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Windows 10 will let you use packet writing to make BD-RE SL/DL into giant floppies/USB drives. I use it the first of every month to copy backup files to BD-RE DL.

Well, it's really beyond the scope of ImgBurn. ImgBurn creates and burns images. Creating "CD labels" is not really in its wheelhouse. Plus, as you say, Lightscribe is dead. I used to use it all the time when I got my first LiteOn that incorporated it. I stopped eventually because the labels, even when the options weres set to write at best quality in the driver, would fade away after about a year. Plus, the label surface stinks to high heaven. I don't know if it actually matters, but I would be slightly worried about scent molecules from the discs getting into the drive and affect the laser's ability to read/write. Also, doesn't the Lightscribe driver no longer work with Windows 10? I think that was another reason why I got rid of my external LiteOn USB burner that still supported Lightscribe. If you do invest in either Nero's or Roxio's applications, you'd better find out ahead of time if they still support Lightscribe since the format is dead. And finding discs may be hard, too. Last time I found them a few years ago, Amazon.com was only selling them in packs of 10 each, where I used to get the cake stacks of 50 each.

So what did you do to get it to work? Just use ImgBurn's default settings and enable the drive's hypertuning? I'm curious now.

Does anyone know what the various features for the options in Pioneer's BD Drive Utility do? I'm guessing if Advanced Quiet Drive Feature is turned on, this slows down the read or write operations so the drive doesn't make as much noise because the drive isn't spinning as fast? I'm also guessing this feature probably only affects read operations, though. What is PureRead? What does it do? There are Perfect and Master Modes. What do these Modes do?

Oh, he's trying to overburn? I've never gotten a single overburn to any media to ever work. So, that may be your problem right there.

There's nothing you can do with those files. You may have an OEM model variant of those drives, at which point the standard firmware updates won't work. Try the SmartPack utility to see if there are any firmware you can download and install. http://www.liteonodd.com/en/service-support/download/cat_view/44-/54- Scroll down to the bottom of that page for the download link. SmartPack works for all LiteOn drives, they say, so if your drive is being called the ihas124 internally and it actually isn't one, this utility might actually find the firmware you need. If that doesn't work, I wouldn't bother with trying to update the firmware because no firmware update package will probably work for that drive. What might be a problem is the age of the drive. LiteOn doesn't make optical drives anymore as far as I know. So, whatever you're going to have is probably old. Notice the SmartPack utility was last updated more than 5 years ago, in 2012. So, it's probably been 5 years since LiteOn released an optical drive. The drive may simply be too older than the modern implementation of the MKM media. As I said before, it may be a case of your LiteOn simply not liking writing to MKM media.

Did you try both the CL09 and CL99 files? One may update your drive and one may not. Depending on your revision. Since both files are dated the same day, they appear to update different kinds of the iHAS124 F. Since your firmware begins with CL9 and the F uses the CL9 naming scheme and none of the other iHAS124 firmware use that naming scheme, it seems the F is the drive you have. Plus, if your drive is external, which it doesn't appear to be, but I don't know why it's listed as an ATA drive instead of something like SATA, unless it's a parallel ATA drive, the firmwares generally don't update external drives. Even though the internal drive in the external drive is the same, the firmwares rarely update external drives. It's just a guess. I didn't know for sure you had the revision F drive.

I take it this is your first time burning discs? Or have you successfully burned before and this just started? Since I think this is your first time, I can't really say much of anything as to what this would be. It seems to be occurring just before the layer change. The layer change is where the vast majority of failures occur when burning double layer discs. Your Disc ID shows you're probably using the good stuff from Verbatim/Mitsubishi, so that's probably not an issue. You might want to check for a firmware update to your drive. There could be an updated write strategy for that drive and the MKM media you're using. It seems you're using the LiteOn iHAS124 F. I'm not entirely sure because there are many different drives called the iHAS124 with firmware on the web site ImgBurn uses for that drive. However, this part of the log: Destination Device: [2:1:0] ATAPI iHAS124 F CL9M (E:) (ATA) seems to indicate you're using the iHAS124 F, if the F before the CL9M is the revision type and CL9M is the firmware you're currently using. According to this: http://www.firmwarehq.com/Lite-On/iHAS124%2BF/files.html there are CL09 and CL99 firmware updates. I don't know if these will update your drive or not. Try, in Write mode, right clicking on this drive drive in the Destination drop down list and choosing the last option to check for firmware updates. See if ImgBurn finds any firmware update pages I didn't. At this point, I'd say it's a case of your drive not liking MKM media, for whatever reason. Either because of an outdated write strategy or the drive needs replacing. If it's an outdated write strategy, a firmware update may fix that. It's generally a good idea to use the latest firmware. Not always the case; looking at you, Pioneer! But, it's generally recommended.

