jmet Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 What ever burn speed I select, ImgBurn will write 2 speeds below it. Ex: When I select "8X" burn speed,this is what I get: " I 18:30:51 Average Write Rate: 5,548 KB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,662 KB/s (6.3x)". These are the blank disc's I am using: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,295,104 Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: MCC-004-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0
chewy Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) I just burned a disk to duplicate, a 4.4g iso, same media, same drive/firmware, same 8x log says avg (6.1) max (8.3) was your iso a lot smaller? Edited February 7, 2006 by chewy
chewy Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) roll back the ide driver to the default xp sp2 one I have the deluxe model of that asus mobo and the driver from asus is old and buggy. Some of my 12 x burns took 15 minutes??? Course I had a bad sil 3112 driver on top of that. Edited February 7, 2006 by chewy
jmet Posted February 7, 2006 Author Posted February 7, 2006 The 3520 is in my closet. It was in my second PC but, that PC blew up. So I took out everything that was salvageable and chunked the rest in the trash. I'll try to roll back the drivers chewy.
lfcrule1972 Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 I have to say that I have burnt a lot of discs recently both for viewing and as part of the tests and I haven't seen the burn speed problem jmet.
chewy Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 case in point! everything else failed! course poor guy could figure out how to update driver http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=61478
jmet Posted February 7, 2006 Author Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) I watched it today while I was burning. It gets to 4.1X by 4%. From there it reaches 6.2X at %35, then goes back down to 4.1X around %40 and stays there until it is finished. Even though I selected 8X speed. Here is the log: I 15:38:30 ImgBurn Version 1.1.0.0 started! I 15:38:30 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 15:38:30 Initialising SPTI... I 15:38:30 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 15:38:30 Found 2 DVD?RWs! I 15:39:08 Operation Started! I 15:39:08 Source File: D:\ICE_AGE_DS1.ISO I 15:39:08 Source File Sectors: 1,620,085 (MODE1/2048) I 15:39:08 Source File Size: 3,317,934,080 bytes I 15:39:08 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink I 15:39:08 Destination Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 (N:) (ATA) I 15:39:08 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 15:39:08 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 15:39:08 Write Mode: DVD I 15:39:08 Write Type: DAO I 15:39:08 Write Speed: 8x I 15:39:08 Link Size: Auto I 15:39:08 Test Mode: No I 15:39:08 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 15:39:08 Filling Buffer... I 15:39:09 Writing LeadIn... I 15:39:31 Writing Image... I 15:49:14 Synchronising Cache... I 15:49:15 Closing Track... I 15:49:27 Finalising Disc... I 15:49:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:35 I 15:49:44 Average Write Rate: 5,567 KB/s (4.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,640 KB/s (6.2x) Edited February 7, 2006 by jmet
jmet Posted February 7, 2006 Author Posted February 7, 2006 16X works great! I 15:55:08 ImgBurn Version 1.1.0.0 started! I 15:55:08 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 15:55:08 Initialising SPTI... I 15:55:08 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 15:55:08 Found 2 DVD?RWs! I 15:55:38 Operation Started! I 15:55:38 Source File: D:\DOWN_IN_FRAGGLE_ROCK.ISO I 15:55:38 Source File Sectors: 2,285,876 (MODE1/2048) I 15:55:38 Source File Size: 4,681,474,048 bytes I 15:55:38 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink I 15:55:38 Destination Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 (N:) (ATA) I 15:55:38 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 15:55:38 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 15:55:38 Write Mode: DVD I 15:55:38 Write Type: DAO I 15:55:38 Write Speed: MAX I 15:55:38 Link Size: Auto I 15:55:38 Test Mode: No I 15:55:38 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 15:55:38 Filling Buffer... I 15:55:39 Writing LeadIn... I 15:56:01 Writing Image... I 16:01:09 Synchronising Cache... I 16:01:10 Closing Track... I 16:01:24 Finalising Disc... I 16:01:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:05 I 16:01:44 Average Write Rate: 14,891 KB/s (10.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 22,136 KB/s (16.0x) I 16:01:44 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 16:02:00 Operation Started! I 16:02:00 Source Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 (N:) (ATA) I 16:02:00 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 16:02:00 Image File: D:\DOWN_IN_FRAGGLE_ROCK.ISO I 16:02:00 Image File Sectors: 2,285,876 (MODE1/2048) I 16:02:00 Image File Size: 4,681,474,048 bytes I 16:02:00 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink I 16:02:00 Verifying Sectors... I 16:07:02 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:02 I 16:07:02 Average Verify Rate: 15,138 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,071 KB/s (15.9x)
