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Hmmm weird that it only burns them at 4x. Try setting the speed to 10x, 12x or something (instead of 'max'). See if it burns at the full 8x when you do that.

We're lucky with our 975 chipsets, at least we get 1 real Intel IDE on the ich7r chip, the 965 (as this chap has), doesn't have any real ones, just the JMicron one! For most people I guess thats not an issue but I've always had 4 IDE optical drives in my pc (and then using just scsi or sata hdds). Going down to 2 was bad enough, I could never live with 0! I'm sure it wouldn't have killed Intel to keep 2 IDE channels Grrrrrr.

lol I found him BUMP

You can't burn a VCD to anything other than a CD. Only CD supports the 'mode' required (Mode 2 / Form 1) for the sectors. ImgBurn does not burn bin / cue setups unless the bin file is a single session / track image - which for VCD it is not. You'll have to use another tool for VCD burning, sorry.

The drivers would be on the gigabyte website - under product support for that actual motherboard. To be honest, I don't know how far this issue goes. If the drive won't accept any of my attempts at setting the write parameters, either I'm doing something silly that only this drive doesn't like or no program will be able to set them. Some programs might not care and just attempt to burn anyway - but it would be total fluke if that worked. The only way to know for sure is to try some others! If they work and the I/O they send could be captured, I could make ImgBurn work too.

That's just an I/O error lfc. Something the drive throws up when it doesn't like the media.

Ahh another 965 chipset board. As I'm sure you know, Intel removed all the PATA interfaces from the 965 chipset so you ARE in fact running from a 3rd party controller. Probably a JMicron one or something. I believe the documents do say that it doesn't support optical drives. These 3 function calls at the beginning of the 'Set Write Parameters' code tell me something isn't quite right. The first is getting the current 'write' values, the second is getting the 'default' values, the third is trying to set the unit to defaults, using the values from the second. As you can see from the 'Invalid Field in Parameter List' error, the unit isn't accepting them. That should not be possible and it would seem to me that they're not even reaching the drive. As taken from the MMC 5 specification document: So basically, I think the drivers for the controller chip are blocking these calls and just returning that error because IT think the drive doesn't support them - as would be correct for a HDD I guess! This is of course assuming you've used ImgBurn or DVD Dec to burn using this drive before - but on your previous machine (i.e. Pre Intel 965 chipset motherboard). As I mentioned earlier, I've only ever seen this command fail on old CDR/RW drives before - where they're so old they didn't really follow any MMC specs. EDIT: Oh I also assume your motherboard BIOS is up to date, along with any BIOS for the JMicron chip if that's a separate download. Check you're running the latest drivers for it too.

I was actually just talking about using the top left button - 'Record Disc'. I click that, then load the tracks (drag + drop MP3 files), then click 'Record Disc'. So long as 'track pregap' is set to 0 seconds it'll all flow smoothly, yes. No gaps, stuttering etc.

Your drive might not support bitsetting - full stop. Most Sony drives up until now have just been OEM LiteOn ones - hence the stuff on the LiteOn tab normally works. Early models only supported the 'Next Write' style of doing things - they've become much more user friendly since then - the drives now remember how you want the bitsetting stuff to be done, even after a reboot etc. For next write, it really only works well for write once media. There's something weird about how DVD+RW bitsetting works. I think the disc has to be brand new for the bitsetting stuff to actually take place. A full format of the +RW disc may work, but not just writing to it.

Ok, I was expecting you to have some mega old CDRW drive or something. It's weird that the set write parameters function would fail on a newer drive. Please get me another log, but this time, before you click the 'Write' button, press the F8 key. Then once it has errored out and given up, press F8 again. SAVE the log (File -> Save As) and attach it as a file - it'll be much bigger this time due to some additional I/O debugging code. The SCSI thing is also not always a good sign. It either means you're running the drive off a 3rd party IDE card / port on your motherboard or it means your drivers are messed up. There are only 2 makes of 3rd party cards (and chipsets) that work properly with optical drives. SiliconImage 680 and ITE8212

It's only a 'mistake' though if the MDS would be useful. If the ISO file is Having the program prompt on single layer images just started to annoy users, that's when I put the check for image size in too.