Please post the log. If you need to access it, open Help and choose ImgBurn Logs. Then, you can open the .log file in any text file editor and copy and paste the part of the log that contains the failed burn.

It seems ASUS internal models may very well be junk. My first ASUS was an external BD that passed every single media test I threw at it. Playback of all media also passed. So, I had high hopes for my first internal ASUS BD drive. BIG mistake. The drive was junk. Doesn't write to rewritable media correctly. In fact, it destroys rewritable media once written so that it can't be used anymore! I tried a 2nd unit of the same model and it did the same thing, so it's the drive, not just the one unit I got that may have been faulty. It's a design flaw.

I used to use LiteOn DVD drives all the time after Optiarc went away. They always had a problem of randomly adding pauses in DVD Video that weren't layer breaks. However, they only did it like 1 in every 25 discs. The BD LiteOn I had it did it 2 out of 3 times. Those two factors, coupled with my LiteOn failing to write to BD-RE after 3 months, put LiteOn on my junk list. And since LiteOn no longer appears to make any optical drives, it's a moot point.

Have you tried Verifying/Reading any other kind of media, like DVD or CD, in this LG and see if you also get the same failure? Have you tried Verifying one of these burnt BD-R in the LiteOn and see if the LiteOn fails to Verfiy? If Verify fails on both the LG and the LiteOn, then there's something other than the drive being at fault. If the LG Verify fails but the LiteOn Verify passes, it's the LG drive failing Verify for whatever reason. I'm surprised you have any luck with a LiteOn BD drive. They no longer make them and, as far as my experience went, that's a good thing. My first BD drive was a LiteOn that stopped writing to all BD-RE after 3 months. And it was randomly inserting pauses in 2/3 of the DVD Video discs I created with it that weren't layer breaks.

I still find it odd the issue occurred in the first place on an SATA connected device. I've only ever seen semaphore timeout errors when trying to burn to USB drives. And always with writes, not reads. Personally, I'm rather surprised the issue went away. Experience would dictate the problem may have been a bad sector on the HDD. So, next time data is written to that area, you might experience the issue again. However, the way I see it, as long you can find a solution that works, you go with it and be grateful.

You'd think as a beta tester of the software, I'd be more familiar with all of its functions. I had forgotten there was a write to disc option in the main menu because I've never used it. Really. I've never used it before. If you're just burning MKV's, I'd say Riplock is probably not an issue for your slow reads. I'd think Riplock would only kick on discs that have a VIDEO_TS folder in the root directory. But, I don't know for sure. Daemon Tools does install that driver, I believe. If I had to harbor a guess, I'd say it's probably not an issue, but you can try disabling it and see if it affects just that one manufactuer's model. I am still wondering about the XP/LG BD thing. The latest LG BD drive, an Ultra HD Blu-Ray playable model, has a problem working on Windows XP. It is recognized as a CD-ROM drive and doesn't write properly at all. However, the issue isn't a write one; it's a read one. And you say the LG will write data to the disc and the LiteOn will read that data that the LG wrote? Also, what are you writing to in the LG? DVD or BD? I'm guessing the LiteOn is a DVD drive, so you're probably writing to DVD. And, do you have a complete log you can post? Of the entire write process and the Verify process where it fails? Probably not because you can't cancel ImgBurn when this happens, just power off the system. I don't know if ImgBurn writes to the log file as each line is written out or queues it all up to write at the end of the operation.

