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I'm having trouble trying to figure out how to create an image from a DVD.

keep an eye on the sensor part and you are on the wrong side of the equator for this time of year to really crank it up, an ambient drop of 5C can give you a 10-15C lower idle or load temp try to fix the command rate, you were at way to go, the new bios settings are a little hard to get used to to test settings, besides for bsod's, I used a program to create a folder of 7-8 gigs on one hard drive then I would transcode to another hard drive with full speed settings(70% compression), then time! I almost broke 9 minutes.

Needing more storage space I went and bought one of these beasties about 2 months ago thinking it would suit my needs perfectly. Ongoing, unsolved problems plague this unit to this day and I thought I'd have a quick rant warning anyone wanting to purchase what has become known affectionately as "The Toaster" in the Netgear support forums. Anyone wanting to see what the hell I'm talking about can see the unit itself here: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/SC101.php From the site above you can read about how great it is. Below are some of the things causing me (and many hundreds of others), pure grief. 1. Runs incredibly hot. I mean really hot. Hot enough to fry an egg. There's no fans and the attached heatsinks are useless. The latest firmware solves this problem by putting the drives to sleep (allowing them to cool down), but this presents another problem as outlined below. 2. Often the drives refuse to wake up. This causes 2 more problems. a.) All applications such as Windows Explorer, Turbo Navigator (file managers) hang because the drive has dissapeared. The only ways to get around this are to unplug the power from the drive and plug it back in. After a casual 2 minutes or so the drive re-appears. Or you have to reboot. b.) The unit uses a DHCP server to get an IP address (available on almost any router). If the drives go to sleep the unit can "drop off" the network. It then proceeds to blast my lan looking for a DHCP server. Not only does it create enough network traffic to bring my gigabit lan to its knees, my router and firewalls on all machines report an attack on the network which my router then faithfully alerts me to via an email. I'd love my ISP to ask me why I sent 8,000 emails to myself. 3. To stop the unit falling asleep (dropping off my network and then blasting it), I run a cron utility on one machine to copy a single file (the same file every time), onto the unit every 5 minutes. This usually works but it creates a problem. Obviously, if the drives are being contiually written to then are aren't being allowed to sleep which brings us back to point 1 (running bloody hot). 4. Crap network speed. I've had to install 2 network cards in one PC because one of them will only transfer files at around 300~800 kb (kilobits) a second but this card will go at 35MB/sec over the lan. The other card (also gigabit) transfers files to the Netgear at 5~7MB/sec but only 10MB/sec over the lan. Go figure. 5. Once setting the drive letter (drive S: for example) with the Disk Management Service, the drive can appear as a different drive letter after reboot. 6. Mirrored drives can just "dissapear". You can rebuild them but you can't recover them. 7. Custom file system. If the unit dies, there's no way to recover the data. 8. The Netgear support site isn't run by netgear. No chance of any help there. What a piece of crap and waste of money. I'll be pulling the drives out of it tomorrow (2 x 400gig Barracudas) and putting them into a PC and throwing the Netgear in the bin.

Nothing can! The MDS file shouldn't really contain the file path data anyway... please say DVD Dec didn't do that! Oh, you can of course FORCE it (or ImgBurn) to add path data (within the 'Create DVD MDS File' bit), but that's a different story.

Hello again I did a fresh install and changed IDE cables, 1.1.0.0 worked fine two times I will do more burnings on monday, and try to switch to Microsoft's CDImage to create my ISO files which seems to be more reliable One more time, thank you !

Well I'm the only one who'd know the answer Going back to your questions.... ImgBurn doesn't create ISO files. It can't read anything. If another program was used that creates proper MDS files, yes the layerbreak position will be retained. If you reauthor a disc and it's done by a program that's not layerbreak aware (i.e. DVDShrink), you'll be lucky if the ISO it creates will be compliant for DL burning. The odds of it just happening to start a new cell on a LBA that's a multiple of 16 are pretty slim. ImgBurn cannot move the files within the ISO so if they're not right in the first place, you're stuck. In such situations, you're better off writing a video_ts folder and using PgcEdit to create the image. PgcEdit will ensure the image DOES have a cell that can be flagged as the layerbreak one and it WILL start on a sector (LBA) that's a multiple of 16.