Hmm I go from mp3 -> CD Audio disc using cdrwin from www.goldenhawk.com I've never had any issues, not even when the tracks flow from one to the other without any breaks in the songs (i.e. they're all mixed into 1) You won't get a seamless MP3 data (audio) disc though unless your player implements some clever caching methods. Even mediaplayer pauses for a fraction of a second at the end of a track before loading the next one. Real CDDA discs without any track pregaps do not suffer that problem.

Can you please copy + paste everything from the log window. Thanks.

I believe 'fair use' only applies if there is no copy protection on the disc that otherwise prohibits you from making a copy. As soon as you circumvent anything, you're breaking the law. So if you can make your backup without using *ANY* special tools (i.e. you JUST use bog standard cd/dvd tools like Nero, RecordNow Max etc) then you're probably ok. Of course normal rules would then apply I guess. If you're no longer licensed to use the original disc, you must destroy all backup copies. NOTE: I am not a lawyer and the above is only a summary of my (very limited) understanding on a very complex matter.

You won't get a 1:1 'bootable' backup unless you do it sector by sector - so simply copying over the folders via explorer etc will not work.

You can't I'm afraid, it's for data only. That is of course assuming you were talking about a proper CD Audio (CDDA) disc and not just a disc containing a bunch of MP3 files.

It always does a quick erase. You're thinking about a format - which is different. A format is required on new DVD+RW media and those that haven't been properly formatted in the first place. If it doesn't say 'Formatted: Yes' in the info panel on the right, ImgBurn will perform a full format. You should only need to do this once so if you find you're doing it all the time (on the same disc), either your drive isn't formatting properly or some other tool/drive is screwing up the format.

It doesn't really matter. Closer to 50/50 ratio is preferred though and a large padding will normally give you that if there are no other obvious layer break positions.

The drive just didn't like the disc. Try another one. If it does the same again, get some different discs. Your drive is very old now, you might like to start thinking about upgrading.

Ah you must have the 965 chipset then. The lack of PATA is one of the reasons I didn't go for it! Ensure your motherboard bios is up-to-date too. They normally contain the bios code for the 3rd party controllers too - but do double check that and update it manually if it doesn't! So anyway, you might have more luck with a real sata burner on the intel sata controller rather than a pata one on the jmicron.

Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A 1-01 (SCSI) Media Information: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A 1-01 (SCSI) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,295,104 Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: MCC-004-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: MCC-004-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Results: I 20:14:06 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.7 Beta started! I 20:14:06 Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition (5.2, Build 3790 : Service Pack 1) I 20:14:06 Total Physical Memory: 3,405,120 KB - Available: 1,990,320 KB I 20:14:06 Initialising SPTI... I 20:14:06 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 20:14:11 Found 2 DVD-ROMs, 2 DVD?RWs and 4 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 20:14:25 Operation Started! I 20:14:25 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:14:25 Source File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048) I 20:14:25 Source File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes I 20:14:25 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 20:14:25 Source File File System(s): None I 20:14:25 Destination Device: [4:3:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A 1-01 (R:) (SCSI) I 20:14:25 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x) I 20:14:25 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 20:14:25 Write Mode: DVD I 20:14:25 Write Type: DAO I 20:14:25 Write Speed: MAX I 20:14:25 Link Size: Auto I 20:14:25 Test Mode: No I 20:14:25 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 20:14:25 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 20:14:25 Writing LeadIn... I 20:14:55 Writing Image... I 20:19:31 Synchronising Cache... I 20:19:32 Closing Track... I 20:19:59 Finalising Disc... I 20:20:08 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:20:08 Graph Data File: C:\IBG\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7173A_1-01_18-NOVEMBER-2006_20-14_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 20:20:08 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:20:08 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:43 I 20:20:08 Average Write Rate: 16,691 KB/s (12.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 24,996 KB/s (18.0x) I 20:20:08 Cycling Tray before Verify... I 20:20:28 Device Ready! I 20:20:28 Operation Started! I 20:20:28 Source Device: [4:3:0] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A 1-01 (R:) (SCSI) I 20:20:28 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD+R) (Disc ID: 004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x) I 20:20:28 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:20:28 Image File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048) I 20:20:28 Image File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes I 20:20:28 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 20:20:28 Image File File System(s): None I 20:20:28 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2295103) I 20:25:32 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:25:32 Graph Data File: C:\IBG\Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7173A_1-01_18-NOVEMBER-2006_20-14_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 20:25:32 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:25:32 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:03 I 20:25:32 Average Verify Rate: 15,149 KB/s (10.9x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,194 KB/s (16.0x)