I don't understand. You said you're not burning images, just single files, but ImgBurn only burns images. It doesn't write single files to discs. Unless you mean you're using some other software to do that while trying to troubleshoot the issue. You can set a setting to Verify against the image file contents. Otherwise, you're just basically performing a Read operation with a manual Verify. BTW, have you tried using ImgBurn to Read a non protected disc and see if it completes? If you can't get a Verify to complete, a Read should, in theory, not complete either. However, if you can complete a Read but not a Verify, that might narrow down a problem somewhere. Have you tried reading something other than a DVD Video and see if copying the contents in File Explorer is also super slow there? Because I would think Riplock should only affect trying to read a disc with a VIDEO_TS folder on it. I can't imagine Riplock kicking in for anything else because it would be a deal killer for people who knew Riplock was on a drive and it was detrimental to reading data off of a disc that wasn't a DVD Video disc. This might be your problem: W 19:18:18 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance. Have you tried disabling the SPTD driver and see if it helps the issue? Was this installed by Alcohol? Although you said you hadn't changed anything and the issue just came up. But it might have just come up with these old drives you got. The drives may have a problem with the SPTD layer. Another possible problem could be the newer age of the drives versus the age of Windows XP. Windows XP simply may not support those newer LG drives. Because, I noticed this: I 19:18:32 -> Stacja dysków CD-ROM (HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH08NS20) (0) Windows XP is recognizing your BD drive as a CD-ROM drive. I would guess that is the cause of your read/verify issue. I know the latest BD drive that LG released, the Ultra HD one, does this on Windows XP. It is recognized only as a CD ROM drive and can only be used for reading. Ah, you replied while I was typing. So, it seems you tried a manual Verify from ImgBurn and got the same thing.

You could disable the automatic Verify. There should be an option on the main Write window to uncheck for Verify, I think. Then, you issue a manual Verify and choose the drive you want to Verify against. I'd be worried simply by the age of the drives being a problem. I'd have said it may be because LG drives aren't very good readers, but you said you can copy the contents from the drive and that they copy fine. So, it wouldn't be that, I'd think. You also say the copying is slow, which would make me think there's something else going on.

Yeah, I was going to post the same thing when I read this post earlier today. Normally, semaphore time out expiration errors are from USB external burners. It's caused by a conflict between the USB bridge in the external enclosure and the controller on your PC's motherboard. I don't think I've ever seen it on an internal SATA connected drive before, either. I, too, was going to request the log, but I didn't post because I thought the log probably wouldn't help. That it would just say the semaphore timeout period expired with no other pertinent data. I was waiting for LUK to post to see about enabling Debug mode first before posting a log. To post a log with the Debug mode enabled.

It really is a case of the best of the worst. If Pioneer quality really hasn't gone off of a cliff, then Pioneer is the best manufacturer of internal BD drives, with 2 issues. Asus made a good USB drive which they don't make anymore, so maybe they make a newer USB drive that's good. But, it's probably just the internal BD they make now in a USB enclosure, so it's no good. LG BD drives are good if you don't want to write to BD-RE DL or have a guaranteed readability of media. Back in the days of DVD burners, Optiarc was the best quality you could get. LiteOn also used to be good, but they had one fatal flaw in that they'd randomly add a pause to some VIDEO_TS discs that wasn't a layer break. Their one BD drive I had did it to 2 out of 3 VIDEO_TS discs before I gave up on it after it stopped writing to BD-RE after 3 months. And now LiteOn doesn't make BD drives, and I don't think they make DVD ones anymore, either. As for being black magic, well, it's not really THAT far off of an analogy. It depends on the magician. In this case, the manufacturer. It's not really in their best interest to make a quality product, since the optical media market is all but dead. And, all they care about is profit margin. So, quality doesn't really matter to them.

Your simplest option is use a DVD+R DL or DVD-R DL blank DVD disc or a BD-R Blu-Ray blank. Use a BD-R only if the device you want to play this MP4 on supports reading from Blu-Ray BD-R discs. If you're going to go for DVD DL media, don't use the ones you find in brick and mortar stores. Most of those are CMC Magnetics or other cheap media that fail half the time. Go online like Amazon.com and look for DataLifePlus series. NOT Life Series. Life Series is CMC. If you want to play this MP4 file, you can't split it across 2 discs. If you're just archiving it, compress it to a ZIP/RAR, etc. with flie splitting options set. Then put one set of the files on one disc and the rest on the second. If you want to play this MP4 file, you'll need a single disc. I suppose you might be able to recreate the MP4 with compression, but the resulting file will probably be unwatchable in terms of how it looks. Oh, plus are you talking about an .MP4 file in this image file or a VIDEO_TS (playable DVD folder) or whatever Blu-Ray's folder is called? If it's a VIDEO_TS you created from an .MP4 file, you could try using DVDShrink to compress the VIDEO_TS to a VIDEO_TS that fits on a single layer recordable DVD. That's its function, after all. However, you will notice a change in the DVD video quality unless you're using an upscaling DVD player that will upscale the disc, like a Playstation 3.

