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I couldn't find any CD-R's from Verbatim that were marked Datalife Plus like the DVD recordable media I had purchased. As for losing credibility, companies don't really care. The bottom line is the dollar/pound. If they can successfully sell a cheaper cost product at a profitable price, they'll do it in a heartbeat. As for me, I will only purchase Verbatim DVD-R and DVD+R DL as long as its Datalife Plus with MID's of MKM or MCC. Should Verbatim change manufacturers with those, then, all Verbatim media will go on my shit list. I did the same to Optodisc when they switched to CMC and I'll do it at the drop of a hat for Verbatim, too, if they do that.

I purchased some Taiyo Yuden media for the first time. 100 cake stack of CD-R's. Imgburn returns the Manufacturer field as Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Co. The shrink wrap label on the cake stack has the JVC label, since JVC recently bought up Taiyo Yuden. It also says Victor Advanced Media Co. Ltd. joint venture of Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd. and Victor Company of Japan Limited. The label also has Made In Japan on it, along with Part #: J-CDR-WPY-SB, UPC code 0 46838 04098 6, and for Professional Use on it. My question is are these good Taiyo Yuden CD-R's? As I said, I've never had Taiyo Yuden before and I got burned last time buying CD-R's when the Verbatims I got were made by CMC Magnetcs. Thanks!

I was confused by the line that says Manufacturer. I just inferred it was an MID like was present on DVD recordable media. But, what do I know, especially about CD's?

Well, I'm adding Verbtaim CD-R's to my don't buy list. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to get a decent product. It's not like I purposefully purchased Memorex. I don't know about these Pastel Disc ones. Do they even sell them here in the US? I did a search on Amazon.com for Verbatim CD-R and pastel and there were no pastel hits in the returned results. I've already gone ahead and ordered some Taiyo Yuden CD-R's. Is there an MID for those I should look for or one to avoid?

Yeah, I decided to make my next order Taiyo Yudens. This was my first time trying Verbatim CD-R's. I just thought since they used good quality dyes on their DataLife Plus DVD-R's, that they'd be a good go for my CD-R needs, too. Well, Verbatim CD-R's are now on my shit list.

I ordered some Verbatim CD-R's. When I got them, I put in one in my optical drives to check the Manufacturer ID. It was CMC Magnetics Corporation! First, years ago, Optodisc betrayed me by switching to CMC for their useless DVD-R's and now Verbatim has dipped into the poisoned pool of CMC media.

Because I'm quite, quite anal. Actually, it's because the bump annoys me. When the manufacturers make the layer break on a DVD, they make it where it will be less noticeable. So, usually not during dialog or music. I first noticed it in The Bride Of Frankenstein at a moment where some of that movie's wonderful musical score is playing when the monster enters the castle just before he's given a drink by Dr. Proetorius. I knew then I had to reburn most of them or I could never live with myself. The episodic discs didn't need reburning because the layer breaks usually occurred before the start of an episode. The sad thing about Memorex is at one time they used to make a quality product. I still have CD-RW's from Memorex that still work today, even now 10 years later. And they appear to make DVD+R discs with a high quality manufacturer. But, the rest of the stuff is junk. DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD+R DL. The industry screwed me over royally once. Back when Optodisc made a quality product, they were my DVD-R of choice. Then, they switched to CMC Magnetics. However, this was before I learned about CMC from the forums. So, I was thinking it was my stand alone DVD recorder, so, I replaced it for $500. Then, I thought it was the DVD PC burner, so, I replaced it for $200. This was after I'd spent like $400 on 2 100 disc cake stacks. #39;( Depends on where you're from. I get my media from either Amazon.com or NewEgg in the United States.

The seamless option can only be a problem with DVD players that don't support seamless layer breaks. So, there's very little chance your particular player will be affected by checking the option as the problem would mostly only be with older DVD players that don't support seamless layer breaks. The seamless option won't affect burn performance, though. Basically, Verbatims are still the best DL's to go with. I avoid Memorex products across the board because of how cheaply made they usually are. The Manufacturer ID is usually CMC Magnetics, which is bottom of the barrel media. And, yes, the bump in the video and audio you're experiencing is the layer break without the seamless option checked. I had to reburn about 100 discs because I forgot to set the seamless layer break option on them. #39;(

Even if you have gotten Memorex DVD+R DL's to burn in the past, I would recommend you check the Manufacturer ID on them. If it says CMC, avoid using those. If you're getting LBA errors on the Verbatims, then, it may be your drive needs replacing. My experience has been my burners need replacing about every 2 years. But, I work my drives to death, pretty much. I also get mine from NewEgg.

