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Ah, you replied while I was typing. I've been using ConvertXToDVD for over 5 years now. It suits my needs fine. Of course, I don't need anything fancy for what I convert. It's mostly to convert PAL to NTSC for my TV format.
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It's most likely the conversion software. Plus, it could be a random fluke with that one conversion. I use ConvertXToDVD and one time I got a conversion exactly like you described. I had no navigation icons on the screen. However, when I converted the exact same project again, it went away. How many times have you tried converting this same project? You might want to try converting again and writing to an RW to test on the player.
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The bottom line, I'm pretty sure, is they won't help you because the only way to fix the issue is, probably, replace the laser in the 103 with one that supports that MID. However, it's possible a firmware update for the player might help. Generally doesn't, but it's not outside the scope of possibility. Maybe OPPO support can direct you to a newer firmware.
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It also depends on personal preference. It's flagging OpenCandy, apparently, which phones home to a server for targeted advertising on installation, offering you other applications you may or may not, usually not, want to install. If you're really worried, just turn off your modem connection before running the ImgBurn installer. The installer will pause momentarily because OpenCandy can't contact its server, but it will eventually close off and continue running the ImgBurn installer unimpeded.
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Which is the newer player? The 93 or the 103? If I had to guess, 103 is a larger number, so it would seem the 103 is the newer player, but that's not always the case. If the 93 is the newer player, that might explain why it has no problem with both MID's. The laser was probably made after the introduction of both MID's and thus it would have a higher compatibility rate. The bottom line is, most likely, the 103 just doesn't like the IMf MID's and won't play them. Most likely, your only solution is to replace the 103 or just use the 93 exclusively.
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One thing you might want to try. Since it seems that sometimes you can get this drive to recognize the empty discs, you might want to simply try to power off the PC each time you get a disc to be recognized. Then powering back on might cycle the problem out. However, given what has been said so far, I'd say you need to focus on cleaning or replacing the drive. I've never had any luck with cleaning drives, so you most likely will need to replace the drive. All cases I've ever seen where weird read or write issues popped up required replacing the drive. Plus, it's been my experience most drives need replacing after 9 to 12 months of use.
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Since the MID's are different, the most logical culprit is the different MID's, and thus different discs. I don't have any experience burning DL BD-R, just BD-RE DL. So, I couldn't say beyond I'd try seeing if you can get the IMd's versus the IMf's. Or you could try an entirely different burner. However, since you have 2 different oppo players and one plays the discs but the other doesn't, it's probably not the burner. It's most likely your 103 doesn't like IMf discs. I've seen it on the PS3 where Verbatim BD-R plays fine but Ritek Memorex BD-R doesn't. And I've also seen discs with the same MID not work in the same burner. One Verbatim DVD+R DL was inkjet printable and one was branded, but both had the same MID. The inkjet discs would always fail on Verify at the 2nd layer until a firmware update of the Pioneer drive fixed the issue. The branded discs worked fine out of the box for the burner. The MID's were exactly the same but the discs in terms of manufacturing were not the same discs.
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Inferring that ImgBurn actually detects the discs being loaded, you check the MID/DID of blank discs by inserting one and opening ImgBurn in Write mode. In the pane of information on the right, under Disc Information will be the MID/DID. For discs that are completely burned, do the same thing in Read mode.
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Oh, I take it the drive is a PATA? Since you're on Windows XP, your hardware might be that old. I think the last PATA drive I had where I had to worry about Master/Slave/Select pins was like 2006. I recently found some PATA cables I still had unopened. I got them years ago to have on hand for replacements. Turns out they replaced PATA with SATA before I ever needed those cables! So, that was a waste of money.
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Are the Disc ID's the same for the Verbatim 8x DVD+R DL ImgBurn detects for reading and the blank Verbatim 8x DVD+R DL that it can't? Well, that's kind of a stupid question to ask unless you have another DVD drive that can detect this disc for writing. If you do, try and see if the Disc ID's are the same.
