm reluctant to buy the Verbatims. Would be interested to hear of any cheaper sources.

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that 1.90 pounds converts to about $3.70US so I can see why you dont want to spend the money ,here in the US we can get them for as little as $1.20(sales) which converts to 51p a really big difference, we can get basically 3 for the price you pay for 1. I still put everything on SL's and everything views fine for my needs

 

like its been said (LUK)you did get lucky with Shrink setting the LB right but if you arent convinced continue to use it for DL stuff and you will see for yourself .IB on the other hand gets it right time after time and even gives you choices of whats the best spot so why chance it

 

Make use of the advise ,we've been doing this for awhile ,the same core of beta testers has been around for I guess 5-6 years now ( time sure flys ) and the new beta testers for IMGburn are A1 also, very knowledgeable .The beta testers having done much testing of media and drives know what discs perform the best and thats Verbs and Yudens its just fact .Its a lot of time and effort to do dvd's and you would hate to see that the media has degraded over time and made all your work and expence for naught.

 

If the +R's play OK in your player then that suits your needs .I myself would like to be able to set everything to ROM but my NEC3500 doesn't support bitsetting for +R but burns excellent so for now I wont replace it .The Sony stand alone player plays them fine :thumbup:

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I think you were just unlucky with that disc.

 

The drive returned a 'write error' so basically it had the problem, not ImgBurn.

 

Hi, I also faced an error with DL DVD dics, did try to burn a DL disk and it did worked till 4.7GB and and then gave error and just came out. When i check it in IMGBurn it says 4GB free, but now i can't write any thing on it, I have the image file created from previous software 'Clone DVD' which IMGBurn can read but will it be albe to write the left of data on to the dis or can i reformat the DVD and use it for leftover 4GB .....

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You can't erase write once media (WORM) and all DVD+R DL discs are write once media.

 

So if your drive crapped out on the 2nd layer, the disc is now pretty much useless.

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On this occassion you were actually quite lucky and a Cell did just happen to land on an LBA that's a multiple of 16 - this is a basic requirement for ImgBurn to make use of it.

 

As such, your layer break was actually OK in the first burn - but this WAS a fluke and that's why DVD Shrink should never be used to build double layer images.

I noticed that when I used ImgBurn in build mode I was offered a lot of choices for the layer break, but with the Shrink ISO there was only one offered. So have I got this correct: when ImgBurn is used in build mode, it organizes things such that there'll be plenty of possible positions for the layer break to choose from later?

 

here in the US we can get (Verbatims) for as little as $1.20

Interesting. I guess they will reach that price here eventually :(

 

like its been said (LUK)you did get lucky with Shrink setting the LB right but if you aren't convinced continue to use it for DL stuff and you will see for yourself

Oh I am convinced that Shrink is not a good thing to use for this purpose (due to both the fact that only one layer break position was offered, and the fact that it didn't work!).

 

What I am not clear on, though, is why the burn actually failed to finalise. The only explanation that's been suggested is the quality of the media, but I am still doubtful. I've certainly never had a problem resembling this with poor SL media. Is it possible that ImgBurn has some other compatibility issue with DL sized ISOs made by Shrink? If so, it would be preferable if it would warn, or refuse to handle them.

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I cannot modify the phyiscal layout of an ISO file. Once it has been made, it has been made! All the file system pointers expect a file to begin / end at a certain position.

 

For a prebuilt ISO a Cell must already just happen to start on an LBA that's a multiple of 16 for ImgBurn to suggest it as a potential layer break position. So that's what happens in Write mode.

 

When you're in Build mode, I have control over the positioning of files so I can apply padding to the file system to MAKE a cell start on an LBA that's a multiple of 16. That's why it gives you more choices.

 

If DVD Shrink makes an ISO and ImgBurn finds a potential layer break position, from my point of view, you have nothing to worry about.

When ImgBurn cannot locate a Cell to use for the physical layer break, it WILL tell the user.

This issue is not limited to DVD Shrink, any program that makes a double layer ISO would really need to align a cell properly so it can be used for the layer break position.

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