>> If the selected position didn't have the flag set, ImgBurn sets it. >>Burning then continues. >> Of course none of that needs to happen if the user is burning from an MDS file where the layerbreak info is already contained within it. By the last statement, I assume you mean that IMGBURN was used to create an ISO file of the original DVD and therefore, has a MDS file with the specifics of what was just created, and then a duplicate could be pproperly copied onto a DL media. What about a scenario where a program like DVDSHRINK were used to strip out subtitles and audio files and maybe a few titles being reworked. The output size would still be over one layer. This would essentially change the sector positioning as it was from the original DVD. Then, DVDSHRINK would strip the original LB flag. In that case, can I use IMGBURN to add a new LB and properly burn the image. NOTE: Based on your reply I would say YES, but I would love a confirmation or please point out any errors in my thinking. Incidentally, you're the only one on planet earth who even responed to my questions. Thanks for that. Gary

As ImgBurn doesn't (yet) create images from files, it's not really its job to make/set/align the layerbreak position. The thing people generally assume to mean 'layerbreak' is just a flag in one (or more if their LBA is the same) of the cells mentioned in the IFO. There is nothing in the vob to signal where it is. ImgBurn will parse the filesystem and look for vob files that lay with the acceptable LBA range. ie. the middle LBA of the file (minimum) and the original layerbreak on the media (before it's changed - that's the maximum). If it finds a vob between these points, it will read its associated IFO file. It then looks through all the PGCs within those IFO files to see if any of the cells are already marked with the 'I'm a layerbreak' flag. If it finds one, it add it to the list of potential layerbreak positions. If it scans all the cells and none are marked with the flag, it checks them again to see if they start on an LBA thats a multiple of 16. These then become a potential position for the layerbreak and are added to the list. Once that's all done, the list will hopefully contain a few potential positions. If it doesn't, the user is warned of the dangers of burning the disc. If it's not empty, the list is displayed to the user in a dialog box (if there is more than 1 option). They can then choose which one they want to use. If the selected position didn't have the flag set, ImgBurn sets it. Burning then continues. Of course none of that needs to happen if the user is burning from an MDS file where the layerbreak info is already contained within it.

If i open a particular *.BIN file with imgburn (Its an image to create a ps2 firmware boot disk), ImgBurn tells me that it is Sectors: 16129 Mode 2 / Form 1 / 2352 Which according to the help file with the firmware is correct (they use nero in there example) However if i use Magic ISO to convert the BIN to an ISO and then use ImgBurn to open it i get Sectors: 16129 Mode 1 / 2048 My Question is will there be any difference to the Burnt disk using the ISO against the BIN ? Or have i converted it wrongly ?

Thanks - I read somewhere on the forum a recommendation to create a .MDS from the DL ISO, so I thought it must parse the ISO and create a .MDS with the LB info in it. Thanks for confirming that the MDS creation utility functions as it did in DVDD. By the way, I confirmed that those discs were indeed parallel track path, thus the selection of the VOBU/ECC boundary for the LB!

On my Xp installation its Start > Help & Support > Performance and Maintenance > Using System restore to undo changes > Run the system restore wizard Then click the "Create a restore point" Bullet Name it summin like "Restore before installing blah blah blah"

Thanks for the quick reply - I realized the ambiguity in my statement and edited my post to confirm that the .MDS was created automatically when I read the disc (4 total - 3 from one set, 1 separate) to ISO image. So, it appears this was a coincidence then that I ran into my first 4 (2 if you count that 3 were from the same set) discs with PTP authoring after installing ImgBurn. On another, but related subject: If I understand it correctly, if I have an DL ISO file without a .MDS file, I should use ImgBurn's option to parse and create a .MDS file, and burn with that .MDS? The .MDS should function as if it was made along with the image in DVDD? Thanks again, fordman

The two apps are standalone, nothing gets deleted, uninstalled or overwritten. The bit you declined during the install of ImgBurn was nothing to do with the removal of DVD Decrypter, it was just to clean up your context menus so you didn't end up with 'Burn using DVD Decrypter' AND 'Burn using ImgBurn' when you right click an ISO image. Having both is pointless and as waste of space - hence why ImgBurn offers to clean it up for you. If the MDS file you have hasn't just been made by the 'Create DVD MDS File' option in the tools menu, the problem you're having with DL burns is that the images you're burning are from PTP DVDROM discs. You can't always burn such images onto an OTP disc because for OTP, Layer 0 must be bigger than (or the same size as) Layer 1. That is not true for PTP, where Layer 1 can be bigger than Layer 0. If the layerbreak position read from the MDS file is such that it cannot go on an OTP disc, the program has to attempt to move it. How well that works out is anyones guess! You should always use ImgBurn for DL burning now, it has other neat tricks that DVD Dec doesn't.