I've had 4 BD-2209's. The last one was the one I told you I sent back to Amazon.com because it didn't write Verbatim BD-R's that the 2nd one was still writing to. It was what made me question Pioneer's quality, that it might be declining. Because my first ones are like 2 years old and still going and the 3rd one needed replacing after like 7 months. The only issues with the BD-2209 are the current firmware being borked with Ritek 8x DVD+RW and the eject button ones. However, the firmware one can be fixed with a tool you can download to force a regression of the firmware to the previous one. And the eject button will eventually eject on the second press. Pioneers are very good readers, too. I had 2 BD-2209's at one point, one for reading and one for writing. It's definitely a better reader than my other BD drive, the LG one I use for writing everything except BD-RE DL.

ASUS did make a pretty good drive, at one time. They made the USB BD drive I still use. I don't think it's available anymore. It passed every single media read and write test I threw at it. So, I had high hopes for an ASUS internal when it came time to try and replace my Pioneer. BAD decision. That ASUS internal BD drive is, as I said, junk, I believe. If you're going for the Pioneer, be sure to test it thoroughly before your chance to return it expires. The last one I got I had to send back to Amazon.com immediately because, out of the box, writing to BD-R was borked on an exact same model, just older, I had of the same Pioneer. So, it's possibly Pioneer drive quality might have gone down. Or it could have just been a random fluke.

Your problem is probably the ASUS BW-12B1ST drive. It's junk, IMO. I had two of these, and the 2nd one went back to Amazon.com. I gave the drive a 2nd chance to see if it was just the one sample I got at first, but it's just junk. It does not write properly to DVD+RW and BD-RE DL media. Attempts to write to DVD+RW always fail and destroy the disc. They cannot be salvaged, even by formatting in a working drive. BD-RE DL worked a little bit better, writing a few times, before also destroying the discs. So, it doesn't write properly to rewritable media, thus I can't see it writing properly to BD-R DL. I would recommend a Pioneer drive. As I said in the other thread you quoted, it's the only drive I've found that works better than other drives. Even the Pioneer has problems. For instance, don't update to the latest firmware if you plan on writing to 8x Ritek DVD+RW. They borked the write strategy so they will always fail Verify, whereas the previous firmware did not. However, the only other issue with Pioneer I had was the eject button. It stops working the first time it's pressed after about 7 months. A 2nd press will work. Even ImgBurn Eject commands may fail the first time if manually executed. They seem to always work after a burn, though. Never understood that. So, Pioneer isn't perfect, but it seems to be the best of what's available out there.

Well, burning more than 1 layer is just problematic to begin with. While if you use the higher quality media, you will definitely have better results than the cheap media DL, it's just an inherent problem when switching layers. I've never burned any BD-R DL, only Verbatim and TDK/Panasonic BD-RE DL, but it seems BD-R DL, even the Verbatims, depends on the drive you're using. For instance, I have two BD drives, a Pioneer and an LG. The LG is absolutely rotten at writing to BD-RE DL. Fails more often than it succeeds and when it does succeed, the data is corrupt on the disc. So, I can't imagine the LG being better at writing BD-R DL. The Pioneer is a different story. I use it exclusively for writing my BD-RE DL media because it's the only drive that writes properly to Verbatim/TDK/Panasonic BD-RE DL. As for BD-R DL, I've seen some increasing posts here that maybe even the quality Verbatim blanks might not be the quality they should be.

I'd echo LUK's statement about trying Verbatim DataLife Plus MKM DVD+R DL. Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-D01-67) Ricoh DVD+R DL is, well, just not very good. I tried 5 of them a few years ago. They all completed burns and Verifies, but 3 of them were unreadable a year later. Verbatim DataLife Plus MKM DVD+R DL is really the only quality DVD+R DL out there. It's not guaranteed to solve your problem, but it's where I'd look into first.

You may have luck with another drive. Like in someone else's PC and copying the files to a flash drive, if their PC drive can read this disc. I have 2 BD drives in my PC, one Pioneer and one LG. I know the LG will fail to read some discs that the Pioneer will read. So, maybe you're not entirely out of luck yet.