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The Verify portion should be immediately after the log you copied and pasted if you have Verify automatically set to run after a burn. So, it should be there if it was performed. Barring that, you could run a manual Verify. It won't compare against the image file, unless you still have the image file, I guess. It will just perform a Read attempt operation. If you still have the disc, of course. You could try either a Verify or a Read operation. Then copy and paste the log from the log window of the new attempt to Verify or Read. That should give a better view of maybe why it's failing and what to do. If you don't have the DVD+R DL anymore, of course, it's moot.
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My Blu-Ray player is a PS3 that was given to me as a replacement for my malfunctioning one by Sony in January of 2012 or 2013, I forget which year. Most likely 2013. Since Sony pretty much forced Cinvavia into the Blu-Ray specs, it's probably enabled in my player. If not when they sent it to me, then enabled later by a future PS3 firmware update.
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I/O error with different programs - why and help please :)
dbminter replied to fernicus's topic in ImgBurn Support
TDK is normally good for the DVD+R DL's I tried. I tried a few and they burned fine and were still readable years later. IF TDK actually made them, that is. With TDK in the Disc ID. I know they make Verbatims inkjet BD-RE DL which I've been using for years without issue. Last I checked, Sony stopped making their higher quality DVD-R and switched to second rate Ritek. The Riteks I used were fine, but Sony now makes junk. Their BD-R wouldn't even complete a burn. If Sony uses Ritek to make DVD+R DL, don't use them. I tried 5 Ritek DVD+R DL's years ago and only 2 of them were still readable a few years after burning. I've never used Sony DVD+R DL so I can't say what they use, Ritek or CMC. With DVD+R DL, the only really reliable manufacturer is Verbatim MKM. Although, as I said, I had no issues with TDK DVD+R DL. Try Amazon.ca. I get my DataLife Plus Verbatim medium from Amazon.com exclusively. These should be what you're looking for: https://www.amazon.ca/Verbatim-DataLifePlus-Printable-Spindle-98319/dp/B00DT6OWFG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479487019&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=verbatim+datalife+plus+dvd%2Br+dl However, before you burn one, put one in a drive and check the Disc ID in the ImgBurn pane in Write mode. Make sure it says MKM and not something else. You should then be able to return them if they're cheap discs since you haven't burned any yet. -
Like LUK said, the underburning "warning" you got was just to let you know the user accepted the fact that you could burn that image to a single layer disc instead of a double layer disc and chose to burn to a double layer disc. Your image file is, in fact, about half the size of just a single layer disc. And this was the disc that failed to Verfiy? Can you find the part of the log where the Verify failed?
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Do you mean DVD+R DL? Or DVD-R DL? You can retrieve the log if it hasn't been deleted. In ImgBurn, open Help and choose ImgBurn Logs. The folder containing the ImgBurn.log file will open where you can open the .LOG file for viewing in a text editor. Just go through the log until you find the failed burn/verify. Then just copy and paste the relevant information. If you did nothing in ImgBurn since you burned that disc/verified it, then the first item in the log will be the failed burn. Until I see a log, just going by what has already been said, I can guess it's probably a DVD+R DL. Even if it's a DVD-R DL, it should still be the same, since you probably bought these discs in a brick and mortar store? Verbatims in brick and mortar stores, or their Life series bought online, are made by CMC Magnetics, the bottom of the barrel optical disc manufacturer. They're responsible for about half of the errors we see on this board. Given you said it failed during a Verify, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a CMC. Or some other cheap disc manufacturer. The only good Verbatim DVD+R DL's are the MKM brand from the DataLife Plus series (NOT the Life series.) that you can only find in online stores. With a log, I could see the Disc ID field to see if it's CMC or some other less reputable manufacturer.