Hello, I was using DVDD 3.5.4.0 and saw ImgBurn 1.1.0.0, which I installed. I declined to uninstall DVDD when it asked, however. Does the "engine" for ImgBurn in any way affect the choice of a layer break in DVDD when I burn with DVDD and open the .MDS file which I created with DVDD? (EDIT - note that the .MDS was created when reading the disc to an ISO image - I did not use the separate option to create a .MDS file, which I realize does NOT parse ISO files to find the original LB position) I ask because, despite installing ImgBurn, I decided to continue using DVDD to burn some dual layer images I had read to my HD with DVDD. As usual I opened the .MDS file and in the LOG it showed that it was using the VOBU/ECC method of finding the optimal layer break position, instead of "copied from original image" like it always used to. So, is there a .DLL file that ImgBurn installed that overwrote what DVDD was using and is not affecting the choice of layer break position in DVDD? This happened for a total of 4 images now.....did DVDD just burn them in the dumb ISO mode and ignore the .MDS information? Thanks, Ford Man

Ok, that's cool. Just to really point it out though... look at the 'NOTE:' line in the log. The actual data within the sector has compared just fine, it's the error correction stuff that's now different. Most drives totally ignore those bytes within the sector, on the fly when you burn - unless you burn in RAW mode (which I'm not). The drive then recalculates the data and burns the correct EDC/ECC data. So if you've not changed the image since it was first made, the program you used to create it hasn't done a very good job - because you drive is correcting what it has done! (That is a little weird though as it looks like you're using Microsoft's internal ISO building util!)

i was just wondering if it is possible for you to create an exact copy of something using only imgburn and if so how?

Imgburn does it for you .You can also burn the MDS file and if one doesn't exist you can create one.Tools ---> create dvd MDS file

sorry if this is a stupid question - but is there a guide on what and how to create a layer break or does imgburn do that for you?

Try opening it in Shrink, File> Open Disc Image or something close to that, and if it does open you can create a new ISO that should work. It certainly appears that there's something funny with the ISO. The fact that Nero does work is strange, but Nero is strange at the best of times.

My first attempts of burning an image (.iso) file using a number of tools has been disasterous. I didn't save the log but noticed DVDD failed at exactly 50%. I had one "success" but the DVD would not play. I started to try IMGBurn and noticed the TOOLS/ISO/Display IFO Layer Break Info/ tool. For the problem image I get: -------------------------------- Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: not found! VTS_01 This image has not been mastered correctly for burning on to a double layer (OTP track path) disc. None of the cells meet the 'DVD-Video Specification' criteria for a potential layer break position. -------------------------------- Will I ever be able to burn this image to a DL? (I can't re-rip it and its 8+ GB and too big to shrink to a DVD+R). Is there anything that I can do? I used IMGTool Classic to create the ISO image. I got a warning that it was larger than a DVD5 and asked 'Do you still want to continue'. When creating the ISO image is there any software or procedure that is recommended?

ImgBurn has a whole load of new code to do with layerbreak stuff. DVD Decrypter was 'stupid' in this area - as such, that error message didn't even exist in it. You cannot just magically create a layerbreak within an ISO file. Files have to start at the exact sector to allow a cell to meed the criteria required for a layerbreak position. So although the burn (and verify) went ok, you may have a problem at the layer change on your standalone dvd players. Basically what I can see from your log is that the main VTS group is probably VTS_06 and within that, there are no cells in any of the PGC's that start on an LBA that's a multiple of 16.

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burntaonce will create iso files from data. It is free and a frontend for mkisofs. The gui is also simple and stylish like Imgburn.

I've searched quite a bit for an iso maker that can handle data files that are very large. For example, today it's possible to home record ones TV shows in the TS (transport stream) format. They're basically just glorified mpeg's. But the TS file for any given show is usually quite large, for a broadcast movie it can easily be over 4 gig's. While Nero can burn these to disc many individuals would prefer to let ImgBurn do the job by way of providing it with an ISO of the files. I've tried a few of the proggies listed in this forum, they're great and thank you, but seemingly none of them can handle these large files. Frequently they'll try to create the ISO but after their attempt completes I'll see that the file created is woefully undersized. So, if anyone has ever used a proggie that can do this specific function, create ISO's of TS files 4 gigabyte sized and larger, I'd be thankful if they could mention it here.

I use UltraISO. A tool specifically designed to create, edit and burn all manner of disk image files. http://www.ezbsystems.com/ Not quite true. DVD Decrypter read the sectors from a disk (not the files) and made a duplicate of the DVD in ISO format. Creating an ISO from a bunch of files and directories is not the same as reading sectors from a disk and outputting to an ISO.