gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) What is your opinion about these Verbatim DVD-R? are original mitsaubishi? AZO has written in the package what information should I look for the package to see if you mitsubishi azo dye? Edited March 31, 2015 by gamemaniaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 For my opinion, reread my last reply. It contains my entire opinion. As for the package, it has the AZO label on the insert. So, that would seem to mean it uses AZO, but I don't know if CMC made media also uses AZO or not. I don't recall if the store bought ones I had that were CMC had AZO. I don't think they did. If I had to go with my gut, I'd say that since it says AZO, it wouldn't be CMC. But, you won't know for sure until you buy some a sample and check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 the advantages of AZO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I just know that it's a better brand of dye. I've also read that it's an inorganic dye, but I don't know about the validity of that statement. I thought CD and DVD dyes were all organic. That the basic science of the burning process used on CD and DVD recordable media meant that the dyes had to be organic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 AZO dye is inorganic? that's true? I've never seen this statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I saw it from a forum poster once on a different site. So, I doubt it's validity. As I said, as far as the science goes, I don't think the way DVD's are burned can be used with inorganic dyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 AZO dye is organic or inorganic? where did you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't remember where I saw that. Some post about Verbatim DVD-R's is all I remember. Plus, I believe LTH BD-R use AZO and LTH uses organic dyes. LTH recycles DVD production lines to make the BD-R so they're using dyes, which are organic. So, AZO, to me, is organic and not inorganic. Often times what you find in forum posts has to be taken with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 AZO has a durability of how many years? the reflective layer dvd-r verbatim has a durability of how many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't know how long they last and you can't trust how long the manufacturer says they will last. The technology hasn't been around long enough to reach the X years they say they last so you won't know for sure if their estimated lifespans will last that long until that amount of time has actually passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 The packaging of the DVD-R pin has not written Mitsubishi but the ID code of the media is MCC 03RG20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 If the MID is MCC that means Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation. That's the good stuff. If fact, I believe that whole MID you posted is the same as the DVD-R's I used for my LightScribe DVD-R and my inkjet DVD-R. I've been using those for 3 or 4 years now. I've not had a single failed burn that I can remember. The only discs I had to throw away were discs I accidentally burned with incorrect data or discs I thought were wrongly burned for whatever reason. Even if the packaging doesn't say Mitsubishi, it's the MID that matters. The packaging can say anything on it. Mitsubishi puts their MKM label on their BD-RE's, making you think they're the old kind Mitsubishi used to make. CMC, however, actually makes them, from the MID. Verbatim puts their name of the label of the Life series DVD-R's, but they're made by CMC. So, if I were in your position, I'd feel confident in buying those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I can buy these discs? Verbatim Mitsubishi are legitimate? Edited March 31, 2015 by gamemaniaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, the caveat you have to know is that a manufacturer can put anything in the MID that they want to. So, CMC could always put MCC in the field just to sell their junk. It's rare but it has happened before. Fakers put SONY in their MID for their cheaper media to make people think they were quality Sony media, back when Sony made its own media and back when Sony offered SOME quality products. Plus, I've read reports of some people having problems with MCC discs. However, I pin them down to having cheaper manufacturer's drives. Because some drives return no quality issues with CMC yet quality drives can have problems with burning CMC media. However, it's relatively rare to encounter anyone faking MID's anymore. I'd buy something that says MCC. It's all I buy now actually in the realm of DVD-R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) this mid id code of dvd-r verbatim pin I posted is fake? Mitsubishi has not written on the label, only the word azo Edited March 31, 2015 by gamemaniaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I didn't say that. I just said that in the past, fake MID's have appeared. But not in recent years. I'm just trying to say nothing is as certain as you want it to be. Most likely, those MCC's are Mitsubishi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I can trust on the originality of this media? how many years of durability has a dvd-r verbatim azo mitsubishi? Edited March 31, 2015 by gamemaniaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIGHTNING UK! Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 DVD will be a forgotten technology by the time this thread reaches a conclusion. Db, you're a very patient guy to continue to entertain this chap. I can only assume gamemaniaco is winding us up, because *nobody* spends this long debating media and going round in circles asking the same questions over and over again. They grew tired of his antics over at the videohelp forum quite quickly. http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/361664-Questions-Dyes-types-in-DVD-Media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Dvd-r discs verbatim are protected from humidity stored within the Spindle? Edited April 1, 2015 by gamemaniaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamemaniaco Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) What are the differences in quality between DVD-R Verbatim AZO and DVD+R Philips CMC Magnetics? the materials are the same then the two disks have the same durability and resistance? Edited April 4, 2015 by gamemaniaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbminter Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Db, you're a very patient guy to continue to entertain this chap. I can only assume gamemaniaco is winding us up, because *nobody* spends this long debating media and going round in circles asking the same questions over and over again. They grew tired of his antics over at the videohelp forum quite quickly. http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/361664-Questions-Dyes-types-in-DVD-Media Even my patience had its limits. After the last post on March 31st got a reply asking the same questions again, I unsubscribed from this thread. I just came by to see how big it had gotten since then. Looks like gamemaniaco got banned since then, so it didn't get as big as I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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