LITE-ON DVDRW LH-18A1H HL03 (SCSI) Media Information: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-18A1H HL03 (SCSI) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,295,104 Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: MCC-004-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: MCC-004-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Results: I 19:55:26 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.7 Beta started! I 19:55:26 Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition (5.2, Build 3790 : Service Pack 1) I 19:55:26 Total Physical Memory: 3,405,120 KB - Available: 1,992,132 KB I 19:55:26 Initialising SPTI... I 19:55:26 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 19:55:29 Found 2 DVD-ROMs, 2 DVD?RWs and 4 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 19:55:35 Operation Started! I 19:55:35 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 19:55:35 Source File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048) I 19:55:35 Source File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes I 19:55:35 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 19:55:35 Source File File System(s): None I 19:55:35 Destination Device: [4:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW LH-18A1H HL03 (O:) (SCSI) I 19:55:35 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 19:55:35 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 19:55:35 Write Mode: DVD I 19:55:35 Write Type: DAO I 19:55:35 Write Speed: MAX I 19:55:35 Link Size: Auto I 19:55:35 Test Mode: No I 19:55:35 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 19:55:35 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 19:55:35 Writing LeadIn... I 19:56:22 Writing Image... I 20:01:19 Synchronising Cache... I 20:01:21 Closing Track... I 20:01:23 Finalising Disc... I 20:01:34 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:01:34 Graph Data File: C:\IBG\LITE-ON_DVDRW_LH-18A1H_HL03_18-NOVEMBER-2006_19-55_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 20:01:34 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:01:34 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:58 I 20:01:34 Average Write Rate: 15,507 KB/s (11.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 22,396 KB/s (16.2x) I 20:01:34 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 20:01:43 Waiting for device to become ready... I 20:01:56 Device Ready! I 20:01:56 Operation Started! I 20:01:56 Source Device: [4:0:0] LITE-ON DVDRW LH-18A1H HL03 (O:) (SCSI) I 20:01:56 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD+R) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x) I 20:01:56 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 20:01:56 Image File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048) I 20:01:56 Image File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes I 20:01:56 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 20:01:56 Image File File System(s): None I 20:01:56 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2295103) I 20:06:53 Exporting Graph Data... I 20:06:53 Graph Data File: C:\IBG\LITE-ON_DVDRW_LH-18A1H_HL03_18-NOVEMBER-2006_19-55_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 20:06:53 Export Successfully Completed! I 20:06:53 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:04:57 I 20:06:53 Average Verify Rate: 15,455 KB/s (11.2x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,559 KB/s (16.3x)

HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22L 1.00 (ATA) Media Information: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22L 1.00 (ATA) Current Profile: DVD+R Disc Information: Status: Empty Erasable: No Free Sectors: 2,295,104 Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF) Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x Physical Format Information (ADIP): Disc ID: MCC-004-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Physical Format Information (Last Recorded): Disc ID: MCC-004-00 Book Type: DVD+R Part Version: 1 Disc Size: 120mm Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified Number of Layers: 1 Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP) Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit Track Density: 0.74 um/track First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608 Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711 Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0 Results: I 18:30:59 ImgBurn Version 2.1.0.7 Beta started! I 18:30:59 Microsoft Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition (5.2, Build 3790 : Service Pack 1) I 18:30:59 Total Physical Memory: 3,405,120 KB - Available: 1,995,968 KB I 18:30:59 Initialising SPTI... I 18:30:59 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices... I 18:31:00 Found 2 DVD-ROMs, 2 DVD?RWs and 4 DVD?RW/RAMs! I 18:31:08 Operation Started! I 18:31:08 Source File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:31:08 Source File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048) I 18:31:08 Source File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes I 18:31:08 Source File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 18:31:08 Source File File System(s): None I 18:31:08 Destination Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22L 1.00 (N:) (ATA) I 18:31:08 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x) I 18:31:08 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104 I 18:31:08 Write Mode: DVD I 18:31:08 Write Type: DAO I 18:31:08 Write Speed: MAX I 18:31:08 Link Size: Auto I 18:31:08 Test Mode: No I 18:31:08 BURN-Proof: Enabled I 18:31:09 Filling Buffer... (40 MB) I 18:31:09 Writing LeadIn... I 18:31:34 Writing Image... I 18:36:00 Synchronising Cache... I 18:36:20 Closing Track... I 18:36:21 Finalising Disc... I 18:36:30 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:36:30 Graph Data File: C:\IBG\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H22L_1.00_18-NOVEMBER-2006_18-31_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 18:36:30 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:36:30 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:22 I 18:36:30 Average Write Rate: 17,321 KB/s (12.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 25,301 KB/s (18.3x) I 18:36:30 Cycling Tray before Verify... W 18:36:41 Waiting for device to become ready... I 18:37:01 Device Ready! I 18:37:01 Operation Started! I 18:37:01 Source Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H22L 1.00 (N:) (ATA) I 18:37:01 Source Media Type: DVD+R (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MCC-004-00) (Speeds: 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x, 18x) I 18:37:01 Image File: -==/\/[DISCOVERY IMAGE]\/\==- I 18:37:01 Image File Sectors: 2,295,104 (MODE1/2048) I 18:37:01 Image File Size: 4,700,372,992 bytes I 18:37:01 Image File Volume Identifier: DISCOVERY_IMAGE I 18:37:01 Image File File System(s): None I 18:37:01 Verifying Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 2295103) I 18:42:03 Exporting Graph Data... I 18:42:03 Graph Data File: C:\IBG\HL-DT-ST_DVD-RAM_GSA-H22L_1.00_18-NOVEMBER-2006_18-31_MCC-004-00_MAX.ibg I 18:42:03 Export Successfully Completed! I 18:42:03 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:05:01 I 18:42:03 Average Verify Rate: 15,249 KB/s (11.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 22,282 KB/s (16.1x)

You're probably best off just buying a new drive, they're pretty cheap now. Otherwise you'll only end up wasting loads of time on this and loads of discs in the process. Of course if you have access to another drive somewhere, just try one of your TY's in that and see if it dies too. You could also try your drive in another PC. It's up to you how much time you spend trying to diagnose the true problem!

Do you have the dvd burner on the proper north/southbridge (internal to motherboard chipset) IDE controller and not any 3rd party one that may also be on the board? All 3rd party controllers will make the drive show up as a SCSI drive. The real Intel / VIA / nVidia ones etc should not. They should show optical drives as being ATA. Unless the drive is just acting strangely because it doesn't really support that media id, it's reporting the it doesn't support the 'format' command - which I know it does. So it's either that or the ide controller drivers are blocking it because *they* don't understand it and so won't pass it through to the drive.