Perch Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Hi, Ive created an ISO file using dvd shrink of my video_ts folder files, the preference setting for the dvd target size was set to DVD-9, but when i tried to use ImgBurn to burn the ISO file that was created i get the following message, "Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: None Found! (VTS_05). This image has not been mastered correctly for burning on to a double layer (OTP Track Path) disc. None of the cells meet the DVD-Video specification criteria for a potential layer break position." Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Perch.
cornholio7 Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 you shouldn't have made an iso with shrink, it can't create dvd9 iso's properly if you still have the video_ts folder files , then follow the guides on this forum http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showforum=4 ?
Perch Posted August 12, 2006 Author Posted August 12, 2006 you shouldn't have made an iso with shrink, it can't create dvd9 iso's properlyif you still have the video_ts folder files , then follow the guides on this forum http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showforum=4 ? Thanks for your reply. I checked out the guide you have posted and have a question about selecting the layer break position. When the Create Layer Break Window pops up it shows numerous LBA's with the green stars and under SPLIP it designates them as N/A and No. I see in your guide its recommended to choose one with No, but how do you determine which one to pick. Also how do you pick up your screen shots, this would come in handy for posting of any problems. Thanks Perch
cornholio7 Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 imgburn parses the ifos and determines the choices shown. i tend to choose one in PGC 1 if there are multiple choices, like this one to catch a screen shot hold down Alt and press Prt Scr on the active window , then open paint and press Ctrl-V and save the picture
Perch Posted August 12, 2006 Author Posted August 12, 2006 Thanks again "cornholio7", looks like everything worked great from the information that you provided. One additional question if you have the time, since this is all new to me and I would like to learn more about the additional preferences, settings, file types, and information/meaning of all of the acronyms, could you recommend any web sites. I've been bitten by the video bug and want to learn everything I can. Perch
cornholio7 Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 try http://www.manifest-tech.com/links/dvd_glossary-a-l.htm as for settings , leave them on default for now, take a read of some of the posts here , theres a lot of info packed into them and if you meed to know something specific then just ask
calweycn Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) you shouldn't have made an iso with shrink, it can't create dvd9 iso's properlyif you still have the video_ts folder files , then follow the guides on this forum http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showforum=4 I've been burning DL made with PGC Edit and Shrink without any playback troubles. I calculated the exact position of the layer break and tested it in a Samsung and Daewoo. Both played past the layer break with no pause at all. (...) They should play in all computers also. I have read that at least 67% of players will handle a layer break that is NOT on a cell. I always use seamless layer break, because the layer break pause is too annoying. In regard to that, I've read that 95-99% of players will handle a cell layer break that is flagged as seamless. Proof: Many Criterion DVDs and ALL Superbits use seamless layer breaks. I have never heard of any people having problems playing them back. On the contrary, people note they don't have the typical annoying LB pause. Edited August 13, 2006 by calweycn
calweycn Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=110426 http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=225001 Here are some articles for further reading on seamless layer break DVDs. This will support some of my stats above. In my experience, dual layer DVDs play fine even with ECC block/VOBU boundary LB selection. LUK has acknowledged this too. http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1337 The Official DVD-Video Specification forbids seamless layer breaks and layer breaks within cells. However, players are largely able to tolerate such issues. I have never liked the LB delay in DVDs, so I started looking for ways to get rid of it. Through tests, I found the pause results from cell flags at the LB and cell commands before the LB. Use PGC Edit to change the flags to seamless and remove any command before the LB => seamless playback. When you burn a Dual Layer size ISO made with Shrink, you will probably end up with a NAV Pack layer break, unless you're lucky enough to have a cell on an ECC boundary. In my experience, it will play fine in most machines. Computer drives will not have any trouble with NAV Pack layer breaks. But you must also address the cell flags and commands if you want seamless playback. All Superbit DVDs use seamless layer breaks. A lot of Criterions do too - Naked, Solaris, Fear and Loathing, Bad Timing, Man Who Fell To Earth, Naked Lunch, Videodrome, etc. Seamless LB is the better way to go, but NAV Pack layer breaks are compatible in a large majority of the world's players.
blutach Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 Yes, SLB is something new and great to have. I am fortunate enough to have all my players being happy with it, too. We have jamoskeag3 to thank for kicking off a very stimulating discussion and research at doom9 on this topic. But, as you mentioned, it is against spec and therefore merits a warning in both PgcEdit and ImgBurn. Regards
Unobtainium Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 I have a similar problem to that of the original poster, except that the error message refers to VTS_01 rather than VTS_05. I can't follow Cornholio's suggestion, since I didn't create the image, all I have are the MDS and I0x files. ImgBurn shows trhe following additional information: Imp ID: Sonic Scenarist 3.0 File Sys: ISO9960, UDF (1.02) Sectors: 3,459,555 (MODE1/2048) Size: 7,085,168,540 bytes Time 768:49:30 (MM:SS:FF) Is there a way to make the files burnable, or am I SOL? Thanks in advance, Unobtainium
LIGHTNING UK! Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 You'll need to recreate the image. So extract everything from it and then 'Build' a new one.
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