hunterjwizzard Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 Hi folks, I'm attempting to make backups of some old software disks, but a few of them are giving me grief. Using the windows file manager I can copy the entire contents of the disk to a folder, so I assume the disk is good. But when I fire up ImgBurn to make an ISO, I get: Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10; ASCQ: 0x90) I get the same results one 2 different optical drives. Am I running into some kind of weird copy protection or what?
hunterjwizzard Posted March 31, 2021 Author Posted March 31, 2021 Here ya go: I 10:46:58 Operation Started! I 10:46:58 Source Device: [0:0:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GSA-H11N JG03 (L:) (USB) I 10:46:58 Source Media Type: CD-ROM I 10:46:58 Source Media Supported Read Speeds: 10x, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x I 10:46:58 Source Media Sectors: 244,133 I 10:46:58 Source Media Size: 499,984,384 bytes I 10:46:58 Source Media Volume Identifier: Sims2EP4_1 I 10:46:58 Source Media File System(s): ISO9660, Joliet I 10:46:58 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / 8x I 10:46:58 Destination File: H:\Sims2EP4_1.iso I 10:46:58 Destination Free Space: 2,651,779,571,712 Bytes (2,589,628,488.00 KiB) (2,528,934.07 MiB) (2,469.66 GiB) I 10:46:58 Destination File System: NTFS I 10:46:58 File Splitting: Auto I 10:47:02 Read Speed - Effective: 48x I 10:47:05 Reading Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 244132) I 10:47:05 Reading Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 244132) W 10:47:14 Failed to Read Sectors 896 - 927 - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:47:21 Failed to Read Sector 922 - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:47:21 Retrying (1 of 20)... W 10:47:28 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:47:28 Retrying (2 of 20)... W 10:47:35 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:47:35 Retrying (3 of 20)... W 10:47:42 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:47:42 Retrying (4 of 20)... W 10:47:49 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:47:49 Retrying (5 of 20)... W 10:47:56 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:47:56 Retrying (6 of 20)... W 10:48:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:03 Retrying (7 of 20)... W 10:48:10 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:10 Retrying (8 of 20)... W 10:48:17 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:17 Retrying (9 of 20)... W 10:48:24 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:24 Retrying (10 of 20)... W 10:48:31 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:31 Retrying (11 of 20)... W 10:48:38 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:38 Retrying (12 of 20)... W 10:48:45 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:45 Retrying (13 of 20)... W 10:48:52 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:52 Retrying (14 of 20)... W 10:48:59 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:48:59 Retrying (15 of 20)... W 10:49:06 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:49:06 Retrying (16 of 20)... W 10:49:13 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:49:13 Retrying (17 of 20)... W 10:49:19 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:49:19 Retrying (18 of 20)... W 10:49:26 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:49:26 Retrying (19 of 20)... W 10:49:33 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) W 10:49:33 Retrying (20 of 20)... W 10:49:40 Retry Failed - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) E 10:50:08 Failed to Read Sector 922 - Reason: Unknown (CRC or ECC Error) (ASC: 0x10, ASCQ: 0x90) E 10:50:08 Failed to Read Sectors! I 10:50:09 Exporting Graph Data... I 10:50:09 Graph Data File: C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RW_GSA-H11N_JG03_WEDNESDAY-MARCH-31-2021_10-46_AM_N-A.ibg I 10:50:09 Export Successfully Completed! E 10:50:09 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:03:10 E 10:50:09 Average Read Rate: 9 KiB/s (0.1x) - Maximum Read Rate: 9 KiB/s (0.1x)
dbminter Posted March 31, 2021 Posted March 31, 2021 Given it's a game CD of a popular series, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some kind of protection on it. Yet, if there were, you wouldn't be able to copy over the contents with File/Windows Explorer, I would think. Unless you need the disc to run the game and the software checks for some kind of unreadable sectors as copy protection like the PS1 did.
hunterjwizzard Posted April 1, 2021 Author Posted April 1, 2021 Ah but I ripped a whole stack of PS1/PS2 games without issue. I suspect its some form of copy protection, after proceeding with the process it pretty consistently came up on disk 1 of every 2 disk set. Very frustrating for someone who just wants to make backups of things they own.
dbminter Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Oh, wait, this Sims is a PS1 game disc and not a PC game disc? Then, it's not copy protection. What you're most likely encountering is a hardware incompatibility. There are known issues with ImgBurn attempting to read some PS1 discs in some optical drives. For instance, my Mega Man 8 will not read to an image file with ImgBurn. However, Alcohol 120% will read it. So, try using Alcohol 120%. I believe there's a free version.
hunterjwizzard Posted April 1, 2021 Author Posted April 1, 2021 No, its a Sims 2 PC disk. I was saying I also ripped a ton of PS1 games using ImgBurn earlier and never had an issue. I had encountered a similar problem with CDBurn XP, but I'll give a whirl at Alcohol 120%. Thanks!
dbminter Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Alcohol probably won't help in this case. I was thinking it was a PS1 Sims game CD, which that would matter. I said it may be copy protection because, at first, I thought it was a Sims PC game disc, which it is. And The Sims is a very popular series, which could mean they copy protected it. But, why you'd be able to copy the contents with File/Windows Explorer if it was protected doesn't make sense, though. Unless you need the original physical disc to start the game each time. I think there used to be something called Game Jackal that was designed to copy copy protected PC game discs.
hunterjwizzard Posted April 2, 2021 Author Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) Yeah, Alcohol hasn't helped. Tons of errors. Its gotta be copy protection, I can't believe the disk 1 for half a dozen PC games has gone bad. I'll take a look at game jackal. EDIT: that doesn't seem to be for ripping disks. Its basically an auto-no-CD system, which I'm sure has it's uses, but is not terribly helpful for my long-term archival project. Edited April 2, 2021 by hunterjwizzard
dbminter Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 I wasn't entirely sure. Then, it's either Daemon Tools or AnyDVD (Despite its name, I thought it had a copy protected CD reading feature, but that may be for audio CD's,. if such things existed.) that had a feature that could read protected game CD's. Or maybe CloneCD instead of Game Jackal.
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