chewy Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) time for a clean install, load windows xp sp2 and then go into device manager and only deal with yellow exclaimation marks That's what I did! there is one other option, disconnect the slave and reflash as standalone master in safe mode try option 2 first, it's easier! Edited February 8, 2006 by chewy
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Maybe WOPC is kicking it back down? I guess that would mean the firmware isn't so good for doing 8x burns on that media - or rather 6x if that's were it's dropping back down. Look at the write speed graph via dvdinfopro. You can even post it up here so we can take a look too
jmet Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) Well, this is wierd. It started out the same as before. Although, it took until like %40 percent before it would go past 4.1X but, it got all the way up 8.4X by the end. I 18:52:27 ImgBurn Version 1.1.0.0 started! I 18:52:27 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2) I 18:52:27 Initialising SPTI... I 18:52:27 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:52:27 Found 2 DVD?RWs! I 18:55:14 Operation Started! I 18:55:14 Source File: D:\TWO_FOR_THE_MONEY.ISO I 18:55:14 Source File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048) I 18:55:14 Source File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes I 18:55:14 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink I 18:55:14 Destination Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 (N:) (ATA) I 18:55:14 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 18:55:14 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 18:55:14 Write Mode: DVD I 18:55:14 Write Type: DAO I 18:55:14 Write Speed: 8x I 18:55:14 Link Size: Auto I 18:55:14 Test Mode: No I 18:55:14 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:55:14 Filling Buffer... I 18:55:15 Writing LeadIn... I 18:55:36 Writing Image... I 19:04:48 Synchronising Cache... I 19:04:49 Closing Track... I 19:05:01 Finalising Disc... I 19:05:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:10:00 I 19:05:15 Average Write Rate: 8,282 KB/s (6.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 11,684 KB/s (8.4x) I 19:05:15 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 19:05:30 Operation Started! I 19:05:30 Source Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 (N:) (ATA) I 19:05:30 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 19:05:30 Image File: D:\TWO_FOR_THE_MONEY.ISO I 19:05:30 Image File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048) I 19:05:30 Image File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes I 19:05:30 Image File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink I 19:05:30 Verifying Sectors... I 19:10:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:05 I 19:10:36 Average Verify Rate: 14,989 KB/s (10.8x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 21,415 KB/s (15.5x) Edited February 8, 2006 by jmet
lfcrule1972 Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 Is that hacked firmware jmet ? I just wondered if your results are more consistent with the stock NEC firmware ?
jmet Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A 1.W8 Is that hacked firmware jmet ? I just wondered if your results are more consistent with the stock NEC firmware ? Yea it is.........I get all my NEC firmware from here: http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/ (I re-installed the same firmware again, and I installed the NEC 3520 in this PC. I will try later on testing them. Right now I am installing all the software for my PC, as I just got done reformatting.) Edited February 8, 2006 by jmet
lfcrule1972 Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Ok fair enough..... There was me thinking you were hiding that pic of you in Amber's Xmas present...........
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Looking at that graph, I'd have to guess the 2GB mark is where it would have stepped back down to 4x again (from 6x). There is more WOPC activity there. If / when it steps back again, repost the graph
jmet Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 Thanks for the reply LUK! Excuse my ignorance here but, what is "WOPC"? It is how we learn after all.
LIGHTNING UK! Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Walking optimal power calibration - something like that anyway - depends on where you read it! It just basically means the drive checks the burn quality as it writes - and if found to be substandard, it'll reduce the burn speed.
chewy Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 what's puzzling me was you got those verbs a while back and you have had that firmware for a while too?
jmet Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 what's puzzling me was you got those verbs a while back and you havehad that firmware for a while too? Yep
chewy Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) was this the computer with the bad stick of ram?(grasping at straws) LOL Edited February 8, 2006 by chewy
jmet Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 (edited) This computer intially had 1 stick of Corsair 512MB of RAM. I bought another stick of that same RAM for my second PC (which I no longer have). I ended up giving that stick to my mother cause she only had a 128MB stick in her Dell. My brothers Compaq PC crashed on him so I robbed a 512MB stick from it. I then put the 512MB Compaq and the Dell 128MB stick along with my Corsiar 512MB stick. I learned the hard way not to mix RAM. It won't happen again. lol Edited February 8, 2006 by jmet
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