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I/O error with different programs - why and help please :)
dbminter replied to fernicus's topic in ImgBurn Support
And don't try double layer DVD's you find in brick and mortar stores. They will be CMC Magnetics or other cheap discs. To get the good Verbatim MKM discs that were recommended earlier, you will need to order the Verbatim DataLife Plus series from an online store. -
You may have some luck with, after you burn 1 disc, shutting down Windows, powering off, and leaving it powered off for a minute. Then, restart. This will cycle the power to the drive. In fact, doing it just once may solve the issue all together. Sometimes a simple power cycle will fix odd issues like this.
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Not without a log. Please post the log. Just going by what you've said, is it a BD-R you burned? It is "normal" sometimes for blank spaces to appear in rings on burns of BD-R's I've seen. However, I/O errors in Verify are not. I guess the Verify didn't complete, then, at 25%?
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I guess this only applies if you're trying to play content on a PC? Meaning if you burned a physical disc without using option 2, would Cinavia play any part on a standalone Blu-Ray player like a PS3? Would it be silent on a standalone Blu-Ray player?
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I replaced my 7 month old Pioneer Blu-Ray burner last week because it stopped writing to the same BD-R's it had written to for the past 7 months. Burns were crapping out randomly during the Write phase. The same discs in 2 other Pioneers of the same model burn these BD-R's fine. The replacement drive burned 2 discs with failures. The only difference in the drives is the age. The first Pioneer is almost 2 years old and still going. The other is a 9 month old I use for reads only. Same firmware, same BD-R's as before, same cake stack of discs, yet the replacement drive doesn't write them correctly. The 3rd Pioneer I had, using as a writer, needed replacing after 7 months. My first Pioneer of the same model is still going, except for a fundamental design flaw where the Eject function stops working the first time it's issued, randomly. So, I think Pioneer Blu-Ray burners have gone to I will only get one now because LG's are rotten readers and use it for reading. ASUS is out of the question because their internal model Blu-Ray burner destroys rewritable DVD+RW and BD-RE DL.
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That I did not know. I just guessed it was some kind of structural copy protection. But, it makes sense. Supposedly, doesn't AnyDVD have some kind of Cinavia thing where AnyDVD must be loaded in order to play the copy? That would be, like you say, something like what you describe, versus a copy protection.
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I/O error with different programs - why and help please :)
dbminter replied to fernicus's topic in ImgBurn Support
Yeah, Princo is definitely not going to help. However, the issue here, as was pointed out, was the attempt to overburn. The disc image is too large for a DVD-R. Your image may barely fit on a DVD+R DL/DVD-R DL. Your image is almost twice as large as the disc you're attempting to burn to. Overburns often fail, anyway, and will definitely fail in this case. -
Burning will almost always fail before reading ever will fail. And when burning fails, you'll often find that every other kind of media burns fine EXCEPT one. Usually DVD+R DL. My most recent drive replacement, last week, was because it wrote everything else fine but failed on BD-R. So, just because reading works, that's no indication the drive hasn't failed writing.
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Well, those Verbatims could have been CMC, as Verbatim does farm out to CMC for its Life series. Memorex also uses CMC for its DVD-R. So, it's kind of hard to say. The only thing you can say for sure is if you know you used Verbatims from CMC before and they worked, then your drive probably needs replacing if they were working before and then just suddenly stopped.
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Looks like both failed burns were to CMC Magnetics media. I 15:05:57 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: CMC MAG. AM3) Try something other than CMC. CMC is the bottom of the barrel disc manufacturer. They are responsible for about half of the errors we see on this board. Most people find their problems disappear if they switch away from cheaper media. Unless you have had success with CMC's before. Check the log for the last successful burn and see what the Disc ID was for it. If it was the same, CMC MAG. AM3, then your drive has probably given up the ghost and needs replacing. If your last successful burn was to something other than CMC, that's probably why it succeeded. Your Read log shows a TYG media was the successful burn for that read. TYG is Taiyo Yuden. Back when Taiyo Yuden was making media, they were the 2nd best manufacturer of optical media out there. So, it's no surprise if this TYG03 burn was successful and read was the other DVD you burned, then that just points more fingers of blame to the CMC media.