I did try that, yes. I swapped the connections for the two optical drives connection to the mobo. It just swapped around which drive wouldn't boot. First it was one, then the other after the swap.

Actually, one thing you may have mentioned that I didn't try was disconnecting ALL the SATA cables. I only tried the two leading to the optical drives. The two for the 2 HD's were never swapped, like they appear to have been by the tech.

So, basically, each song is its own separate track? That makes sense, if that's the case given that I believe the software does say analyzing track and verifying track for each "song." Actually, I think I do have a 1 track CD. It's of a 1950's radio program of Donovan's Brain with no separate "songs" breaking it up. It's one long track.

Well, I'm no expert on audio CD's!

Now that I think about it, I believe I did reset the BIOS options to the factory default at one point to test that. I remember it required one of the function keys to do it, so, I must have done it.

I knew it could read CD's. I just didn't know most Audio CD's are almost always multi-track or multi-session.

Actually, I had tried those things. Had to back over the exact posts and check. Except for the BIOS settings, which I didn't see anything change and it all looked like it was kosher to me.

I did discover a little about what "reconfigured SATA cables" means. My Drive 1 has become Drive 2 in Windows and my Drive 2 is now Drive 1. Which means the SATA cables were rearranged in terms of the connections to the mobo.

I noticed the multi-track disk thing listed in your post. I may be wrong, but, has ImgBurn ever supported mult-track reading? I think at one time it didn't and I don't know if it does now. I'm real helpful aren't I?

Well, got my computer fixed. Cost another $50. I asked what they did to get it working and all they said was they changed a BIOS configuration and "reconfigured the SATA cables," whatever that last part means. I asked for clarification on what exactly was done, but, the technician who did the work wasn't in to elaborate. I put it in the shop Friday and got it back Monday, after the store was only open for about 3 hours. So, that's how little time and work it apparently took fix it. Whatever the BIOS configuration change was I've no idea as I went over my BIOS options and discovered nothing amiss. Oh, well, as long as it works now. And, I tested it, which it does.

Well, swapping the SATA cables didn't actually totally solve my one ImgBurn problem. It happens with Getting Disc Capacity. I read in 4 CD's in a row on this drive before it locked up again trying to get a disc capacity, forcing a reboot.

I don't know how old it is, actually. But, the product specification revision history says the first release of it is dated December 2008. As for my not having ever heard of it, it's probably there. I only just recently learned of USB 3.0 and it was first demonstrated back in September 2007. I doubt a setting for AHCI versus SATA would be the problem as before I got the CMOS checksum error, my drives were booting fine.

It's not RAID. I have to admit, I've never heard of AHCI.

Yes. In fact, back in March when I first got the CMOS checksum error back in March, I had just updated to the most recent BIOS. I even ran the BIOS update again to see if that might clear up. It didn't. I think my only option now is to take the machine into the shop again like I did back in March. I think I'll do that next month when the monies roll over.

Well, I replaced the SATA cable. Got 1 good boot and then lock up on next attempt to reboot out of 5 and then reboot after that failed reboot didn't start Windows. So, something is wrong beyond my understanding and fixing. I've done everything I can think of short of a tech working on my machine. So, I'll have to take my machine in sometime when I have the cash to do so. Until then, I've swapped around the data cables so the top drive boots and the bottom drive doesn't. It still apparently reads and writes CD's and DVD's, as I tested those with rewritables and one DVD-R. The problem only occurs when both drives are connected. When only one is, it boots. Either drive. If only one of them is connected. Then, there's the CMOS checksum error that results from the failed boots. I can't fix that.

Well, it MUST be the SATA cable or the mobo connection. I inserted the new drive and it booted once and then started locking up on subsequent attempts to boot from it. So, for now, I'm just saying fuck it. I'm returning the copy of the drive, if I can, I've reinserted the drive I thought had a problem, and simply swapped the top SATA drive cable with the bottom one, since I only boot from the top drive. My first optical drive in any system I've ever owned that had one and had more than one drive was to make the top drive a read only drive, regardless if it can write or not. So, since I'll only ever boot from the top drive, I just swapped the cables around. This enabled me to reboot and boot from the bootable media 5 times in a row, my test for this "problem." Also, swapping the cables fixed my problem I had with ImgBurn reading in more than 1 CD in a row.